Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[DonaldJTrump]

I feel sorry for the Jerkops who will still get ween letters for Jesus chandler who don’t know he was transferred

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

I wonder if him reaching his 40s made him freak out in some really spergy way and broke the last straw that must have irritated some other inmates or the guards that made them decide to go through with this transfer...

Okay probably not just that fact alone, but it is interesting how through his letters he seemed to be handling himself mostly okay in there with no evident signs he was causing any harm apart from maybe one or two times towards a guard, as time went on its not like you can pick out any regression or deterioration in his mental state, as he always writes in his weird autistic style and no one picked up any warning signs in his letters.

 

[Rupin]

Do you think that there was a small hope in Chris‘s mind that the transfer was actually the Merge starting to happen?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

According to Chris, Barb wrote to him at least twice while he was in jail. Does the jail/court/hospital let next of kin (or rape victim) know where Chris was transferred? I assume Heilberg let Barb know. The only factor is if Harriet/Tom somehow influenced Barb or outright prohibited her from corresponding with Chris. If that's the case, then Chris will be really lonely and depressed. I also assume Chris wouldn't have amenities such as a radio or soda ramen?

Actually, NO. Unless you a minor, family members who do not have power of attorney are not notified of your change in status. If your *spouse* is transferred, you are assumed to have power of attorney and you will have access to the information. If your minor child is transferred you will also have this status. In Chris' case, the only person who will be given access to his medical information, including even the location of the facility that he is in, is Heilberg.

When this happens in real life with caring family members, law enforcement will sometimes break the law to let them know where they can find their family member, and hospital staff will posit "hypothetical" scenarios to explain what is happening to family members. This is all to avoid HIPAA violations. Like "If someone from this jail were transferred to a mental hospital, they might be sent to this one." or "If Chris were here, hypothetically speaking, he might be in this condition and maybe be able to contact someone after this hypothetical review date."

As far as the general public is concerned, they will be kept absolutely in the dark.

Regarding letters, the closest state hospital explicitly lists the right to send or receive letters in their patients' rights document. However, my feeling is still that you're reading into this correctly; that right probably doesn't include access to your CVRJ address book or forward address services

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Yes, Chris can send letters and make phone calls. In fact, unlike in jail, his phone calls will not cost him money. However the doctors must judge that he is in a state of mind to be free to perform these activities.

If he starts making phone calls, instead his time will be limited by hospital policy rather than cost. Letters will be limited by the number of letters he is allocated, unless he has a way to pay for them. his jail commissary account will probably not be usable in the hospital, instead he will work from an allowance. The hospital might even grant him infinite letters, depending on their policy.

I had posted some time back on a Law and Order SVU episode involving a slow in the mind committing a crime, and at the end said slow in the mind was sentenced to a mental hospital, and at the end the guy was freaking out. I wonder if Chris would act the same way? Keep in mind, Borb instilled in Chris why they had to mainstream him instead of sending him to an "institution", something that Chris has talked about in the past. After being told that for so many years, and it's now happening, I would feel that Chris is tarding out so hard right now. I also posted before that Heilberg may have discussed the possibility of this happening with Chris. But Chris, as usual, didn't register it.

The important distinction is they cannot employ civil commitment here. He is an inmate held in remand. The only reason they can send him to a mental health facility is to prepare him to be competent for legal proceedings. This can potentially last indefinitely, but the point is that this is not meant to be ongoing mental health care for Chris' benefit, nor is it a sentence. The sole purpose is to make him ready to face justice.

How is intake at mental hospitals nowadays?

My only experience is movies and tv shows where such places are staffed with surly individuals with little patience, an instinct to forcefully make a patient comply and a not-too-gentle approach to cavity searches.


I know Chris throws tantrums in order to make himself a hassle to deal with, but isn't his usual response to real stress to just shut down and curl into a ball? Or has something changed?

We have absolutely no idea what happened. The only thing we can guess is that Heilberg felt that Chris will do better in court after being sent for treatment.

Okay, this brings up another question...does the original 6-month continuance date still stand, because I thought when somebody goes to a mental facility after being considered to be incompetent to stand in their own defense, the mental facility can hold somebody as long as they think it is necessary until they are considered "competent"...i.e. there is no set date as to when that is going to be.

If you read past threads, i was starting to suspect that he had been sent to a state hospital *because* of the continuance. Six months is extremely long. At first we wondered if it was just to build up time served, but it seemed strange that the prosecution would agree to this.

Then I noticed that 6 months was the normal continuance time for someone who has been sent to a state hospital in the event that they are incompetent to stand trial. This is why I started to suspect that this is what had happened. In this case, the six month continuance is perfectly explained.

You know, from a purely medical standpoint getting arrested was the best thing that could happen to Chris. We all knew he needed help for years, decades even, but he wouldn't ever accept help. Now it's forced on him. I wonder if that makes some people who want help but aren't getting any jealous, I know I would be.

Unfortunately since deinstitutionalization took hold, the criminal justice system is the only place that many people get (inadequate) mental health care.

I wonder if this is another stalling tactic to get Chris out on "time served". Or if he really pissed off his lawyer and this is the superglue corner punishment.

Yes and no. Doubtless, if Chris comes out of this deemed competent, Heilberg will make an offer of time served. The timing is too perfect to assume otherwise. That said, Heilberg would not have done this if he didn't think that Chris needed the treatment. Only the defense attorney has the power to do this so easily, but they can't do it lightly or else their practice would be in severe jeopardy.

Any of you think Chris is in a black and white jump suit with a large metal ball attached to the ankle by a chain? You think there is a guard snoozing away on a chair with a key dangling in arms reach? Think there is a plan that Barb sends a cake with a nail file in it, or will Chris try and use a plastic spoon and dig a tunnel under the prison?

No, that is fucking retarded.

I think chances are his attorneys fought for his transfer and to make his whereabouts unknown due to his clearly unstable mental condition and high profile. With a strong online following of internet detectives and weens, he’s likely receiving more mail a day than every other prisoner there combined gets. To protect him from hurting his case, they probably requested his location only be known to those who need to know so the information was never released to the site.

Yes his attorney probably requested this. The whereabouts unknown, however, is perfectly normal due to HIPAA. Anytime they do this they are required to not disclose what happened due to privacy law. This is actually a problem when relatives are trying to figure out what the fuck happened. It's not malicious, it's just the law.

In Chris' case, they probably consider it to be a good thing though.

So, Chris was transferred to a different facility? Did he have a major tard fit because he was stuck in jail for Christmas and his birthday and didn't get any new toys, so they put him up in some secure psychiatric facility? Or maybe he was under threat from the other inmates, so they sent him to a different jail? I wonder if we will ever know.

If it was simple misbehavior, he would not be transferred. He would only be transferred if he tried to an hero, or if he was deemed incompetent to assist in his own defense at trial.

From my understanding, Chris was entering a 6 month continuance, in which is standard in the state of VA, if an inmate is incompetent to stand trial, the have to go to a state hospital for the duration of those six months, in which I assume Heilberg was planning for. Given that the state hospital has strict rules for correspondence, I expect we wouldn't hear from Chris until July 28.

This is possible. It depends on what his mental state is. In practice, he may be able to reach out to the outside world sooner.

If he "gets better" while in treatment, they will probably let him call/write to other people. In my experience this usually only takes a few days, but I've never worked with someone as damaged as Chris. Given that I suspect that he was transferred on or around his early-February hearing date, I imagine that he is doing not that well.

I can see Chris stashing away pills...

in his ass, since he has the practice.

Fortunately, many medications still work fine when taken anally.

Shitty.

Never done inpatient but if you have seen the layout, they fucking suck. The food is dogshit, they play bingo with your meds hoping something will work and don't separate dangerous from non dangerous at first.

When I've visited people who have been on holds in mental facilities, it's pretty bad. While the people I was taking responsibility for were relatively sane, the screams in the background were kind of haunting. Mental illness is a horrible thing.

I feel sorry for the Jerkops who will still get ween letters for Jesus chandler who don’t know he was transferred

They may wind up saving them for delivery when he comes back. I don't know what their policy is.

 

[Quijibo69]

Do you think that there was a small hope in Chris‘s mind that the transfer was actually the Merge starting to happen?

Or it was because the Russian thing started on his birthday.

 

[Rupin]

Chris will have an easier time at the mental facility than in jail cuz he will have a little bit more freedom there with the exception that he won’t be isolated so there will be a chance that one of the patients for whatever reason may assault him if they are having a bad day and he just happens to be the closest thing to hit.

 

[Pvt. Real G]

What these hospital people don't know about is the time tested Chandler household tard treatment solution. All they got to do is put Chris into a room full of toys. That's it. Chris will calm down and become responsive. Problem solved.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

What these hospital people don't know about is the time tested Chandler household tard treatment solution. All they got to do is put Chris into a room full of toys. That's it. Chris will calm down and become responsive. Problem solved.

Hospital toys usually don't have lego though. It's mostly large fidget devices that don't have small parts that you can remove.

PL: The worst feeling is when you have to advise mostly-sane people to stay in such facilities for legal reasons. They get really fucking bored, and a bit scarred by the screaming. Fuck, I'm scarred from the screaming by just visiting there.

 

[RSLUG30]

Yes, Chris can send letters and make phone calls. In fact, unlike in jail, his phone calls will not cost him money. However the doctors must judge that he is in a state of mind to be free to perform these activities.

looks like we're seeing another christian dark age lads, because there's no way in hell that they'll find him sane enough for outside communications.
and if they do he'll likely be drugged up to high heaven, at which point it won't even feel like chris anymore.

 

[Trigger Me Timbers]

So from reading everyone's takes I have these two scenarios in my mind...

1) The boring one; The prison transferred Chris to a hospital or min-sec facility because he's going to be there for at least 6 months and the PC unit don't want to house inmates for many months, ideally inmates should only spend a few months in PC since it needs to be free for other inmates if they get caught up in gang shit, gay shit or accused of being a snitch. So Chris just needed to find a more stable place.

2) The exciting one; Chris either Tarded out or brokedown like a child on news of his +6 months extension and has become unbearable for the prison staff and they had to take him to a tard hospital or special prison for tards.

If it is a hospital then the letters will dry up. Prisons only screen letters for crimes and gang shit, hospitals on the other hand will judge if letters are "upsetting" to the patient and will not allow shit that encourages his delusions or will get him "worked up".

 

[Strictly Confidential]

From the thoughts of being freerange sonichu to now becoming zombie zonichu. Unless Chris is getting a free dick snip to get into womans prison, I can only presume like you all he is in the nut house, among good company of course.

they had to take him to a tard hospital or special prison for tards

How many other jesuschus will he meet in the tard den? Months is too long to wait, this is way better than any fucking letters.

 

[Vi0l3t]

My bets on a mental hospital or halfway house situation maybe?


Also
Gender: male

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Hospital toys usually don't have lego though. It's mostly large fidget devices that don't have small parts that you can remove.

PL: The worst feeling is when you have to advise mostly-sane people to stay in such facilities for legal reasons. They get really fucking bored, and a bit scarred by the screaming. Fuck, I'm scarred from the screaming by just visiting there.

I wonder they have stuff like crayons or maybe pastels? Chris likes to draw with markers but they might not let the patients have them because they'll just let them dry out with no caps on so they're a waste of money, while colored pencils could be used as weapons.
I think even Chris would get bored really fast if it was just stuff like those beads on rails from dentists' offices.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

So from reading everyone's takes I have these two scenarios in my mind...

1) The boring one; The prison transferred Chris to a hospital or min-sec facility because he's going to be there for at least 6 months and the PC unit don't want to house inmates for many months, ideally inmates should only spend a few months in PC since it needs to be free for other inmates if they get caught up in gang shit, gay shit or accused of being a snitch. So Chris just needed to find a more stable place.

2) The exciting one; Chris either Tarded out or brokedown like a child on news of his +6 months extension and has become unbearable for the prison staff and they had to take him to a tard hospital or special prison for tards.

If it is a hospital then the letters will dry up. Prisons only screen letters for crimes and gang shit, hospitals on the other hand will judge if letters are "upsetting" to the patient and will not allow shit that encourages his delusions or will get him "worked up".

You have it backwards.

The more likely explanation is that he was sent for treatment in a hospital, and the six month extension was for this purpose.

This would make sense with the six month extension being typical for serious sex crimes, although the list that enforces the six month limit is not one that I believe Chris to be charged with, under § 19.2-169.3

Either that or Chris has picked up more serious charges in the process. I would not jump to that conclusion however, as he has had ample time to receive a felony indictment. More likely they are working with six months as a typical period for his treatment.

My bets on a mental hospital or halfway house situation maybe?

He can't be sent to a halfway house if he hasn't been convicted of anything. He is probably in a mental hospital.

EDIT: Though given the opaqueness of J&DR, he could have been convicted and the transfer was part of his sentence, and the July hearing is a review hearing to judge his performance. I very much doubt this though. If he were in a halfway house, he would absolutely be free to send letters and make phone calls, and we have heard neither.

 

[JFKdestroyer]

Can't wait until Chris gets out and talks about his "hot, young nurse"

 

[redcent]

How is intake at mental hospitals nowadays?

My only experience is movies and tv shows where such places are staffed with surly individuals with little patience, an instinct to forcefully make a patient comply and a not-too-gentle approach to cavity searches.


I know Chris throws tantrums in order to make himself a hassle to deal with, but isn't his usual response to real stress to just shut down and curl into a ball? Or has something changed?

I know... Someone who went into one years ago. It was likely different to Chris's situation in that a. It was voluntary b. Not to do with anything criminal and c. In another country.

No cavity searches. There was a patient chucking a wobbly who got thrown into a room covered with mats. Most people both staff and patients didn't give a shit though. That said it's nothing like the movies.

Might be different for Chris he's being housed both from a jail and he'd be involuntary committed. Plus, 'murica

 

[Spastic Cologne]

but they all failed because no one can breach Chris's layers and layers of schizophrenic delusion that prevent him from seeing reality around him.

And that folks is what Thorazine/Chlorpromazines for.

I wonder if Barb knows?

I wonder if Barb knows what year it is...

 

[Turbocuck]

I still don't take this as a sign that Chris actually believes his delusions. I think what prevents him from aiding in his defense is that he refuses to stop engaging with his fantasy world and has withdrawn from real life, not that he's actually experiencing delusions or hallucinations like a schizophrenic.

I wonder if antipsychotics will do anything to help him, given that these 'delusions' are shit he's coming up with willingly. I guess at a minimum they will probably make him more suggestible and willing to do as he's told.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

I still don't take this as a sign that Chris actually believes his delusions. I think what prevents him from aiding in his defense is that he refuses to stop engaging with his fantasy world and has withdrawn from real life, not that he's actually experiencing delusions or hallucinations like a schizophrenic.

I wonder if antipsychotics will do anything to help him, given that these 'delusions' are shit he's coming up with willingly. I guess at a minimum they will probably make him more suggestible and willing to do as he's told.

I doubt the exhausted and overworked staff in a public loony bin are making a lot of effort to differentiate whether their fat tranny autistic momrapist patient's delusions and rants stem from legitimate schizophrenia or from just making shit up.

 

[A-№1]

Okay sounds like my hypothesis is correct. I didn't think it would happen, but the 6 month continuance is standard for someone transferred to a mental hospital for being incompetent to assist in their defense.

As I mentioned in another thread, it's also easier to do placement interviews / evaluations in a hospital than a jail (though, personally, I'd rather be in the jail - psych wards are a slice of hell).

As to assisting with his defense, what's to defend? The prosecutor wobbled him down to a misdemeanor, and his next hearing will basically be at time served. Chris' best option is to agree to that kindness, even if Chris is too stupid to see it.

He might have acted out at the last hearing sufficient to get him ordered for treatment, but then they would have transferred him immediately after the hearing. I can't see them doing that and then screwing around for almost a month before updating his custody status. They have to be more up to date with their records than that.

I find the timing suspicious if he was transferred on the last day of February to be at the hospital on the first day of March. That says he was transferred on the hospital's schedule, not his own.

As an aside, it's funny how the jail garb is basically a monochrome version of the horizontal stripes Chris (and many other autists) are attracted to for themselves.