Game of Thrones Thread

Cersei blowing up the Sept should straight up lead to the Kingsguard turning on her at the very fucking least. The way she 9/11 Hiroshimaisaki's the whole fucking city and kills the entire noble caste, as well as low hundreds of civilians, and nobody just does anything... wild shit. Especially when there were several scenes showing peasant revolts/riots/aggression in earlier seasons.

Early GoT seasons: Battlefield romance, hasty promises made to honorless nobles, and the simple maintaining of principles all lead to House Stark nearly being eradicated.

Late GoT seasons: Cersei can blow up the fantasy Vatican and lol with no consequences.
 
Cersei blowing up the Sept should straight up lead to the Kingsguard turning on her at the very fucking least. The way she 9/11 Hiroshimaisaki's the whole fucking city and kills the entire noble caste, as well as low hundreds of civilians, and nobody just does anything... wild shit. Especially when there were several scenes showing peasant revolts/riots/aggression in earlier seasons.
And if she doesn't get turned into minced meat by the Kingsguard, she'd just get strangled by any of her maids or the person that empties the chamber pots.
For fuck's sake, any noble house would instantly rise up in revolt against her after such a blow, even assuming King's Landing and everyone inside it would stay loyal (which they wouldn't) she'd be toast. But anyone not a main character suddenly stopped being relevant at that point.

Just imagine how this would look to an outsider:
The Great Sept explodes with members of every noble family of Westeros alligned with Baratheon/Lannister inside and a significant chunk of the city going up in flames.
The King dies at the same time.
Cersei crowns herself Queen.

Yeah, no one would call shenanigans here and rise up in arms.
 
And if she doesn't get turned into minced meat by the Kingsguard, she'd just get strangled by any of her maids or the person that empties the chamber pots.
For fuck's sake, any noble house would instantly rise up in revolt against her after such a blow, even assuming King's Landing and everyone inside it would stay loyal (which they wouldn't) she'd be toast. But anyone not a main character suddenly stopped being relevant at that point.

Just imagine how this would look to an outsider:
The Great Sept explodes with members of every noble family of Westeros alligned with Baratheon/Lannister inside and a significant chunk of the city going up in flames.
The King dies at the same time.
Cersei crowns herself Queen.

Yeah, no one would call shenanigans here and rise up in arms.

I could have accepted a scenario where Cersei manages to plot her way out of suffering retribution for what she did. Heck, the High Sparrow needed to be taken out for any number of reasons -- maybe you even pin the blame on him and his fanatical cult somehow. What I couldn't tolerate was that, barring one scene early in season 7 where Jaime stares at the wreckage, the destruction of the Sept is basically never mentioned again.
 
I could have accepted a scenario where Cersei manages to plot her way out of suffering retribution for what she did. Heck, the High Sparrow needed to be taken out for any number of reasons -- maybe you even pin the blame on him and his fanatical cult somehow. What I couldn't tolerate was that, barring one scene early in season 7 where Jaime stares at the wreckage, the destruction of the Sept is basically never mentioned again.
Yeah, GoT went from a show that pays attention to detail and where everything has a logical conclusion that takes into account that the world isn't just limited to the main characters and a few named or unnamed NPCs bumbling around in the background to a show where things just happen so the plot can move along, where the most unavoidable, logical reaction to a certain scene just never happens and where things that should have setting-wide immediate effects just sorta end up doing nothing.

It went from being a show with very believable setting that is built on logic rather than tropes to being on the level of a shitty 80s cartoon in terms of consistency.
 

"Men would sooner put the realm to the torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne."

*pukes*
All of that looks like a lame ripoff of itself.

"History does not remember blood, it remembers names"
Motherfucker, we don't even know what Atilla the Huns name was (hint: it wasn't Atilla), but we remember his eurasian carnage vacation.
This writing sucks ass and if it's George's I want him to retire and run his gay cinema or whatever he wastes his time on instead of finishing SoIaF.
It impossible for me to be less hyped, and I loved (the first seasons of) Game of Thrones.
Fuck.
 
This writing sucks ass and if it's George's I want him to retire and run his gay cinema or whatever he wastes his time on instead of finishing SoIaF.
I think he bought a stream train, I don't fuckin' know.

"Men would sooner put the realm to the torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne."

*pukes*

I bet these writers will only look at the surface stuff and think 'THEY DENY HER BECAUSE SHE WOMAN' and ignore the fact the whole thing is a proxy war between the Hightowers and Velaryons over whose heirs get to sit on the Iron Throne
 
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Welp, we've done it guys. The fandom has hit rock bottom.
 
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Why does Preston keep making videos with that Carmine faggot? Half the videos are Carmine being a complete idiot and the other half Preston having to explain things to him like to a 5 year old.
He makes Preston feel smart

I was also told that a lot of the GOT/ASOIAF community outside of his little bubble find him intolerable.
 
Just imagine how this would look to an outsider:
The Great Sept explodes with members of every noble family of Westeros alligned with Baratheon/Lannister inside and a significant chunk of the city going up in flames.
The King dies at the same time.
Cersei crowns herself Queen.

Yeah, no one would call shenanigans here and rise up in arms.
They just forgot when Cersei and even Joffrey were booed and heckled during season/book 2 only because there was no food in the city. And many of them were obviously mad at the Lannisters being now in power instead of House Baratheon to the point some claimed for Stannis and even Robb Stark. The whole deal with the food was the tipping point. They insulted Cersei, called her a whore and Joff, a bastard. They didn't care that he was their King, they hated him and could have killed him if they got the chance.

You are right. I remember a history podcast mentioned once how plebs would forgive their rulers many things, but never having a different religion. This is the equivalent of Merkel or Macron blowing up a Church. People would NEVER forgive that and it'd be even a worse sin in the eyes of medieval peasants. And it was equally stupid when they pretended that the Dothrakis would follow Dany after she burned down their sacred place too. It'd be like someone going to the Vatican during Christmas, blowing it up, and then expecting Catholics would follow them next as their new Pope.

They seem to believe that what people enjoyed about Got were the punchlines, terrible wig and absence of lighting.

Not quite.
A lot of normie watchers did. You could show them a character randomly stabbing another one, then pissing all over their body and raping it afterwards and they would jerk off at it screaming "BEST TV EVER! BEST TV EVER!!". Blame HBO for this, but most of these people never actually understood what made ASOIAF different from other fantasy stories and they reather thought it was the vulgarity and violence.

I was also told that a lot of the GOT/ASOIAF community outside of his little bubble find him intolerable.
Yep, I used to lurk westeros.org and they don't like the guy because he's the fandom equivalent of a conspiracy theorist.
 
Yep, I used to lurk westeros.org and they don't like the guy because he's the fandom equivalent of a conspiracy theorist.
They must be thrilled about his little Winds of Winter fanfiction project he's outsourcing to his subscribers.
 
They must be thrilled about his little Winds of Winter fanfiction project he's outsourcing to his subscribers.
I didn't know this, but megalol. I mean, if it was anyone else, I'd even participate because GRRM has been clear that all the hints are there and it's really not that hard to elaborate what's coming. But Preston is the kind of guy who absolutely refuses to believe this and thinks everything is a secret conspiracy that has layers and layers of foreshadowing.
 
The show's biggest error was cutting out Aegon VI/faegon. Without him a lot of the King's Landing stuff simply doesn't work. The breakdown of the Lannister-Tyrell alliance, the sparrow movement, Kevan's death, etc... are all clearly leading to a Targaryen restoration and the Lannisters being booted from the capital.

This also meant Daenerys had an "evil" enemy to fight, as opposed to a popular young king. Daenerys I do believe will be seen as a foreigner and despised in Westeros(there are already vicious rumors about her in the books), and she's coming with foreign barbarians, freed slaves, and the absolute most wretched elements of Westerosi society-Tyrion and Jorah(assuming she takes him back). Without this, there is no reason for Daenerys to be rejected, and the plot simply does everything possible to keep Cersei alive to the last two episodes.

Aegon and to a lesser extent Stoneheart are a lot of the reason the show went wrong, character arcs derailed, and the conclusion was such a mess.
 
And it was equally stupid when they pretended that the Dothrakis would follow Dany after she burned down their sacred place too. It'd be like someone going to the Vatican during Christmas, blowing it up, and then expecting Catholics would follow them next as their new Pope.
Well, in that case I can give the writers some leeway, after all, when you see someone burning down your old gods and said person just takes a leisurely stroll through the still raging blaze, that does kinda put a dent on your believe in the old gods.
And lest we forget: She managed to breed three dragons.
A lot of normie watchers did. You could show them a character randomly stabbing another one, then pissing all over their body and raping it afterwards and they would jerk off at it screaming "BEST TV EVER! BEST TV EVER!!". Blame HBO for this, but most of these people never actually understood what made ASOIAF different from other fantasy stories and they reather thought it was the vulgarity and violence.
That's actually one of the reasons why it took me so long to get into the show. People recommended it to me based on it having nudity and gore. Nothing wrong with nudity and gore, but when a show gets hyped to hell and back and all people can bring up is "boobs and blood" when asked why, that doesn't get me interested.
 
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