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- Oct 9, 2021
It's much harder to doxx someone if their name isn't known and no one in contact with them has leaked their phone number or internet accounts, even if there are high definition pictures of them. There are some possible strategies, like
looking up information on people who might know them (this was attempted earlier in the thread by looking up names of people associated with Caden)
discovering their most frequented locations (all we know is that she's been to places like malls and conventions with Chris, along with the airport which could mean she's from anywhere that's not driving distance to Virginia)
making educated guesses where they're from (this is why some have narrowed it down to Finland, which is not narrow enough)
what kind of profession they're in (we don't even know anything about this; some have guessed she's a college student but I don't think that's likely because she's supposedly 30 and has been sighted with Chris on periods of time that don't typically coincide with college breaks)
...the list goes on
I believe Flutter hasn't been doxxed yet because:
-She gets along well enough with the people in her personal life (family, any friends she might have) that they aren't willing to leak her identity. She hasn't done anything heinous like Isabella Janke, or Eric Clanton the ANTIFA bike lock assaulter.
(To this day I don't know exactly how Eric Clanton's identity was leaked but because he lived around the area he committed the assault, I'm assuming that someone he knew nearby leaked his name once news was getting around and 4chan took things from there with e-sleuthing. All photos and videos involving Flutter merely involving hanging out with Chris, not committing a violent crime, so even if there are acquaintances who aren't on best terms with her, they may either not care enough to leak her name or they may simply not know of her time hanging out with a literal motherfucker)
-While she's probably extremely online, she may not have any accounts that obviously trace back to her. All her potential Twitter accounts, Discord accounts, Facebook accounts, Instagram accounts, etc - may not have her photo and may not even have her real name (some people have their nicknames and a fake last name on Facebook).
-Chris has been successfully coached into not leaking her information aside from her nickname 'Flutter', her supposed age, her liking Fluttershy, how he got into contact with her.
-She may live in Finland and not the USA which means that techniques used to doxx Americans don't apply so easily to her (e.g. looking up social media and youtube pages pertaining to schools or workplaces in America - e.g. doxxing Bella via coming across her high school and watching her graduation ceremony). While there are Finns who know of Chris Chan, it's possible that only few Finns who remember her IRL know of Chris Chan, and it's possible that hypothetical Finns who came across footage of her with Chris Chan and also recognize her IRL don't want to leak her identity.
-It's also possible that there are hypothetical Finns or hypothetical people in general, who *would* leak her name if they saw the footage of her hanging out with Chris, but simply haven't come across it yet.
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Let's assume that her name and a picture or some other identifying info is somewhere on the internet
-it could be something like a social media page that doesn't contain pictures of her, but has enough info that suggests it's her (e.g. someone named Saara Kaaleste on Instagram who doesn't have pictures of herself, but who posts Fluttershy memes, and also shared a picture from her recent trip to America that involves a place near where she hung out with Chris). One may stumble across such a thing if they go through enough Fluttershy stuff on Instagram and notice a Finnish name like 'Saara Kaaleste' and notice that picture of her trip to America, but that could be a very time consuming endeavor
-it could be an obscure old pic that has her name spelled out nearby, but may not even clearly look like her in 2024, on some Finnish high school blogspot page from over 14 years ago. Such a page probably would not even be found to begin with unless her name is already known.
-it could be a Finnish MLP meetup page that doesn't contain her pic or age but mentions her name and her being a fan of Fluttershy. I don't know much about what kinds of potential Finnish social media would even involve such a thing, but let's assume it's done on facebook. Facebook isn't as easy to search as it used to be, and even if a sleuth stumbled across it, all it would be is give a potential name that could lead nowhere.
-it could be a Finnish female friend's publicly available Instagram photo from years ago that does contain a picture of her which closely resembles how she looks in the pics with Chris, and includes her name but can only be discovered through luckily stumbling across it because it has no relevant hashtags (maybe it just has a hashtag that's the Finnish word for friend)
If one or more of the aforementioned assumptions are true, someone who knows *enough* details could eventually find her name and other information.
(e.g. someone who knows Finnish who knows the general area of Finland that she's from and also assumes she's 30 or 31, and wants to spend hours looking through social media pages of schools and universities and anime/video game spots; or social media pages of Finns who like Fluttershy, or something along those lines; ). But that would still take an exorbitant amount of effort even for someone with clues to narrow it down.
It becomes much harder when we don't even know exactly where she's from, and Finland is merely an educated guess. Even if she was definitely Finnish, that likely wouldn't narrow it down to point where brute force methods would be viable (e.g. spending multiple hours combing through Finnish MLP stuff on the internet).
If we knew the general area of Finland where she's from, someone could hypothetically spread her picture around on social media pages pertaining to that area and claim that she's wanted for something heinous (I believe this has been a tactic successfully used in the past). But we don't even know for sure that she's from Finland.
I don't think a high definition picture of her would even help all that much, if one or more of the aforementioned assumptions are true.
Circling back to my example of Eric Clanton, if there were no publicly available stuff on the internet that connected the name to his face and left wing politics, someone who leaked his name to 4channers probably wouldn't have had much of an effect, because it would just be a "just trust me" kind of thing. Remember that it took *YEARS* for Adam Lanza's publicly available Youtube channel to be tied to him.
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Here's what I think are the most likely scenarios of how she COULD be found out in the future, aside from the obvious which is Chris stupidly leaking more info or a butthurt member of Praetor having a falling out and leaking info as a spite.
Scenario 1: Someone who cares enough to do extra sleuthing on the fly, somehow randomly comes across her in public hanging out with Chris and walks near them but makes it inconspicuous enough for them to not notice they're being eavesdropped. Assume that this person not only knows of Chris, but knows that Flutter's identity is a mystery and cares enough to try to find out more. Let's call this person "Random Improvisational Sleuth" or RIS for short. RIS could either listen to or go so far as to record a conversation Flutter is having with Chris. It would be possible that Flutter would say something like "I'm flying back to (insert Finnish city or town here) two days from now." RIS could then share the recording with a Discord friend, who would then leak it to reddit (idk Virginia's recording laws, but if it were not allowed on reddit because of illegality someone else could still download it and eventually share it with others on the Internet, and Kiwifarms would find out about it). This would narrow Flutter's location down to a specific part of Finland. Various internet autists employ various tactics, and eventually discern her identity from this one additional clue.
If Flutter or Chris drop additional clues in the conversation, it would serve to narrow things down further and make the search easier. (e.g. Chris clearly reveals her first name in a way that's more obvious than that recording where it sounded like he was saying "Alin" or "Alec" or "Ellen" which is my best guess. For example, in the conversation he could say "So Ellen what is your favorite restaurant you tried in America" ;; or Flutter could say something like "I'm going to share that picture of the store we were just at on (insert publically available large MLP Discord here)
Scenario 2: Someone who knows Flutter IRL converses with someone who either cares enough to doxx Flutter or knows someone who cares enough to doxx Flutter.
Example: Some girl who is acquaintances with Flutter in real life through being a former coworker and knows her identity (let's call this person Finn1), is conversing with some guy who knows a lot about Chris through the Internet (let's call this Finn2). Let's say Finn1 doesn't know about Chris, and even if Finn1 did, wouldn't care enough to doxx Flutter. However, Finn2 doesn't know Flutter, but does know of Chris's new mysterious female friend. Finn1 is talking to Finn2 about how her former coworker shared pictures in a group chat from her trip to America. Finn1 shows Finn2 those pictures because they want to see if they match up with their expectations of America. Finn2 notices a picture Flutter has taken that shows herself, and while he does not immediately recognize her, thinks she looks familiar.
Finn2 realizes hours later that the person from the picture earlier resembled the girl who was spotted on the Internet hanging out with Chris. The next day, Finn2 asks Finn1 to see the same picture, confirms to himself that it probably is Flutter, and asks for her full name because she "might be someone famous on the internet". Finn1 tells Finn2 that Flutter's full name is (something like "Ellen Vahtola") and that she used to work with her at some IT job.
Now...let's assume that Flutter is lucky enough that she doesn't get immediately doxxed because Finn2 wants to keep this secret for himself. However, it could still be leaked to the internet, if for example: a few weeks later, Finn2 is on Discord drunkenly chatting with a random British guy (let's call him Britbong) who knows about Chris. Britbong brings up the topic of Chris Chan, and Finn2 excitedly informs Britbong that Finn2 knows the name of the girl who people think may be getting fucked by Chris. Britbong asks Finn2 for proof, and Finn2 asks Finn1 for the pic from the group chat. Finn1 sends Finn2 the pic a few days later, and Finn2 sends it to Britbong, telling him to please keep it a secret.
Britbong doesn't give a fuck about keeping secrets and shares the pic to reddit and includes her real name ("Ellen Vahtola") and the fact that she used to work some IT job in Finland and some context of how he found out. A reddit mod bans him a few minutes later, but enough people already saved the information. They spread it around, and Flutter's real name and town and former job is now known.
Now let's assume Flutter is smart and lucky enough that when you look up her name and town and workplace on the Internet, it doesn't reveal anything that truly pinpoints it to the same girl in the pics and videos with Chris. Even if that were the case, some weens could try trolling Chris and her with the information, which could cause drama that would lead to even more information leaking about her (e.g. someone manages to get Chris to say he is in a relationship with a programmer girl named Ellen from (insert Finnish town here) - which could lead to a Finnish ween traveling to that town and eventually finding out her address).
and of course, there are multiple other possible scenarios that could be radically different from the two I just described, or similar enough that people will be calling me a prophet. Anyway...the future holds many possibilities, and if Flutter reads this post it may even help her increase the OPSEC, which is my compensation from me to her for being enough of a bad dude to vividly describe what I think her intimate time with Chris is like.
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