Funimation Audio Leaks - Sacred Ointment memes for degenerate teens

[Crocketron]

I'm actually hard pressed that nobody brought up ghost stories (An old ass anime Monica Rial starred in which had a rather infamous dub thanks to Animax).

 

[Markorian]

I'm actually hard pressed that nobody brought up ghost stories (An old ass anime Monica Rial starred in which had a rather infamous dub thanks to Animax).

That's a very different situation though, it was a license that was bought in bulk that they were contractually obligated to adapt, but since it was a show based on basically the Japanese equivalent to scary stories to tell in the dark, as that doesn't really translate to american success, they were given free reign so long as they adapted it.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

basically the Japanese equivalent to scary stories to tell in the dark,

Hold up. Don't go compareing those great books to the trash fire Non Dubbed Ghost stories is.

 

[Bender]

That's a very different situation though, it was a license that was bought in bulk that they were contractually obligated to adapt, but since it was a show based on basically the Japanese equivalent to scary stories to tell in the dark, as that doesn't really translate to american success, they were given free reign so long as they adapted it.

Bitch, the dub was hilarious and you know it.

But that's not the problem, the problem is Funimation's handbook saying any religious statements (one of the characters is a born-again Christian insulting a Jewish character) and sexual jokes (like... well, 75%+ of the dub) are against DA RULEZ. Everyone who took part in that "dub" should've been fired on the spot. But they weren't. Following that they also did those stupid Dragon Ball recordings, in character, which they also didn't get fired for, even though they clearly violated Funimation's employee handbook.

 

[Munchingonfish]

Bitch, the dub was hilarious and you know it.

But that's not the problem, the problem is Funimation's handbook saying any religious statements (one of the characters is a born-again Christian insulting a Jewish character) and sexual jokes (like... well, 75%+ of the dub) are against DA RULEZ. Everyone who took part in that "dub" should've been fired on the spot. But they weren't. Following that they also did those stupid Dragon Ball recordings, in character, which they also didn't get fired for, even though they clearly violated Funimation's employee handbook.

Funimation didn't produce Ghost Stories. That was made by ADV, another anime distributor out of Texas. Funimation's total gag dubs were for things like Shinchan but even that's not as extreme.

 

[Allanon]

Nobody likes their property being taken. Trademarks are things you have to defend. Toei isn't stupid. Letting people run around using your brand for profit or otherwise can be harmful to your ownership of said brand.

The usual solution to this for companies is actually that they pretend they don't know about it. They can't be obligated to protect a trademark from something they don't know about. Toei isn't doing something where their hand has been forced (as is the chronicle in several fanworks that got too big for their britches, hoped for official success, and kept pinging the company's attention until they got it...and a C&D) they're proactively going after TFS. It boils down to Toei not even trying to understand what DBZA is and whether it's hurtful or helpful to their brand. Of course, it's unlikely for them to hand out a limited license to them, which is one way to avoid weakened trademark, but pretending it doesn't exist is a reasonable excuse to run with, and usually what's done in such a situation.

There's several reasons Japanese companies tend to look the other way when it comes to doujins.

For one, they are strictly limited printings. This has obviously changed a bit with the advent of the internet and scans, but even then artists make disclaimers that it's not mean for redistribution. Another is that they make little to no money from doujins, a successful doujin is one in which you get the money back for print costs. Doujins are also a breeding ground for new talent. Let's just use Dragon Ball as an example. Dragon Ball Super manga, Dragon Ball SD manga, and the Yamcha reincarnation manga are all made by doujin artists that went professional. The latter Yamcha artists even used his fan artist pseudonym as he was that well known and popular. And lastly, what I think is the biggest difference is that outside of the use of the property, doujins are wholly original work as in they aren't manga panels or anime footage repurposed. I also imagine the fact that DBZA is made by foreigners also plays into it. But even Japanese "parodies" can be subject to scrutiny by rights holders in Japan.

It's not even like Japanese companies always turn a blind eye to doujins. There was a pretty notorious Pokemon doujin that involved beastiality. And it had gained so much notoriety that either Nintendo/Pokemon company sent a cease and desist to the artist to prevent further works.

I would also think Toei would disagree with your perception of DBZ as a property. Even as soon as GT stopped airing in Japan in 1996, various other countries are starting to air DBZ, notably the United States would do so. This sparks various new pieces of merchandise with Toei's property from toys to dvds to video games. In 2008 when DBZA starts to be posted, Japan is still releasing DB onto DVD for the first time.

Given how much Toei hates DBZA, these leaks should get Funimation into some shit with them. But I think if what Nick says is true and that they are receiving money for DBZA that will likely be the bigger issue.

Doujins aren't unique in that respect, though. Aside from the more famous cases of fanfic writers turning their story into an original thing and publishing it, it's somewhat common for fanfiction writers to ascend into official writing for whatever thing they write in - Star Trek novel writers often have a history of fanfiction, that Sailor Moon novelization was written by a fanfic writer, etc. Despite this, fanfiction often gets hammered by companies and authors who don't understand it's not harmful to them as well. It's only been since the late 90s that fanfiction has started to come into the sunlight and wasn't just hidden away in private email lists or password protected sites. I believe it was even in the 00s that someone - Anne Rice, I think? - was chasing around fanfiction hosting sites and threatening her fans with her lawyers, because she's crazy.

My point is that fanfiction is even more arguably a new work than doujins, because the only trademarked things they use are certain proper names and such, but they have had their own legal nightmares over the years for the same reason fan comics and visual parodies have and do. In the end it's a rights-holder feeling threatened by a fan creating something out of appreciation for their work, and is usually only resolved when it's determined it isn't a threat.

I imagine Toei probably did think them re-releasing DVDs was keeping interest in their dead horse, yes. But that doesn't make them right. From experience, I know that the dragonball community had just about dried up and died when DBZA (and some comic that ended up predicting the path Super would take) popped up and revitalized it. But that's my point re: Toei. They're out of touch and see something that is helping them, or at worst completely benign, as a threat.

I agree, though. If TFS is giving Funimation some kind of a kickback, that would put Funimation in Toei's sights first, if Funimation doesn't actually have sublicense rights. It would also be kind of interesting, as I've discussed in the past that TFS gives fans the impression that Funimation is essentially using those sublicense rights to protect them.

Just for reference, here's Sean's opinion about TFS
(starts of 0:22)

It's amazing how he can spew all this bullshit about TFS misusing "his"/Toei's character with full knowledge that he called people faggots in Goku's voice and then asked them if they wanted him to jerk off in their face and swallow his jizz.

Sean never had a problem with TFS being abusive or rude, he's always just been an insecure little baby about there being another English Goku that fans like.

 

[KF_jafo]

Funimation probably feels like they can't settle in a way that admits wrongdoing.

On the one hand, it screws them with SJWs, on the other, it's an admission of one more major fuck up to Toei.

Undoubtedly they do. But that's what you have writers and PR people for. They can talk about how they "believed women", but admit their investigation compromised the case. Pissing off SJW's is short-term pain. Surrendering to them in long-term pain (paging: Gillette).

And yes, it is a screw-up to Toei, but explaining you didn't know what these people were doing, and what a mistake it was to believe them shifts some blame. Is it enough to save the day? Who can tell.

But there's no doubt that staying the course as is is a lose-lose scenario.

 

[Bender]

Funimation didn't produce Ghost Stories. That was made by ADV, another anime distributor out of Texas. Funimation's total gag dubs were for things like Shinchan but even that's not as extreme.

Shit, I didn't know that, thanks for the correction. But it still had some current Funimation VAs taking part, if I'm not mistaken?

 

[Walk]

I think Funi is just playing the waiting game at this point. They think it's just gonna sweep itself under the rug eventually if they leave it alone.

I'm actually hard pressed that nobody brought up ghost stories (An old ass anime Monica Rial starred in which had a rather infamous dub thanks to Animax).

It was brought up several times.

 

[Somnius]

I think Funi is just playing the waiting game at this point. They think it's just gonna sweep itself under the rug eventually if they leave it alone.

It was brought up several times.

It's a shame that worst girl voiced best girl in Ghost Stories.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

He told me to imagine a cartoon of Mickey Mouse smoking crack while gnawing on human flesh and shouting about his love of Hitler

So basically this?

 

[lakyus]

It's a shame that worst girl voiced best girl in Ghost Stories.

While Momoko is best girl, Rial's performance as her was underwhelming to say the least. Easily one of the weakest.in the dub cast.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Shit, I didn't know that, thanks for the correction. But it still had some current Funimation VAs taking part, if I'm not mistaken?

They were technically "ADV" mainstays although no va is specifically "this studio" or that.

It also had pedophile Illich Guardiola as the father. There was a reference to Vic in the show too.

A lot of them played against type: Moronica as a hypocrite racist religious asshat, Christine Auten as a retarded little boy, Kira Vincent Davis as a horny teacher etc
You also had Chris Patton playing a horny straight guy, Shelley Calene-Black as the alpha bitch but with more seances and black magic, etc.

 

[AnOminous]

While Momoko is best girl, Rial's performance as her was underwhelming to say the least. Easily one of the weakest.in the dub cast.

Does Rial even have a voice other than just screeching like a prepubescent child?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Does Rial even have a voice other than just screeching like a prepubescent child?

Nyamo in Azumanga

Problem is that Monica has a very nasally sounding effect to her voice in general

 

[Allanon]

Does Rial even have a voice other than just screeching like a prepubescent child?

She voices Froppy, who has a mid-range voice aside from the croak.

 

[I can't imagine]

Shit, I didn't know that, thanks for the correction. But it still had some current Funimation VAs taking part, if I'm not mistaken?

ADV was based out of Houston, and Funimation is in the Dallas area. They're about 3-4 hours drive from each other, so many of the full-time VAs of the era worked for both. I believe Sabat exclusively worked for Funimation, and Schemmel did little or nothing for ADV, but did for other studios. All the other parties involved in this suit worked for both during the early-mid 2000's.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Bitch, the dub was hilarious and you know it.

But that's not the problem, the problem is Funimation's handbook saying any religious statements (one of the characters is a born-again Christian insulting a Jewish character) and sexual jokes (like... well, 75%+ of the dub) are against DA RULEZ. Everyone who took part in that "dub" should've been fired on the spot. But they weren't. Following that they also did those stupid Dragon Ball recordings, in character, which they also didn't get fired for, even though they clearly violated Funimation's employee handbook.

It’s pretty obvious that those rules apply only to employee interactions not explicitly related to their work. You’re either legitimately exceptional or intentionally disingenuous if you claim to not see the difference between cracking sexual jokes in the context of officially dubbing for a show, and cracking sexual jokes between coworkers while not “on the job”.

 

[AnOminous]

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Leaked Audio Shows 'Dragon Ball Z' Voice Actors Using Homophobic Slurs

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Leaked Audio Shows 'Dragon Ball Z' Voice Actors Using Homophobic Slurs

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Leaked audio clips from recording sessions of the popular anime Dragon Ball Z have gone viral for the worst reasons. Actors from the English dub can be heard using derogatory language, homophobic slurs, and setting up sexually inappropriate scenarios.

In one clip, you can hear the instantly recognizable voice of Goku asking, "Will you guys suck me off until I c*m all over your faces." Another reveals the actor behind the character, Sean Schemmel, jovially saying, "Hey look at those f*ggot-ass clothes. F*ggot. F*ggot. F*g. F*cking f*g. My son's a f*g."

Other members of the cast can be heard using words like "b*tch" and graphically joking about "butt f*cking," incest, and pedophilia as their DBZ characters.

According to GameRant, the voice actors were set to appear in the upcoming Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot game. It's believed that their parts have already been recorded but with this new controversy, the future of the game is unclear.

The DBZ franchise is owned by anime company Funimation, who is already in the throws of a scandalous legal battle with voice actor Vic Mignogna, who was fired after reports of sexual harassment, misconduct, and homophobia surfaced on set. He is now countersuing for defamation.

Neither Funimation or the voice actors have commented publically on the scandal at the time of publish.

 

[TheClappening]

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Why does this lawsuit train have no brakes? Like, fuck, it's like a maelstrom of idiocy, with no signs of stopping.

In the part you quoted, some inaccuracies: Vic isn't countersuing. He's just plain ol' suing.

Also throes, not throws.