Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

I was unaware at time of posting the monocoque had failed. It got t-boned at crazy speed, something was gonna give.
For sure, the monocoque was already battered from hitting the tyres/wall so it's entirely likely it was shagged then, but the impact from Correa which lead to two monocoques colliding (immovable object, unstoppable force) made sure it was going to be bad.
 
It also happened on the exit of the Eau Rouge - Radillion complex so odds are, Correa was going 250+ KPH and had no time to react to the disaster in front of him. Utterly shit luck but that's part of the sport. Sometimes shit like this happens.

At least Correa will come out alive, but he's gonna have mental scars for this.
Yeah, he'll come out of it alive which is bloody good - but I know a guy who knows a guy who works at the Liege hospital and he was being told there's a chance he lost his legs, so to get away with just multiple breaks in his legs and a spinal injury with nothing being removed is bloody fortunate for him.

I can't remember which driver, or when, but I remember hearing a quote from a driver when discussing some great win they had that they felt almost as though they were possessed by a recently deceased close friend and competitor, and from the way Charles drove that rather lacking Ferrari to stay ahead of the clearly quicker Merc in the last 5 laps suggests to me that might actually happen.
 
Re: JMC, I saw a post yesterday that said one of his feet was in danger of being removed, but he will have a long recovery regardless as he certainly suffered serious injuries.

Charles win reminded me very much of Michael Waltrip when he won his first race ever, which just happened to be the Dayyona 500. Same race where Earnhardt died. So like Charles, for a first win in the top category, it was under very sombre circumstances and could not be really enjoyed due to the black cloud of losing a driver.

I also found another fan video yesterday on YT (since removed, when I came across it I downloaded it thinking the channel may delete it) and this shows a bit more of the start of the incident and shows Alesi's issue which started the chain reaction.

















Original YT Link:
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Singapore, shit race (who knew) which set me into a routine of sperging in a discord server about how shit street circuits are - you all cunts in this thread avoid that mostly.
Except fuck street circuits.
And fuck Ferrari.
Seb gets given engine modes, Charles doesn't. Charles is fighting for higher position but Seb have world champion times 4. Charles not allowed to pass. (Insert drooling moron images between each of those statements)
And fuck the absolute cretin audiences who decide to give Sebcrashtian Vettel (I am keeping this now, I find it funny) the Max Verstappen award [Driver of the Day] for doing literally nothing except have the team put him in front of his team mate and then letting him use more engine.

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I can't put mad at the internet emoji here. I deserve it. Fuck everything.
 
I slowly grow to dislike Leclerc, he's a whiny douche and if he wants to take over Vettel, he might have to catch up to him first.
With a 4 to 6 second lead and Hamilton directly behind Leclerc, ordering Vettel to drive slowly to allow Leclerc to overtake is utterly nonsensical.
 
I slowly grow to dislike Leclerc, he's a whiny douche and if he wants to take over Vettel, he might have to catch up to him first.
With a 4 to 6 second lead and Hamilton directly behind Leclerc, ordering Vettel to drive slowly to allow Leclerc to overtake is utterly nonsensical.

I really hope Charles realizes that bitching and moaning isn't gonna get him anywhere. Yeah it sucks he's basically at the mercy of Ferrari but being a Jaques Villeneuve on track is good way to piss off Ferrari. Just ask Alain Prost how chirping the team and the F643 went.
 
Leclerc is a good driver, that has to be said, he gets along with the Ferrari a lot better than Vettel, who constantly struggles with the wobbly aerodynamics, but he's acting up a bit too much. I mean, could be worse, early Verstappen was utterly inacceptable and I was actually expecting him to cause a crash with someone getting seriously injured. He calmed down and is a pretty decent driver now. The less we say about Kvyat, the better, though.

Looking forward to 2021, when they finally change the aerodynamics for underpressure-shenanigans. Hopefully, they'll also replace the Halo with something less ugly, like that prototype windshield thing.
 
I'm surprised they didn't look at ground effect earlier. It's been used quite well in Indycar and they've got no problems with it. The main issues there are the hazards of racing open wheels in ovals where speeds are higher and chances of big crashes are more substantial.
 
Hopefully, they'll also replace the Halo with something less ugly, like that prototype windshield thing.

The windscreen prototype in indy is basically that with a halo inside. Looks more sleeker than just the halo imo. Yeah the 2021 regs might make the cars slower but at least Williams can finally catch up. Like it's not gonna make them any slower now... Right?
 
The windscreen prototype in indy is basically that with a halo inside. Looks more sleeker than just the halo imo. Yeah the 2021 regs might make the cars slower but at least Williams can finally catch up. Like it's not gonna make them any slower now... Right?
Does it really slow down the cars though? I thought they could drive with similar downforce like today with severely less wind resistance.
It will at least allow slipstream driving and that might turn out really fantastic.
 
Slipstreams are already a thing, the real problem's dirty air making wings not work in fast and mid-speed corners. That's one of the major reasons why the DRS became a thing and why a lot of dumb boomers keep bitching about how getting rid of the wings somehow will solve the problem even though it'll only create about a dozen more.
 
So, now that the season's over it is time to speculate on what happens in 2020, besides Mercedes winning both Driver's and Constructor's title.
 
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So, now that the season's over it is time to speculate on what happens in 2020, besides Mercedes winning both Driver's and Constructor's title.
Formula E is actually more exciting at this point.
It's just a matter of time until the tv broadcasts in countries stop paying for F1 and switch to FE.
 
Formula E is actually more exciting at this point.
It's just a matter of time until the tv broadcasts in countries stop paying for F1 and switch to FE.
Eurosport already shows it here, but it's still too much of a gimmick series to really catch people's attention. Even then, the main reason it's more successful so far is that it's cheaper and rich idiots are more willing to spend 10 million on something that might become the number 2 to F1 compared to spending 50 million to not go anywhere besides bottom of the grid.
 
Well this thread needed necroing. What everyone think of:

Vettel out at Ferrari (certain) -

I feel a bit sorry for him he was never able to replicate Schumacher but I think unfortunate timing coming up against that Merc team and their current dominance.

Sainz in at Ferrari (rumor) -

Personally happy with that, I rate the guy and think he deserves a top car to show what he can do. He was unfortunate that Mad came along when he did and Red Bull pulled the chair out for Max rather than Sainz.

Ricciardo to McLauren (rumor, more likely if Sainz is moving) -

Another who was unfortunate thatax came along when he did and Red Bull decided he was their golden goose and left him seeking a mid field alternative. Shit didn't work out at Renault despite being super confident he could make it work. I see him going down in the list of great drivers never to win a championship at this point.

Alonso to Renault (rumor) -

Will be great to see him back again, wonder if he can replicate his glory days at the team. They have lots of development money and a big rules change on the horizon so could be a change in fortune?

Vettel to ? -

He is making sounds like he planned to retire but who knows? Red Bull don't want him back (apparently Albon is a nice compliment beta for Max according to Horner), I can't see him going to the likes of Haas or Alpha. Maybe an attempt at a William's resurrection but seriously doubt that will work. As for Merc he's a great stick for Toto to beat Hamilton with in contract negotiations but ultimately they'll keep Hamilton.
 
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Won't be any bitching about reactivating the thread from me. Was going to do it myself a few times over last couple months but its a pretty small group of Kiwis who have any interest in F1 so figured not much sense! LOL

Well this thread needed necroing. What everyone think of:

Vettel out at Ferrari (certain) -

I feel a bit sorry for him he was never able to replicate Schumacher but I think unfortunate timing coming up against that Merc team and their current dominance.

Agreed. In a different era, he may have bagged one or two titles in the red. Sad he didn't realize his dream, but he is loaded so don't think he will lose too much sleep over it!

Sainz in at Ferrari (rumor) -

Personally happy with that, I rate the guy and think he deserves a top car to show what he can do. He was unfortunate that Mad came along when he did and Red Bull pulled the chair out for Max rather than Sainz.

I think that Sainz to Ferrari will be confirmed tomorrow. I think its a good fit and Sainz deserves some glory so hoping he bags a win here and there, or many podiums at the very least. I don't think he will be a match for Charlie, but if he can be within 3/10ths of him that will be amazing.

Ricciardo to McLauren (rumor, more likely if Sainz is moving) -

Another who was unfortunate thatax came along when he did and Red Bull decided he was their golden goose and left him seeking a mid field alternative. Shit didn't work out at Renault despite being super confident he could make it work. I see him going down in the list of great drivers never to win a championship at this point.

Another done deal, probably announced before weekend. The nice thing with the Renault deal is it gave him a seat while some better opportunity, like this situation, eventually happened. He won't win a title with McLaren, unless they come out with a car like 1988, then he has a shot. But doubtful that gonna happen! I hope McLaren at least gets close enough to Top 3 to grab some podiums and a win maybe in 2021. Again, doubtful, but with them getting the Merc, they have a better chance than with the shitty Renault power.

Apparently Vettel was close to a deal with McLaren but it ain't happening now. Not sure the scoop on that, if it is just a rumour or there is some basis in fact for that to have been discussed.

Alonso to Renault (rumor) -

Will be great to see him back again, wonder if he can replicate his glory days at the team. They have lots of development money and a big rules change on the horizon so could be a change in fortune?

Given that the above two moves happen, then filling the Renault seat will be the big mystery and huge question mark. Doubtful he will go back though as he wants to win and be a title contender. Renault aren't going to be able to guarantee him that, and his asking price will also be too high.

Vettel is unlikely to go there as he appears not to be in it for the money so he would want same kind of situation, a car that can win and be in championship hunt.

Hulk??

Also, Renault has a pretty large stable of Academy drivers (Fewtrell, Lundgaard, Collet, Zhou). All capable drivers and here and there show flashes, but still too green and not consistent enough. As none are truly outstanding at the current moment, doubtful they would choose one (although why have an academy if they never get to F1??) but maybe they will have visions of a Max, Charlie or Norris and take a leap of faith and bring one of them up.

Vettel to ? -

He is making sounds like he planned to retire but who knows? Red Bull don't want him back (apparently Albon is a nice compliment beta for Max according to Horner), I can't see him going to the likes of Haas or Alpha. Maybe an attempt at a William's resurrection but seriously doubt that will work. As for Merc he's a great stick for Toto to beat Hamilton with in contract negotiations but ultimately they'll keep Hamilton.

He won't be back to RB. They don't need him now with Max there and I think Albon has potential too so they are in good stead for a solid driver combo for next few years if Albon does come through and starts snagging podiums and a win or two.

Like Fred, he is at a point in his career, success and financial wise, that if he is going to keep doing it, its because he wants to win. So only one other team now can give that to him. The Silver Arrows. Remember, Bottas is not signed for 21. So, technically he wouldn't be used as a negotiating tactic or replacement re: Hamilton, but a possible teammate. He is German after all so he would be a logical choice to replace Bottas in 2021. But what would that dynamic be like, Lewis v Vettel? Plus would Lewis or team want him?

But yeah, where Vettel goes (home or MB) and who Renault sticks in the seat, are the two unknowns because I think the Sainz to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren are done deals now.

Good necro, quality post, 10/10 @Coccxys!
 
I'm just going to do the brainlet thing and list what I say next year will be:
Mercedes, Hamilton and Bottas
Ferrari, Leclerc and Sainz (confirmed)
Red Bull, Verstappen and Albon
Racing Point (Aston Martin as they will be called next year), Stroll and Latifi
Mclaren, Norris and Ricciardo (confirmed)
Haas, Grosjean and Magnussen
Alpha Tauri, Gasly and Kvyat
Alfa Romeo, Raikkonnen and Giovinazzi
Renault, Ocon and probably Zhou because China money
Williams, Russell and [Highest Bidder, probably Roy Nissany ✡]
 
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