Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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More or less nil unless there is a ween working in the system with access to the database, or if/when Chris is allowed to write letters or make phone calls to update people about where he is.

HIPAA protections are taken fairly seriously.

There are not that many facilities he could have gone to, though, so even though there's no way to confirm, you could make an educated guess. If you contact that facility they will not tell you anything (unless they are convinced you are a concerned relative, in which case they still won't tell you anything but might drop hints out of compassion).
I can't reply to your other posting but how does Heilberg get Chris transferred? Does he have to use Chris's evaluations and have to convince the court, or can he just recommend it and the court complies? Also, can he say, pick a six month window, and that's done, or is there the possibility of Chris being held at a hospital longer than at a jail?

Also, if Chris met with his attorney, and wouldn't shutup about all his made up nonsense, and completely refuses to assist in his defense outside of sperging on about Jesus this and that, and Heilberg says Chris can't assist in his own defense to get Chris out of his hair and also get him into treatment?

I wholly believe that Chris absolutely lost it in one way or another but I have a strong belief Heilberg was simply getting sick of dealing with him.
 
More or less nil unless there is a ween working in the system with access to the database, or if/when Chris is allowed to write letters or make phone calls to update people about where he is.

HIPAA protections are taken fairly seriously.

There are not that many facilities he could have gone to, though, so even though there's no way to confirm, you could make an educated guess. If you contact that facility they will not tell you anything (unless they are convinced you are a concerned relative, in which case they still won't tell you anything but might drop hints out of compassion).

I feel like with the infamy of Chris they might be holding daily/weekly audits for the time being. It's common when incidents happen people look at patients files when they aren't supposed too.
 
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Uhh yeah, no shit.
 
Why would drugs change anything? Chris is not schizophrenic. He isn't having hallucinations, He's just really stupid and has idiotic beliefs. As far as I know there are no drugs that can make you change your beliefs.

They probably are going to give him schizo drugs because they assume he is hallucinating, since they would assume nobody could believe the things Chris believes otherwise. When they don't work, they'll be puzzled as to why until they realize there were never hallucinations, and he really is stupid enough to believe he's married to hedgehog poke-mans and stuff like that.

Thorazine would at least make him shut up, and maybe that is all anyone wants at this point.
 
We all thought the holidays would make Chris crack a little but he handled that well.

Now Christian Love Day however, that shit broke Chris and he could not handle being locked up when that day was fast approaching. Im sure he sperged out harder than usual and action had to be taken. In one of the last letters he seemed unhinged and was scolded previously for trying to cross dimensions so its a pretty real possibility that Chris couldnt cope on his favorite holiday of the year.
 
HEILBERG: My client is out of his mind.
CHRIS: Her!
JUDGE: Have a psychiatrist take a look at him.
CHRIS: Her!
DOCTOR: This guy is nuttier than squirrel shit.
CHRIS: Girl!
JUDGE: Send this man to the funny farm.
CHRIS: Woman!
NURSE RATCHET: Time for your quaalude suppository, boy.
CHRIS: Girl!

Thus begins the Sonichu Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest saga.
 
I can't reply to your other posting but how does Heilberg get Chris transferred? Does he have to use Chris's evaluations and have to convince the court, or can he just recommend it and the court complies?

The court has to approve it (other than for the normal short emergency holds for suicidal acts, etc. that all people are subject to). Heilberg had to present evidence (certainly including the psych eval) and the court had to okay it.

Alternatively another party (say, the prosecutor) could have requested it, but it would be much harder to do without Heilberg at least agreeing to it.

Also, can he say, pick a six month window, and that's done, or is there the possibility of Chris being held at a hospital longer than at a jail?

His stay can be extended if deemed necessary, yes. Some people spend years like that. For most crimes the review doesn't have to be six months -- they're not gonna do that for a shoplifter -- but for more serious crimes six months is the standard. For very serious crimes like murder and rape, they have a procedure built around six month windows. I don't think Chris is charged with rape, but since six months is the norm that's naturally what they would go with.

After the period is over, they'll do a review to decide if he's ready to proceed in court, if he is still incompetent but restorable (so he goes back to the hospital for another six months), or if he is unrestorable and needs civil commitment. Civil commitment is difficult, so that probably won't happen, although it might be the best outcome possible for Chris.

I think the timing of his review is not an accident, though. This gives them a good timing for a plea deal, and as @A-№1 pointed out, it's easier to find placement for the future post-conviction Chris when he's in the hospital.

Most likely we'll see Chris out in early August, unless he's so uncooperative that they're forced to give him another six months in the hospital, or they throw the book at him as a last ditch way to keep him contained. The easy way to find out is to call on July 28th to find out how long until the next court date. If it's six months later, Chris is still in the hospital. If it's a few days later, then Chris is probably getting out then, but it could go the other way and he could get an indictment shortly after.

Also, if Chris met with his attorney, and wouldn't shutup about all his made up nonsense, and completely refuses to assist in his defense outside of sperging on about Jesus this and that, and Heilberg says Chris can't assist in his own defense to get Chris out of his hair and also get him into treatment?

I wholly believe that Chris absolutely lost it in one way or another but I have a strong belief Heilberg was simply getting sick of dealing with him.

Heilberg is a professional. He is not just trying to "get rid" of Chris. If a defendant is too mentally ill for court, then this is the right action. It improves Chris' situation, and still allows him to build up time served.

On a side note who do you consider the Hispanic Chris Chan?

Carlos Chantor.
 
Also, if Chris met with his attorney, and wouldn't shutup about all his made up nonsense, and completely refuses to assist in his defense outside of sperging on about Jesus this and that, and Heilberg says Chris can't assist in his own defense to get Chris out of his hair and also get him into treatment?

I wholly believe that Chris absolutely lost it in one way or another but I have a strong belief Heilberg was simply getting sick of dealing with him.
Defense attorneys deal with people worse than Chris on a daily basis. Plus getting Chris off on an insanity defense is going to give Heilberg some bragging rights.
 
Defense attorneys deal with people worse than Chris on a daily basis. Plus getting Chris off on an insanity defense is going to give Heilberg some bragging rights.

It is very doubtful that this will happen, and we've been over this a lot. The bar for NGRI is very high. Yeah, Chris is crazy, but for NGRI they'd have to prove that he had no capacity to understand that he was committing a crime. While it's likely they will push that Chris has some form of *diminished* capacity, it's a tall order to prove that he did not have the capacity whatsoever.

Unless Heilberg, the prosecutor, and the judge are 100% on board with accepting an NGRI plea, but CHRIS would almost certainly fight that, and it would be a bad look for Heilberg.

EDIT: The most common NGRI verdicts today come from people zonked out on drugs. They still get convicted for taking the drugs in the first place, and are still responsible for the effects of what happened, but they aren't convicted of the crime itself.
 
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