Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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They have to. When it becomes a medical issue, they are bound by HIPAA to not share that information. Not that they always dislike that requirement. Sometimes a family member will bail someone out and then they get sent to a mental facility for a temporary hold, and the police refuse to tell the family member anything other than that the person was "released".
PL but I have an extremely mentally unwell family member who was taken in for a 72 hour hold (5150'd in California), was not cleared for release after 72 hours and I had to do hours of research just to find out what facility he might be held in and the staff wouldn't even confirm to his own mother that he was there. They just dumped him on the streets when his time was up and thankfully he was well enough by then to contact his mother on his own.

We are going to have radio silence for at least 6 months but it's possible that we might never get an update again.
 
I genuinely want to see what happens if/when Chris comes out of the psychosis he's been in for the last ten years.
Why would drugs change anything? Chris is not schizophrenic. He isn't having hallucinations, He's just really stupid and has idiotic beliefs. As far as I know there are no drugs that can make you change your beliefs.

They probably are going to give him schizo drugs because they assume he is hallucinating, since they would assume nobody could believe the things Chris believes otherwise. When they don't work, they'll be puzzled as to why until they realize there were never hallucinations, and he really is stupid enough to believe he's married to hedgehog poke-mans and stuff like that.
 
Why would drugs change anything? Chris is not schizophrenic. He isn't having hallucinations, He's just really stupid and has idiotic beliefs. As far as I know there are no drugs that can make you change your beliefs.

They probably are going to give him schizo drugs because they assume he is hallucinating, since they would assume nobody could believe the things Chris believes otherwise. When they don't work, they'll be puzzled as to why until they realize there were never hallucinations, and he really is stupid enough to believe he's married to hedgehog poke-mans and stuff like that.
And then the drugs make Chris worse....
 
Speaking of the photo, he looks awfully happy, with that same oblivious unknowing grin he seems to wear anytime what's happening to him is beyond his comprehension.
I wonder if he understood he wasn't being transferred out of jail?
He probably understood he was being transferred out of his cramped little space but probably also assumed that where he was going would be better with all the colouring pencils he could wish for and more cheap knock off vidya games to buy.
If he is where we assume he is now he was in for a nasty shock when he finds out that his diet & habits are going to be monitored more frequently with less vidya games.

I wonder if he'll still have that goofy smile when he gets out
 
And then the drugs make Chris worse....
(side effects: ) weight gain, heart issues, easily agitated

schizophrenia medication would NOT be a good idea for chris. he may be deranged but i don't think he meets the diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia. though knowing doctor's affinity for fixing problems with extraneous medication they'll likely start him off with some antidepressants and go from there
 
Sure it does.

It explains why there's been radio silence for the last month.

Keep mind the next part is just pure speculation:

I just looked up why an inmate would need to transfer in the state of Virginia and the first search is behavior that the inmate cannot willingly or refuses to change to adapt to the prison system and get along with his fellow inmates etc etc.

Now what facility Chris has been transferred to and why we don't know, but this is definitely a sign things might not be going well for Chris.

The continence probably hit Chris hard. Through blissful ignorance he was probably convinced that he'd be out by now, and probably had it in his mind that the court hearing in early February was going to be the end of it.

Did he kick up a huge fit? Probably. Also wouldn't surprise me if they've temporarily restricted the number of letters he's been allowed to send.
 
If the basis of the transfer to a state hospital was to make Chris 'competent', I wonder if the doctors will use ethical methods to get rid of sonichu/merge/pony/Jesus thoughts? Chris can't go for seconds without talking about da merge in casual conversation. If this is what makes Chris a normal, productive member of society, then Borb was wrong the whole time.
 
Is it possible that Chris got so deep in his fantasy that he was hurting himself? Ie he was possessed by Sonichu and was punching the walls trying to break into Cwcvill?
He took a knife and cut up his gooch.

He should have been locked up in a padded cell back then.

So yeah, he's that deep in his fantasy, and he's never really come up from there.
 
If he was sent to the hospital due to incompetency to assist in his own defense, it was due to an evaluation by a forensic psychologist, not a judge, although they would be involved in requesting that evaluation. The evaluation would detail specific reasons with examples of the defendant’s inability to understand their situation as it relates to their defense, so it’s not just a matter or reaching an annoying enough sperg level
True and fair point. Psychologists are trained and have seen a lot of shit even stranger and more annoying than Chris. But you can only sit him down in front of a shrink who'll listen to "y'all are making a big mistake! The timeline is danger MLP generation 5 needs to be cancelled NOW NOW NOW!" Before it can't written off as a coping mechanism anymore.
Chris is being mobilized for the war effort, they are going to have her single handedly defeat Putin
The army stopped loading retards with grenades and made them run into the line of fire after nam.

Chris will be chafing at the bit to do what he wants but being prevented from pop culture consumption
Ironically if he has been institutionalized there's a better chance he'll be able to watch tv again. If he's been sent to a fairly lenient facility and behaves himself, they might grant him some time in the tv room.

Not to mention cartoons and G rated entertainment tends to be the only thing places like that get to watch. Material too violent or questionable is banned cause it could set the patients off.
 
Jails aren't intended to house people long-term; That's what prisons are for. Jails are SUPPOSED to house you for a few weeks/months, til they can get you into court for sentencing, then off to prison. That said, the system is a mess, and it's not uncommon for people to be held in jail for a year or more. But in general, they'll find a reason to send you into prison if they can, to free up the jail cell- And getting notification of a long continuance is exactly the kind of excuse they'll typically use to do that.

From what I've seen it usually goes the *other* direction, where overcrowded prisons transfer some of their lower-level offenders to jails that have free space.

Inmates held in remand normally stay in jail. Prisons are for people convicted of felonies. While some states may creatively use their facilities to house people where they have space, it is normal for someone waiting in trial to stay in jail, even if they've been there for years.

Jails aren't *meant* to hold people for a long time, but they can and do sometimes. Usually there is a section of the jail where they contain the people who are waiting for trial for violent felonies.

Part of this is that the jail is meant to hold people close to where their court proceedings are taking place, near where their attorney is located, etc. Jails have provisions for getting inmates in and out of the facility quickly so they can go to court for the day, etc. That's why jails are usually run by the county and located nearby. Greene County is tiny so they've opted to pitch in for a larger facility that they can share in Orange County, with only a tiny holding facility for the Sheriff and the court, but CVRJ is still a relatively short drive away.

To get to the psych ward, you generally need to be either a danger to yourself or others or so batshit crazy you are incapable of even basic functioning. Everyone there is fairly crazy, or got crazy enough to need to go to the psych ward to be stabilized.

Normally, yes. Being sent to a hospital while waiting for trial is not unusual at all though, and the bar for being sent for treatment is far lower. They need to have the person stable for the court, so there's a lot of incentive to do so and fewer protections since the individual already has their liberties curtailed.

The defense attorney is tasked with making sure that the treatment is for good cause and not as a means of abuse. Usually, unless it's for dangerous behavior, it's the defense attorney that requests the treatment.

As far as I'm concerned, the great radio silence saga started on the day of the hearing, and in this 25 day block, we have the hearing, Valentine's Day, Christian Love Day, (potentially) Chris going catatonic, (potentially) Chris going psychotic, someone initiating the transfer, the transfer itself, and the transfer being posted.
Only question is where all of these events took place. As has been mentioned, the system could have been backlogged for months, and maybe they've been trying to get Chris into a hospital since, say, he got blocked from using the jail's basketball court, or any other number of things, but I'm putting my money on a full-fledged tard-out.

My best guess is that Chris' status changed either at or shortly before the hearing. The transfer notice on VINE may have been delayed, or he may have actually remained at CVRJ during this time but transferred to medical, and it just took them a long time to get him a spot at the hospital.

It could have been a tard-out, but it could also be a deliberate tactic by Heilberg to get Chris to the full year anniversary. Chris obviously needs psychiatric care anyway, and this way they get a nice six month continuance that ends right when a good plea deal could be made.

You know looking at the two I think it's the same picture as the one 7 months ago.

Yup that's his intake picture at CVRJ. We got that one and his first one at Henrico County Jail a couple of days before that.

Why would drugs change anything? Chris is not schizophrenic. He isn't having hallucinations, He's just really stupid and has idiotic beliefs. As far as I know there are no drugs that can make you change your beliefs.

They probably are going to give him schizo drugs because they assume he is hallucinating, since they would assume nobody could believe the things Chris believes otherwise. When they don't work, they'll be puzzled as to why until they realize there were never hallucinations, and he really is stupid enough to believe he's married to hedgehog poke-mans and stuff like that.

They're probably going to try a variety of things and see what helps and what doesn't. They might have no idea what the fuck to do with him, but Chris is going to have to learn to recant his delusions. I'd say that he'd just pretend to have dropped them, except Chris is terrible at hiding what he's thinking. In the past, he's gone to therapy specifically to stop some of his actions that got him in trouble (trespassing, assault), in this case his grip on reality would be the primary issue since that is what is needed for him to understand what he needs to do in court.

i.e. the core problem is the "soul bonding" shit since that's directly related to his crime.

The continence probably hit Chris hard.

Chris has always had problems with continence.
 
Oh boy, now he can leave his unmovable stench in a hospital now, lucky them. Seriously though, is this because he had a autsitic fit or is moving around holding areas a regular process due to law and jail fullness complications? I suspect Chris has been on (somewhat) good behaviour so I don’t think it’s because he acted out? What do people here reckon is the reason?
His birthday passing plus being told it'll be six months when he said he'd be out in a week must have made him go ape shit in a tard rage fit. Nothing sets him off like being told one thing that contradicts what he wants. Ex

Heilburg: No Chris you can't leave, you're going back to jail for six months

Chris but I said I need to be home for mah birthday and as Jesus enauelle sonichu cpu goddess blue heart what I say goes!

Heilburg: No Chris six months, you have no authority or say on what happens and you should be grateful I got you potential time served

Chris: But I said! Ahhh raarre!


And cue the incomprehensible tard babbling and swinging his arms around trying to "break the fourth wall."
 
The army stopped loading retards with grenades and made them run into the line of fire after nam.

Yeah, McNamara's Folly did not exactly turn out well. The tards caused more damage to our bases and morale than they did to the enemy.

Ironically if he has been institutionalized there's a better chance he'll be able to watch tv again. If he's been sent to a fairly lenient facility and behaves himself, they might grant him some time in the tv room.

Not to mention cartoons and G rated entertainment tends to be the only thing places like that get to watch. Material too violent or questionable is banned cause it could set the patients off.

Yup. He probably now has access to cartoons again.

EDIT: Unless they recognize that cartoons are part of his delusions and deem it part of the problem, in which case he may be banned from them.
 
What are the chances of us finding out where he's been transferred to? Will it remain private or will the weens work their magic?

More or less nil unless there is a ween working in the system with access to the database, or if/when Chris is allowed to write letters or make phone calls to update people about where he is.

HIPAA protections are taken fairly seriously.

There are not that many facilities he could have gone to, though, so even though there's no way to confirm, you could make an educated guess. If you contact that facility they will not tell you anything (unless they are convinced you are a concerned relative, in which case they still won't tell you anything but might drop hints out of compassion).
 
Ironically if he has been institutionalized there's a better chance he'll be able to watch tv again. If he's been sent to a fairly lenient facility and behaves himself, they might grant him some time in the tv room.

Not to mention cartoons and G rated entertainment tends to be the only thing places like that get to watch. Material too violent or questionable is banned cause it could set the patients off.
The only problem there is the way Chris basically creates his own headspace fusion of everything he likes within C-137 and he gets extremely upset if anything comes along to change what he prefers. IIRC he was literally punching holes in the walls over his anger with the upcoming iteration of MLP replacing Friendship is Magic.

What I feel is going to happen is Chris is just going to latch onto whatever may be on television, to which he'll find yet another way to declare himself god in completely fictional context, and he'll fall right back into his self-insert escapist delusions where he's anything but the fat idiot he's been since the high school days.

More or less nil unless there is a ween working in the system with access to the database, or if/when Chris is allowed to write letters or make phone calls to update people about where he is.

HIPAA protections are taken fairly seriously.

There are not that many facilities he could have gone to, though, so even though there's no way to confirm, you could make an educated guess. If you contact that facility they will not tell you anything (unless they are convinced you are a concerned relative, in which case they still won't tell you anything but might drop hints out of compassion).
While it deprives us of the lolcow milk, Chris in effective isolation from the outside world is something he's needed for a long, looooooong time. Now none of the enablers can get to him, nobody will entertain his delusions (unless it's to absolutely force him into doing shit, sadly).
 
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