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the same devs that tried to make a game like ff16 for everyone but ended up making a game for no one. 
Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company
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Froggy Fresh Sextape
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I'm convinced there are like three different teams working on the game and they are all awful
Gameplay group: here's stuff that melts your face
Cosmetic group: none of this fits in the game world at all but it's pretty
Storyline group: surprise i-SPHEEEENE
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Speaking of Final Fantasy XI - the game has actually had such an uptick in players recently that they had to close the Asura server to new characters. Asura has basically been the one remaining "real" server of XI so it's a pretty massive shift for the game's population to reach a point where they're trying to get people onto other servers.
Somehow I don't think this is completely disconnected from the current state of XIV.
Somehow I don't think this is completely disconnected from the current state of XIV.
John Roguelike
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It absolutely isn't, and this uptick has been happening for a while, though probably not at these current levels. People playing final fantasy 14 habitually become curious during downtime and try 11 out, if not other final fantasy games. 11 is still a very small game compared to 14, but this is wild news. Hopefully the game survives a long time, because those ps2 dev kits are breaking down over time. Hopefully they figure out a good way to package the game into an offline mode instead of killing the game. Either use trusts or even create a bunch of custom adventurers that simulate either other players or at least other adventurers.
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Maybe putting all your creative resources into exclusively the boss fights was not the way to go and people actually enjoy playing MMOs in other capacities.
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Okay kiwibros, I am thinking about trying out some FF games. Can I play 7 and its remake without playing the old games, and which ones are good or bad? I know Google exists but I unironically trust you niggers more.
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The Remake/Rebirth pacing are pretty bad imo, but that is coming from someone who played the original FF7. The OG seems just a lot more well paced.
I think good FF entry points are 7 and 10 for newer FF titles and 5 and 6 for the older ones. Pixle remaster version of 1 is also pretty good. If you are coming from 14 you will see that they have lifted a lot from FF 3 and 5.
Lost in Place
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Outside of some outliers like X/X-2 and the 13 trilogy none of them are really connected in any way.
As far as 7 goes, the original is far superior for a variety of reasons biggest among them is pacing. I think the active combat was a poor choice too. They tried to stretch out one PS1 3 disc game into three ps4/5 sized games so there is a lot of... fluff added that is completely pointless. Though with the original the graphics are a pretty big turn off to people a lot of the time. But there are some decent mods around.
Quality wise I think they're mostly all enjoyable JRPGs except 10(I HATE THIS GAME), 15(who makes a JRPG and just leaves out half the story?), and I haven't played 16. Ones that really stand out, to me, would be 5 and 6 for the old NES style. 7,and 9 for the 3D style.
Very unpopular opinion so probably ignore it: I enjoyed the first and third 13's.
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I seriously don't get why they wanted to stretch out the Midgar portion so much. It's obviously the game's tutorial area (albeit a fairly extensive one where you can miss quite a bit of things), but the real game only starts once you're allowed to free-roam.
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My personal favorite is FF9. I would recommend it, its on steam and of you so desire it can be enchanced graphically and with some QoL with Moguri Mod. If youre feeling daring i dare you to get Excalibur 2(seriously dont, you have to essentiay speedrun the game and the weapon only sees use in the final battle basically.
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There's a remaster of Final Fantasy Tactics coming out later this year and FFT is one of the games that might as well be main-series with how universally beloved it is and how it's directly tied to a main-series game (specifically Final Fantasy XII). It's in my personal top 5 of all time for vidya.
If you've played the Ivalice Raid series, you'll have encountered a lot of the characters but the raid series alters the plot points a lot and you miss out on some of the truly excellent characters. Also it's maybe like 5% of the actual FFT story.
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I'm a huge fan of FFT, but I can't recommend this remaster. It is far and away from being a definitive version of the game. Between the denuvo malware it comes with and cutting out content in War Of The Lions for some weird butthurt reason about the original dev not liking that fans enjoyed those later additions another dev made, it's better to just play ROMs of the existing FFT library.
TLDR: There's really no reason to get the remaster. If I want the original experience I can just play the original ROM. If I want the War Of The Lions experience I can just play War Of The Lions. It's pretty pointless.
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Baron Reginald
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You CAN. But I heavily do not suggest it.
I will tl;dr and say that it has better graphics (obviously) and a much nicer soundtrack, but the story, art direction, and mood is not a retelling/remake as the games title suggest and is more like a shitty fanfic, where it's a multiverse/timetravel plot repeating the first game but totally different!
That guy rants a bit much, but it does show some side by side moments to kinda show what I mean.
FF9 is a personal favorite, if you don't mind the bubbly cartoonish appearance. FF8 is a black sheep of the franchise, you love it or you hate it. No inbetween.
FF10 is well loved, for a reason. It's kinda corny but it's feature packed for a JRPG, and the sphere grid is kinda amazing and is what inspired Path of Exiles skill trees.
FF16 is okay if you get it really cheap (or free winkwink), undercooked but was a nice enough...moviegame, an okay thing to waste maybe 20 hours since it lacks much content.
Avoid XIII, and if you want to go to the classics, 1, 4, 5 and 6 are probably the most favoured, but I would suggest 6, though.
Tactics is great, but ignore the remake, it isn't adding anything or updating the graphics by much of a margin and it will not include the bonus content that War of the Lions added.
(Edit; Unless you meant can you play 7, without playing 1-6? In which case. Yes. All the numbered FF games are self-contained.)
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Are any of the XI private servers good for someone who just wants to play through the story? People say retail is the best option, but that requires giving SE more of my money (which will also be used to fund other flops no doubt).
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I would only play Remake if you really enjoy 7. As mentioned, it's an extremely stretched out version of the original. Personally, I enjoyed both Remake and Rebirth because it's a new spin on stuff I fell in love with as a kid, but I can understand why some people don't. That said, FF8 is my actual favorite and anyone that doesn't like it doesn't know how to play the game properly and I will fucking die on this hill.
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Going on any server that doesn't have Trust or is capped to level 75 will mean that your story progression is gated to how good you can network and how many friends you make and how you can convince them to spend hours for no return. If there is a private server that mirrors the current SE game, I'd go for that.
SE actually made sure that their subscription version is (mostly) easy to solo, just takes a lot of time. If you enjoy exploring/travelling in these games, it very much is worth it though.
RE: Which FF games to play
Completely forgot FF9, it is very very good and a great start, even if it was conceptually SE saying goodbye to the olden style FF games.
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Fuck, just avoid any FF after the squeenix merger.
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I would advise against trying to play FF11 "for the story". Yes, it has a story with cutscenes, but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the enormous amount of time you will spend running across the world to level on monsters for hours on end, and then running across the world to dungeons to touch a ??? marker or to farm mobs for a key drop and then more time running around the dungeon searching for a chest to open with the key and get your artifact armor, etc. If you play Retail FF11 you get NPC party members and exp multipliers to expedite this but the moment to moment gameplay will still be overall boring and you will still spend far more time trekking and farming than watching cutscenes, let alone doing story battles. You will get a better experience playing on the Horizon private server where you will need to party up with other people past level 10, and then you are chatting with people while exping or going into dungeons. A real MMORPG experience.
Biggest thing to watch out for is the first time setup of the controls and learning how to navigate the interface. You will also want to use BG wiki as a database for understanding quests and NPCs and how abilities work.
FF11's proportion of story/cutscenes to gameplay ratio increases with the Chains of Promathia expansion, but ideally you would want to beat the base game storyline and Rise of the Zilart before starting CoP, which is a very large time investment even on Retail. Aht Urghan has some neat stuff like when Shantotto comes to Aht Urghan trying to extract you and the gag with the robot fight, or merc captain doctoring the employee reviews, or the upside down camera shot when the heroine is spying on the hero, etc, but nothing super amazing that you are missing out on. You can just watch the best cutscenes on Youtube and save yourself the time. If you want a story based game then just pick whichever singleplayer FF game appeals to you the most. The PS1 FF games are the most fun right out the gate.
Biggest thing to watch out for is the first time setup of the controls and learning how to navigate the interface. You will also want to use BG wiki as a database for understanding quests and NPCs and how abilities work.
FF11's proportion of story/cutscenes to gameplay ratio increases with the Chains of Promathia expansion, but ideally you would want to beat the base game storyline and Rise of the Zilart before starting CoP, which is a very large time investment even on Retail. Aht Urghan has some neat stuff like when Shantotto comes to Aht Urghan trying to extract you and the gag with the robot fight, or merc captain doctoring the employee reviews, or the upside down camera shot when the heroine is spying on the hero, etc, but nothing super amazing that you are missing out on. You can just watch the best cutscenes on Youtube and save yourself the time. If you want a story based game then just pick whichever singleplayer FF game appeals to you the most. The PS1 FF games are the most fun right out the gate.
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None of you said Kingdom Hearts...
9 for the last FFs, but 10 is sublime, great plot, and a very developed skill tree.
9 for the last FFs, but 10 is sublime, great plot, and a very developed skill tree.
Baron Reginald
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I will snip this and agree with it, I don't suggest 11 unless you have a genuine ability to slowly invest hundreds of hours into something with incredibly slow progress out of curiosity.
It is a harrowing experience to play without a friend group, even with trusts.