Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Hogar Grupal]

Okay sounds like my hypothesis is correct. I didn't think it would happen, but the 6 month continuance is standard for someone transferred to a mental hospital for being incompetent to assist in their defense.

We're not going to be hearing from Chris for six months.

EDIT: Five months since it's been a month since the last hearing, which is when he was probably transferred.

Looks like the days of using the autism out of jail card has been revoked.

 

[Skitterways]

Thinking on it though, if he has enough "fans" harassing them at the court house and in a way the mail being sent that bolster his beliefs could hinder him in trial. Could it be possible it became an issue and they privatized the transfer to stop this?

That's an really interesting possibility. I just figured he went to a acute care psych facility that wasn't run by the state of Virginia. If you're incarcerated and go to a privately owned medical facility, there usually is no incarcerated unit. But the state has to provide a guard to babysit you 24/7 while you are in said medical facility. If it was a state facility that wouldn't always be the case.

Wait, I meant a privately owned medical facility like a regular hospital. Then a guard from whatever facility has to babysit that patient. If it's a psych facility, private or state operated, so long as there are every 5 to 15 minute observation rounds from staff, no guard is needed. Even if a patient is on continuous observation (padded room with lots of windows) they are monitored by hospital staff.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I'm also very certain Heilberg explained this to Chris, in which that info just flew by his head. I assume when the guards told Chris about the transfer, he couldn't fathom it, and reverted into hedgehog defense mode. Spending your birthday in jail is rough, but spending the remainder of your sentence in a psych ward with more rules has to be devastating to Chris.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

That's an really interesting possibility. I just figured he went to a acute care psych facility that wasn't run by the state of Virginia. If you're incarcerated and go to a privately owned medical facility, there usually is no incarcerated unit. But the state has to provide a guard to babysit you 24/7 while you are in said facility. If it was a state facility that wouldn't be the case.

He's probably in a state hospital. When someone is declared incompetent to stand trial, that is where they normally go. State hospitals don't have many civil commitment cases anymore but they still exist for this purpose, as well as for short-term holds (which is what they do mostly these days).

 

[FamicomGorby]

Okay sounds like my hypothesis is correct. I didn't think it would happen, but the 6 month continuance is standard for someone transferred to a mental hospital for being incompetent to assist in their defense.

We're not going to be hearing from Chris for six months.

EDIT: Five months since it's been a month since the last hearing, which is when he was probably transferred.

Well at least the doctor who gets assigned Chris is gonna only have to hear about Sonichu for a few days before the drugs they put him on kick in.

I don't think it will make too much of a difference in the long run, even if this is the help that Chris needs, once he gets out there's probably gonna be some ween that drags him back into his delusions.

I really don't want to say this but it's possible Chris got transferred because he was going to off himself.

He's confined away from the general pop, so unless he got violent with the guards (probably not likely cuz they're packing more than just pepper spray) he may have had a really bad mental breakdown after finding out he'd be spending another 6 months in prison.

Just... Let's probably not be looking for him anytime soon to send a letter to anyone.

I guess it's possible but I also think Chris is still too narcistic to ever attempt suicide. Unless his Jesus larp has started evolving and he thinks he needs to sacrifice himself to make the dimensional merge come to fruition or something.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Will Chris get medicated to the extreme?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Will Chris get medicated to the extreme?

If it's for suicide (which is probably not the case) it will be short term. Like 2 weeks. Since the continuance was for 6 months, it's probably for not being competent to stand trial, which means they will be medicating him solely to make him capable to assist in his own defense.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

If it's for suicide (which is probably not the case) it will be short term. Like 2 weeks. Since the continuance was for 6 months, it's probably for not being competent to stand trial, which means they will be medicating him solely to make him capable to assist in his own defense.

Interesting. does that mean Chris will have the right/access to receive and send mail, or is it prohibited for state hospital patients?

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

Here is a relevant article discussing increases in misdemeanor defendants being found unable to assist their own defense. Not tons of relevant substance, but it seems like a good place to start

Misdemeanor offenders are flooding Virginia's state mental hospitals for competency restoration - Virginia Mercury

More and more people in Virginia are being deemed mentally unfit to stand trial, crowding already-struggling state mental hospitals with patients who, in many cases, have only been charged with minor crimes like trespassing or disorderly conduct. But the lengthy process of restoring them to...

www.virginiamercury.com

also this summary from the state of Virginia

https://dbhds.virginia.gov/assets/document-library/archive/library/forensics/ofo-legal%20training%20module%203.pdf

Edit: The one thing that really stuck out to me in the slide deck is that inpatient restoration to competency is reserved for when outpatient methods fail or are unlikely to be effective. They've likely already tried a good bit and failed. Further, although there's really no hope of it ever seeing the light of day, the competency report citing "specific examples" of Chris's inability to assist in his own defense seems like a new holy grail for this site

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

So Chris has likely ended up "committed and forced to take meds that will make him into a zombie?"

Not only is it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but Bob's rolling in his grave... Well, even more.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Interesting. does that mean Chris will have the right/access to receive and send mail, or is it prohibited for state hospital patients?

Patients are allowed to receive and send mail at state hospitals, but only when they are stable. There would be a period where they are unable to respond. In addition, Chris may not have his book of contacts with him.

Staff are not allowed to confirm or deny that a patient is there or how to contact them due to HIPAA rules, until the patient is deemed able to decide to clear such communications.

Yet another PL but I've had long conversations with nurses about this.

EDIT: Also they are not allowed to tell the public *how* to contact the person. It is up to the person to reach out and contact someone to get information out about how to contact them.

 

[A Grey Cat]

So it's finally happened, if we can get confirmation that he's been transferred to the state mental hospital then the long awaited nut house saga begins.

 

[Stupidface]

Patients are allowed to receive and send mail at state hospitals, but only when they are stable. There would be a period where they are unable to respond. In addition, Chris may not have his book of contacts with him.

Waiting for Kengle to turn into a dumbass tard gatekeeper soon because they've corresponded so much I'd be surprised if Chris didn't remember the address by heart and immediately write him when able. Not sure how well he'd memorize other addresses at this point, but they have been his main source of entertainment for so long now..

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Waiting for Kengle to turn into a dumbass tard gatekeeper soon because they've corresponded so much I'd be surprised if Chris didn't remember the address by heart and immediately write him when able. Not sure how well he'd memorize other addresses at this point, but they have been his main source of entertainment for so long now..

I suspect that the transfer notice from VINE was badly delayed, and in fact Chris was in medical care around the beginning of February. It would explain the lack of letters and the six month continuance. I imagine he was not deemed rational enough to communicate with others during this period.

Either he is in a state hospital or a community facility. If he is in a community facility he would require a sheriff's deputy to monitor him, so he is probably in a state hospital. Unfortunately if you contact the hospitals they will refuse to give you information unless you are Chris' attorney. If you are family/relatives then they may, on their own discretion, give subtle hints about Chris' status, vague enough to avoid breaking the law, but they will not do that for weens/Christorians.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I suspect that the transfer notice from VINE was badly delayed, and in fact Chris was in medical care around the beginning of February. It would explain the lack of letters and the six month continuance. I imagine he was not deemed rational enough to communicate with others during this period.

Either he is in a state hospital or a community facility. If he is in a community facility he would require a sheriff's deputy to monitor him, so he is probably in a state hospital. Unfortunately if you contact the hospitals they will refuse to give you information unless you are Chris' attorney. If you are family/relatives then they may, on their own discretion, give subtle hints about Chris' status, vague enough to avoid breaking the law, but they will not do that for weens/Christorians.

Damn it feels like Virginia did everything in their power to make it so that nobody can get near Chris or find out what's going on with him.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Damn it feels like Virginia did everything in their power to make it so that nobody can get near Chris or find out what's going on with him.

They have to. When it becomes a medical issue, they are bound by HIPAA to not share that information. Not that they always dislike that requirement. Sometimes a family member will bail someone out and then they get sent to a mental facility for a temporary hold, and the police refuse to tell the family member anything other than that the person was "released".

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I suspect that the transfer notice from VINE was badly delayed, and in fact Chris was in medical care around the beginning of February. It would explain the lack of letters and the six month continuance. I imagine he was not deemed rational enough to communicate with others during this period.

Either he is in a state hospital or a community facility. If he is in a community facility he would require a sheriff's deputy to monitor him, so he is probably in a state hospital. Unfortunately if you contact the hospitals they will refuse to give you information unless you are Chris' attorney. If you are family/relatives then they may, on their own discretion, give subtle hints about Chris' status, vague enough to avoid breaking the law, but they will not do that for weens/Christorians.

According to Chris, Barb wrote to him at least twice while he was in jail. Does the jail/court/hospital let next of kin (or rape victim) know where Chris was transferred? I assume Heilberg let Barb know. The only factor is if Harriet/Tom somehow influenced Barb or outright prohibited her from corresponding with Chris. If that's the case, then Chris will be really lonely and depressed. I also assume Chris wouldn't have amenities such as a radio or soda ramen?

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

I suspect that the transfer notice from VINE was badly delayed, and in fact Chris was in medical care around the beginning of February. It would explain the lack of letters and the six month continuance. I imagine he was not deemed rational enough to communicate with others during this period.

Either he is in a state hospital or a community facility. If he is in a community facility he would require a sheriff's deputy to monitor him, so he is probably in a state hospital. Unfortunately if you contact the hospitals they will refuse to give you information unless you are Chris' attorney. If you are family/relatives then they may, on their own discretion, give subtle hints about Chris' status, vague enough to avoid breaking the law, but they will not do that for weens/Christorians.

Regarding letters, the closest state hospital explicitly lists the right to send or receive letters in their patients' rights document. However, my feeling is still that you're reading into this correctly; that right probably doesn't include access to your CVRJ address book or forward address services

Patient Rights | Central State Hospital - We value H.O.P.E.

Statement of our web policies including accessibility, cookies and plugins, among others. Please review fully before navigating the site if you have questions.

csh.dbhds.virginia.gov

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Maybe Chris got some serious medical thing from something fat-related, like a heart attack?

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I had posted some time back on a Law and Order SVU episode involving a slow in the mind committing a crime, and at the end said slow in the mind was sentenced to a mental hospital, and at the end the guy was freaking out. I wonder if Chris would act the same way? Keep in mind, Borb instilled in Chris why they had to mainstream him instead of sending him to an "institution", something that Chris has talked about in the past. After being told that for so many years, and it's now happening, I would feel that Chris is tarding out so hard right now. I also posted before that Heilberg may have discussed the possibility of this happening with Chris. But Chris, as usual, didn't register it.