🐟 Fishtank Fishtank.Live General - Jet Neptune's Pisces Aquarium Internet Reality Show w/ Host Bam Margera

[Aidan]

I get the sentiment. There's a lot of useless fucks online that have accomplished nothing and have never been in charge of anything worth a shit, and yet somehow think they are in a position to tell others that they are doing x thing they have never done or attempted to do, wrong. And they say it with such certainty. Jet is still a retarded nigger faggot though.

Undoubtedly, however Jet gains nothing by acting this way. The best outcome is nothing happens, the worst is that he upsets some fans and they go away. It's stupid to repeatedly insult your own fanbase, especially over "production L" which is nothing and everyone he sees saying that has paid money to say it.

 

[bookers]

Abi was in rough shape with a bruise on her temple and hospital bands declaring her a fall risk because she seems like she left for the airport shortly after discharging from the hospital.

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tf happened to make her go to the hospital?
looks like someone kicked the shit out of her

 

[sum ting wong]

tf happened to make her go to the hospital?
looks like someone kicked the shit out of her

A strong gust of wind and a flight of stairs.

 

[Mudkipcorn]

I don't hate Jet. I don't think I would like being around him in person. He's seedy, childish and a bit full of himself but that's no cause for hate to me. Like most fans (and not only in this thread), he has made some decisions re: the show that I think were horribly misguided. Last week of S2 is the worst example and it really turned me off. But still, I enjoy the show and he has made it all happen. Bloodgames was great and I was a Bitchtank enjoyer.

Jet isn't someone to admire (hard to imagine that anyone could look up to him). But as a fan of the show, I can't hate him. He can be retarded but what has he done to earn my hate? Shitting on this website and making bad decisions? Who cares.

On the other hand, starting a new season of Fishtank when I will be on holiday is just malicious. Okay, I hate him now. If there's another delay I will rescind the hate.

 

[Rache Bartmoss]

Someone made an excellent edit of Bloodgames that was unfortunately DMCA'd by the wiggers. Thankfully, someone managed to archive it. Here's the local 360p copy of it.

HD Link (might expire in the future)

 

[joker jimmy]

Have any of the bitches had any online presence since it ended? It’s crazy how fast it seemed to fall out of everyone’s mind even though nothing fishtank related has really happened since then.

Shadi was on Powtank

Edit: not even ninja’d, I just didn’t read the thread

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I know this will never happen but if they had 2024 late stage liver cirrhosis Bam Margera on Fishtank for season 3 it would be so funny.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Season 2.5 Bloodgames Financials / TTS

Ok I decided to trawl the data for 2.5 and here is what I came up with. We're talking approximated figures here don't get anal retentive, I'll list out obvious caveats for each metric.

Total unique usernames sending TTS during 2.5: 1998 (production accounts are included because I don't know all of the new sock puppets, NEO98 is an obvious new one since it was spamming shit like "test test pov cam test" this is a clumsy metric because usernames can change multiple times over a season so keep that in mind.

Total TTS sent during 2.5: 9928

Spoiler: TTS by date

6/25/24: 80
6/26/24: 755
6/27/24: 349
6/28/24: 893
6/29/24: 898
6/30/24: 580
7/1/24: 1118
7/2/24: 755
7/3/24: 725
7/4/24: 362
7/5/24: 702
7/6/24: 830
7/7/24: 1218
7/8/24: 1293

$297k in profits assuming that TTS remained at $30 the whole season, obviously there was fire sales both for purchasing tokens at times and on TTS as well, this is an approximation and this variable nature in token value persists all the time so its never really possible to get a good benchmark.

Total SFX sent during 2.5: 3866
$77k in profits for SFX assuming $20 with the same caveats as above.

So we're likely able to land somewhere in a range of $350k-$400k in income off TTS/SFX since obviously production sends shitloads. We cannot track fishtoys or tokens consumed by polls any longer but there was some serious spending on stuff like "Put Fatty away" and releasing him, Evil Kevin was supposedly a Fishbnb person so that is $25k right there. There may be another FishBNB dude alongside Evil Kevin that we never learned the name of that could be another $25k. There are better pictures of the dude but I'm not really interested in finding them.

Then we have to get into irregular income streams, did ifunny actually do a paid sponsorship or was it a mutual meme partnership just promoting each other? This is the kind of data we'll never know.

I think its safe to put the season somewhere near a range of $400k-$450k gross profit.

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Directed TTS at fish

Sorting through the TTS for directed messages specifically to a POV camera of a fish or by calling out a fish by name in the message yields this. I accounted for permutations like Jimbo for Jimmy, Jon/John or obvious callouts like dyke for Tay and a quick scan of the TTS messages showed that it was indeed people hurling insults at Tay. I wanted to see if I could pin "gay" to Jon but it just doesn't work, people were spamming dumbgay, oliver gay and just calling everyone and everything gay in the show, both before Jon showed up on day 1 and after he left. Dumbgay is the definite wildcard because nobody knows how to spell his fucking name.

Contestant:
Jimmy 1660, Jon 1119, Tay 896, Letty 778, Vance 416, Tai 365
Former Fish NPCs:
Greg 307, TJ 68, Mauro 53, Brian 45, Taylor 43, Dumbgay 28
NPC:
'Xavier': 205, 'Duke': 141, 'Blacksmith+Wife': 24, 'Trader': 7, 'Priest': 4, 'Sodaman': 11, 'Trapper': 3, 'Goblin': 153, 'Creature': 157, 'Minion' 'Cage': 7, 'Trixie': 3, 'Evil Kevin': 19, 'Greaser': 1

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Top 50 paypigs for Season 2.5
I don't know all the new sockpuppets or new production members so i just left them in,

Spoiler: Table

Messages​	Username​	Value (Assuming $30 TTS)​
356​	mints​	$10,680.00​
213​	NEO97​	$6,390.00​
205​	JaredLetoSelfSuk​	$6,150.00​
163​	maejok​	$4,890.00​
133​	jet​	$3,990.00​
91​	Aperture​	$2,730.00​
90​	JonSelfSuck​	$2,700.00​
79​	mod​	$2,370.00​
77​	Tryll​	$2,310.00​
75​	CAWWWW​	$2,250.00​
70​	Crud​	$2,100.00​
69​	LoonyPoopy​	$2,070.00​
64​	ben​	$1,920.00​
64​	AustinSavage​	$1,920.00​
63​	turntorangutan​	$1,890.00​
62​	FellingIsYunny​	$1,860.00​
61​	gleeber​	$1,830.00​
54​	cracka_jack​	$1,620.00​
52​	noirnccgae69844b​	$1,560.00​
50​	alexjones99​	$1,500.00​
48​	Sir_cum_flex​	$1,440.00​
46​	rohitpatel​	$1,380.00​
46​	nylonpython​	$1,380.00​
45​	goosmus​	$1,350.00​
44​	pepequax​	$1,320.00​
43​	RealChristianGod​	$1,290.00​
42​	Tony_Gump​	$1,260.00​
42​	sharkbucket​	$1,260.00​
42​	DiabeticJimmy​	$1,260.00​
40​	www​	$1,200.00​
40​	Feet_Appetizer​	$1,200.00​
38​	vvill​	$1,140.00​
37​	HarshBDSMmaster1​	$1,110.00​
36​	meatballpaulie​	$1,080.00​
35​	FranklinHasslow​	$1,050.00​
34​	mongolianbeast​	$1,020.00​
33​	DoveMan​	$990.00​
33​	booboobby​	$990.00​
32​	ronald88​	$960.00​
32​	BIMMY​	$960.00​
29​	hardbloke​	$870.00​
29​	free_betty​	$870.00​
29​	fenjin​	$870.00​
29​	f3rked​	$870.00​
28​	Smocainefour​	$840.00​
28​	jjjbg​	$840.00​
28​	arbyz_fan_101​	$840.00​
27​	moneygetter421​	$810.00​
27​	hogwars​	$810.00​
27​	BigMike36​	$810.00​

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Conclusions

I can't really add much more, the data kinda speaks to itself, I think its interesting to graph the TTS per day because it shows that there was an upward trend until the day Tayleigh tackled Xavier, from that point you get a hard crash to July 4th which was regarded as an interesting day by most since it had the Jimmy-Jon fight during the day and the Blood Rave at night, during that period you had Tai and Letty somewhat burn out and go dormant plus Jon was sent off to the hospital multiple times. You can actually measure the "fishtank seasonal implosion" via TTS form. Interestingly you get an upward swing off of the fish being confined to Basecamp during the "police state" stuff or the Cell. I was somewhat surprised to see that Chudgang beat out the three season 1 contestants combined in directed TTS, Jimmy/Tay = 2556 to Jon/Letty/Vance's = 2313 and it being a near run affair if you also added in Tai's total putting it to 2678.

 

[Marche]

I know this will never happen but if they had 2024 late stage liver cirrhosis Bam Margera on Fishtank for season 3 it would be so funny.
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Bam Margera is going to save S3 like Dr.Disrespect in S1 and Mr.beast in s2

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

I'll crunch the numbers for Cell/Bitchtank later today, it'll take a bit of time figuring out TTS price but I have the data for TTS just like 2.5. I think I can yank the TTS price from a Scott stream because I remember him being thirsty as fuck TTSing Haley during the show while streaming. If you have any requests for the 2.5 stuff just ask, same with Cell/Bitchtank, I'll see if I can get the results you want from the datasets. Given that I have the scripts already written it should be quite quick to do the shitty graphs and bad piecharts.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Conclusions

factoring in TTS being so insanely high, the average simps spend more on half a month of TTS here than the average simp on OF spents for a month of content. its insane that someone would spend $30 for a fucking message. out of all the shit to waste $30 that shouldn't be one of them

 

[Pink Hotel On The Corner]

I know this will never happen but if they had 2024 late stage liver cirrhosis Bam Margera on Fishtank for season 3 it would be so funny.
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I remember in 2002, I thought he was the pinnacle of badass and cool. He just can't get it together. Accept your friend is gone and maybe your life will get better Bam.

 

[Born2Sneed]

Someone made an excellent edit of Bloodgames that was unfortunately DMCA'd by the wiggers. Thankfully, someone managed to archive it. Here's the local 360p copy of it.
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HD Link (might expire in the future)

this is better than any edit jet could come up with

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

factoring in TTS being so insanely high, the average simps spend more on half a month of TTS here than the average simp on OF spents for a month of content. its insane that someone would spend $30 for a fucking message. out of all the shit to waste $30 that shouldn't be one of them

I don't remember if it remained at $30 the whole season, it may have dropped to $15 and I just dont remember it. Season 2 started off with it at $50 the first week intentionally to squelch TTS.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Cell/Bitchtank Financials / TTS

Once again I'm not bothering to cull out Jet or any other production member's TTS, SFX, or Fishtoys, these are approximated figures for you to get a rough guess on how successful the show is doing.



Total TTS sent: 20,054
Assuming $10 TTS = $200,540

Spoiler: TTS per day

7/9/24: 126
7/10/24: 239
7/11/24: 310
7/12/24: 609
7/13/24: 443
7/14/24: 832
7/15/24: 1120
7/16/24: 902
7/17/24: 693
7/18/24: 992
7/19/24: 849
7/20/24: 1213
7/21/24: 1180
7/22/24: 1267
7/23/24: 750
7/24/24: 517
7/25/24: 1074
7/26/24: 617
7/27/24: 617
7/28/24: 1859
7/29/24: 1096
7/30/24: 1229
7/31/24: 970
8/1/24: 587

Spoiler: TTS price proof

I yanked this screenshot from a Scott stream showing the TTS price being about $10 during Bitchtank so we'll just run with that as our average price.

Total SFX sent: 3,588
Assuming $10 SFX = $35,880
I'm going to assume this was $10 as well, usually SFX is cheaper than TTS but since TTS was so low I don't see Jet putting SFX to $5 because it would be unending spam.

Total income from TTS/SFX= $236,420

Total unique usernames sending TTS during Cell/Bitchtank: 1998 -- once again keep in mind that usernames can be changed mid season to inflate this figure.

Top 50 Paypigs

Spoiler: Top 50 paypigs

Username​	TTS​	Amount ($)​
jet​	831​	$8,310.00​
Aperture​	491​	$4,910.00​
mints​	477​	$4,770.00​
pooprag​	309​	$3,090.00​
jimmy​	253​	$2,530.00​
JaredLetoSelfSuk​	232​	$2,320.00​
kenLee69​	206​	$2,060.00​
steinful​	195​	$1,950.00​
40ozBudIce​	192​	$1,920.00​
macktheknife​	186​	$1,860.00​
www​	184​	$1,840.00​
Fishuan​	179​	$1,790.00​
MrBeanz11​	154​	$1,540.00​
Winji​	137​	$1,370.00​
josielovesbbc​	135​	$1,350.00​
CAWWWW​	134​	$1,340.00​
gOOnTM​	126​	$1,260.00​
lutefisk​	122​	$1,220.00​
boatboat​	122​	$1,220.00​
mattyj​	121​	$1,210.00​
manholdup​	119​	$1,190.00​
FederalAsian​	118​	$1,180.00​
lettychad​	114​	$1,140.00​
fabio​	114​	$1,140.00​
Tryll​	108​	$1,080.00​
Feet_Appetizer​	106​	$1,060.00​
oddbod60​	105​	$1,050.00​
nylonpython​	105​	$1,050.00​
f3rked​	102​	$1,020.00​
mod​	101​	$1,010.00​
scottsullivanmma​	100​	$1,000.00​
Born2Cum​	92​	$920.00​
ronald88​	91​	$910.00​
alexjones99​	90​	$900.00​
ben​	88​	$880.00​
Learn2Juggle​	87​	$870.00​
FaceShitter​	87​	$870.00​
LoonyPoopy​	86​	$860.00​
NEO97​	85​	$850.00​
Douggem​	81​	$810.00​
Dorito​	81​	$810.00​
slampapa​	78​	$780.00​
pillenjoyer​	78​	$780.00​
MUDMAN​	76​	$760.00​
AustinSavage​	74​	$740.00​
SteveLaFon​	73​	$730.00​
Crud​	73​	$730.00​
wes​	72​	$720.00​
agartha_pilled​	72​	$720.00​
spurv​	71​	$710.00​

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FISHTOYS

Balls = 1977
Balls at $10 price = $19,770
I can remember off the top of my head that there was about 2k balls delivered and they were $10 a pop so we can get a good read on this fishtoy.

Roses = 500-700
Profit = $20k
There is absolutely no way of really counting this hence the fiasco that Jet ran into leading to Claire's elimination, the closest figure I can come to is about 850 roses being delivered into the room over the course of the show. The price dropped at the end of the rose challenge plus we have obvious sockpuppets like DrippyDrop giving Haley 60 before Ben and Jet just did it openly. I think its safe to run with a figure about 500 full price roses and another 200 at a reduced price and just round it to an even $20k in profit

Spoiler: Rose Price

Courtesy of a Trish stream we have a price point for roses

Mr Bean = $350ish

There is no way to calculate income off of fishtoys like standing Jules in the corner, hugs or mountain dews to Greg so we'll just have to ignore that.

Approximate gross profit = $275k-$300k

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Waifu Wars -- TTS Popularity

Just as with 2.5, this is a count of TTS calling out a person's name, supportive or negative, or referencing something they did to a third party, so "Shadi, Haley is fucking your shit up go get her" would be counted towards both Shadi and Haley.


Claire 1580, Haley 1136, Shadi 539, Abi 347


Dave 1324, Letty 723, Oddbod 727, Nifty 338, Zoltar 387, Spencer 185


Greg 599, Juliana 592, Jacob 259, Kato 129, Zoey 53, Kalei 42, Leah 38

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Conclusions

Not really much more I can add, the numbers for Claire and Dave are kinda off because both spent time on both "shows" Cell and Bitchtank. I didn't add in Dumbgay, the homeless people, Xavier/Ronnie, Pearl or Bliccy because they didn't stick around in the tank 24/7 and I realize now that Zoey didn't either but I already made the charts so fuck it. I think the charts still showcase a good demonstration of popularity relative to other contestants/freeloaders for the two shows so its not really a big deal. Jules seems to have overperformed as a freeloader and was more popular than Shadi who was there two weeks compared to Jules just being a week, but as always the show gets returns on investment, Jules had a lot of memes around her like "The Rat" or the Mr Bean costume while they didn't really get too invested into Shadi, same with their investment into Claire and Haley vs Abi and Shadi. Yes Haley got a lot of gaslighting TTS from production hyping her up but all fish get this treatment via TTS, this is just an indirect and partly flawed way of measuring popularity/infamy of fish relative to eachother but better than any other.

I'm noticing Letty seems to have underperformed in both 2.5 and Cell/Bitchtank at attracting TTS given her reputation as Miss Fishtank 2023 and all around fan favorite. I suppose that a mix of love and hate, or even pure hate is more profitable than pure love because Letty had nearly twice the TTS directed towards her compared to Josie in Season 1.

I'll keep the data and scripts for a day or two if anyone has any queries they want answered then Im deleting it all.

 

[TwistedFreak]

Guys, I think we all know the problem here with Jet. He hasn't graduated from the Sam Hyde book club. How the fuck does Jet align himself with MDE without reading King, Warrior, Magician, Lover? He is clearly partially occupying the space of the high chair tyrant. Even if he distances himself from this archetype, it is coming as a response to audience criticism rather than something from within.

The thing people respect about Sam, Nick and Charls is that they're all self starters in different ways. Nick has worked throughout many shitty jobs, subjected himself to a lot of torment throughout the years, and has had to work for everything he got. More than anyone else in MDE, Nick has had the most levels to his current area of success- which is why many times he is viewed as the favorite. He has genuinely worked for it.

Sam, while having a father with deep pockets, has also experienced a lot of struggle in his life. He grew up with a neglectful father and lived with his mother in an apartment. He had to struggle to get to where he is at as well. Sam had to live with isolating his friends from his actions from losing the show. Instead of when Charls and Nick gave up on the dream, Sam kept it alive. Sam does not get enough credit for that. When Nick and Charls gave up the comedy career, Nick was selling cars, and Charls was streaming on twitch playing movies and video games for about 200 people per stream.

Instead of giving up on his friends and dreams, Sam kept the dream alive and funded an opportunity for himself and his friends again. Doing right by Charls who called him out for purposely sabotaging the show, which is completely justified on Charls' end for thinking. Sam could've easily gave up, or held some sort of petty grudge towards Charls for his comments. Instead Sam took this as an opportunity to lift his friend back up. This is something I think Charls has picked up on as of late. Initially when Charls moved back, he probably saw it as an easy way to grab cash, but now Charls has realized everything Sam did to keep this dream alive for MDE. Did Sam also benefit in this process? Sure, but he could've cut Charls out of the deal at any point, but kept his bond and word from the original show.

Charls has done the most development post MDE. He lived in Africa with his non American wife, essentially due to hurt from losing his show and not being able to cope with the reality surrounding the shows cancellation.

This is why everyone, regardless of political affiliation and like/dislike opinions- respects Sam, Charls, and Nick. All 3 experienced massive adversity and hardship. Jet's struggle or lack there of, is not as documented-and he has no work to stand alone on as himself as the main contributor.

Jet will not relinquish his producer spot as he owns 50% (probably 49.9%) equity in the company and it would be a mess getting Jet to step down, unless he decides to do so on his own.

 

[SMOCAINE 4]

its insane that someone would spend $30 for a fucking message. out of all the shit to waste $30 that shouldn't be one of them

You underestimate the fun you can have calling Vance a rapist, or calling Shadi a cow.

I don't remember if it remained at $30 the whole season, it may have dropped to $15 and I just dont remember it. Season 2 started off with it at $50 the first week intentionally to squelch TTS.

TTS prices also fluctuate based on the time of day, in Bitchtank (for sure) and Bloodgames (iirc), TTS was cheaper in the morning (because nobody was fucking awake). I think your $10 TTS estimates for these off seasons are pretty accurate based on the changes throughout the day. Really awesome to see your numbers here.

usually SFX is cheaper than TTS

Once they added the AI generated SFX I believe SFX became more expensive than TTS. Maybe $15? Hopefully someone can confirm but I recall SFX being slightly more expensive during the off seasons.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Top 50 Paypigs

Whoever this Jet guy is sure must have a lot of money to be sending so many TTS messages! /sneed

seriously though if they're really making so much fucking money doing this why is every ip2 weirdo broke junkies? At least we know why Jet said they could do a streaming career and never work again, even if these bitches got 1% of what was sent in just from TTS they'd be making 6 figures. My question is if they're making $300k a month even with mostly unknown women and just that much a week with known people why isnt someone bigger adopting this method? you do this year round you have a $4 million dollar business. Your biggest cost would be bandwidth, but once you knock that shit out, (wasn't that 50k a month) all you have to do is pay a half dozen dudes $20 an hour to keep shit going behind the scenes and you're still left with 100k in profit every month. And that's with only a "paypig" base of under 2k. Imagine you get some of these bigger OF women or actual "celebs" and figure out a way to market to boomers this and you're rolling in the dough.

The fact that the average amount per paypig is relatively the same is surprising too. It really does say that you pretty much have to rely on more users to make money.

If people can help can you figure out what percentage of TTS are from production/production accounts even just going by Jet's TTS number production is inflating the revenue by at least 5%, imagine if we found out production was responsible for like a quarter of TTS and fishtoys and balls. I could easily see Jet going "fuck it give X a fishtoy it will inspire these retards to buy some/put some more balls in/spam messages for an hour"

You have to realize from the season 1 editing fiasco and how blatantly Jet was spamming TTS in season 2 they don't give a flying fuck because it doesn't actually cost them $10-40 to send messages

 

[Alizarin Crimson]

seriously though if they're really making so much fucking money doing this why is every ip2 weirdo broke junkies?

Yes, it's a total mystery why a big brother-style web show with a full production (even if they're wiggers) based on the audience interacting with the contestants via donations, hosted by an infamous comedian would be making more money than nobody crackheads doing IRL streams.

You are beyond retarded.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

nobody crackheads doing IRL streams

Andy Dick isn't a nobody! he's Null's favorite male rapper!