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White Devil said:
More proof Ian is a gigantic faggot. This isn't the first time either.
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I've been told he recently bought a beat MAS-36 with a super rare pre-production bolt, swapped it into one of his very nice MASes then reauctioned the resulting beat gun. Honestly that was just funny.

With the auctions he walks a very fine line. If he's buying stuff and reselling it just to do a review, enh okay I guess. People will overpay to have an Ian gun but that's nothing new. If he's misrepresenting the goods then hell naw. The line's very fine though.

His auction house videos have always had a big element of trying to pump up that lot in the auction, and that's... sure a thing.

I still think though all this is iffy the RTI junkpile was the scummiest thing he's done.
 
White Devil said:
More proof Ian is a gigantic faggot. This isn't the first time either.
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I'd say that thread is full of gigantic faggots while Ian did some risky opportunist bullshit. He clearly doesn't need the deep asskissing or cries of "CAPITALISM" they provide.
I'll second the advertising of RTI being much more heinous since instead of ripping off one guy he potentially assists in ripping off hundreds.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
I'd say that thread is full of gigantic faggots while Ian did some risky opportunist bullshit. He clearly doesn't need the deep asskissing or cries of "CAPITALISM" they provide.
I'll second the advertising of RTI being much more heinous since instead of ripping off one guy he potentially assists in ripping off hundreds.
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This also comes back around to what we were discussing earlier about how the buyer is ultimately the one responsible for the purchase, someone bought that rifle because to0 them it was worth that much. How much liability the Internet Man has is up for debate although it is at least a small amount, but at the end of the day it's still the buyer shelling out the cash of their own volition.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
This also comes back around to what we were discussing earlier about how the buyer is ultimately the one responsible for the purchase, someone bought that rifle because to0 them it was worth that much. How much liability the Internet Man has is up for debate although it is at least a small amount, but at the end of the day it's still the buyer shelling out the cash of their own volition.
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no ian is at my house right now and making me buy 1869 Sacrebleu rifles from Uganda (:_(
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
This also comes back around to what we were discussing earlier about how the buyer is ultimately the one responsible for the purchase, someone bought that rifle because to0 them it was worth that much. How much liability the Internet Man has is up for debate although it is at least a small amount, but at the end of the day it's still the buyer shelling out the cash of their own volition.
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Celebrity premium buys of anything are fucking retarded. Sometimes it's a durable bump, the whole 'provenance' thing but it's heavily dependent on how big that person is right now.
 
I wonder if in the future we'll see actual gun makers selling more or less mundane general production guns at a premium as 'Ian McCollum editions' with gaudy FW engravings on them the same way you'll see 1911s named for some boomer gunwriter like Wiley Clapp.
 
Iceland Heavy said:
I wonder if in the future we'll see actual gun makers selling more or less mundane general production guns at a premium as 'Ian McCollum editions' with gaudy FW engravings on them the same way you'll see 1911s named for some boomer gunwriter like Wiley Clapp.
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Instead of Ducks Unlimited and Pheasants Forever editions we'll get guntuber editions. Jesus Christ I want to die.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
This also comes back around to what we were discussing earlier about how the buyer is ultimately the one responsible for the purchase, someone bought that rifle because to0 them it was worth that much. How much liability the Internet Man has is up for debate although it is at least a small amount, but at the end of the day it's still the buyer shelling out the cash of their own volition.
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Guns have always attracted people with "fuck you" money and, with the concept of simps on the rise, I wouldn't be surprised if people overpaid on auctions solely because Ian's fingerprints were on them. I don't mean to rag on him personally, I just mean buying with intent to sell is always a risky proposition along the lines of his views on "investing" - short term or long term, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
 
Iceland Heavy said:
I wonder if in the future we'll see actual gun makers selling more or less mundane general production guns at a premium as 'Ian McCollum editions' with gaudy FW engravings on them the same way you'll see 1911s named for some boomer gunwriter like Wiley Clapp.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, we're HALFWAY THERE
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Guns have always attracted people with "fuck you" money and, with the concept of simps on the rise, I wouldn't be surprised if people overpaid on auctions solely because Ian's fingerprints were on them. I don't mean to rag on him personally, I just mean buying with intent to sell is always a risky proposition along the lines of his views on "investing" - short term or long term, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
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And frankly if a guy buys low and sells high that's kinda the point isn't it?
Mikoyan said:
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, we're HALFWAY THERE
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For all the shit we give the WWSD rifles the fact that the guys successfully pooled their resources, got their shit together, built a product as promised, marketed said product effectively, and made a good amount of money on it is all pretty commendable. And at the end of the day the WWSD may not be the wunderwaffe that the marketing promised but it's not like the thing's a bad rifle.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
And frankly if a guy buys low and sells high that's kinda the point isn't it?

For all the shit we give the WWSD rifles the fact that the guys successfully pooled their resources, got their shit together, built a product as promised, marketed said product effectively, and made a good amount of money on it is all pretty commendable. And at the end of the day the WWSD may not be the wunderwaffe that the marketing promised but it's not like the thing's a bad rifle.
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I genuinely like my KP-15s. (Thanks Russell!) and I combine them with uppers I build. I actually really like the concept.

The full build rifles are trading a bit on the personalities involved though.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
And frankly if a guy buys low and sells high that's kinda the point isn't it?
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There's also the entire concept of what "low" or "high" is with a low sample size, the rifle was not exactly swimming in waffenampts and Rommel didn't leave a missing page of his memoirs under the buttstock. I've been out of the milsurp scene for many years now but 2.5k for a stunted Mauser, with a mismatched bolt to boot, seems a tiny bit high.

Sleazy Car Salesman said:
marketed said product effectively
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Russell is probably going to bitch, but I do remember seeing that they're not selling out. To the point where more colors are considered a waste of investment.
 
Mikoyan said:
Celebrity premium buys of anything are fucking retarded. Sometimes it's a durable bump, the whole 'provenance' thing but it's heavily dependent on how big that person is right now.
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Hey, I'd love to have one of james earl jones' guns. IIRC he has owned most (if not all) of the Walther WA2000's ever imported at one point. Lots of rare old pistols too.
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Now I'm wondering if I should flip the copy of Pistols of the Warlords I'm getting from the Kickstarter. Culture wars are there to be cashed in on.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Russell is probably going to bitch, but I do remember seeing that they're not selling out. To the point where more colors are considered a waste of investment.
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I think that expecting them to sell out would be a bit :optimistic: but given the general oversaturation of the AR market as a whole they've carved a decent little niche and having Brownell's as a distributor is pretty good.
 
Only A Retard Sometimes said:
Hey, I'd love to have one of james earl jones' guns. IIRC he has owned most (if not all) of the Walther WA2000's ever imported at one point. Lots of rare old pistols too.
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That would be one of my exceptions as well.

One of the others, tangentially related, is I keep an eye out to see if any of the Sledge Hammer 629s show up.
 
Mikoyan said:
I've been told he recently bought a beat MAS-36 with a super rare pre-production bolt, swapped it into one of his very nice MASes then reauctioned the resulting beat gun. Honestly that was just funny.

With the auctions he walks a very fine line. If he's buying stuff and reselling it just to do a review, enh okay I guess. People will overpay to have an Ian gun but that's nothing new. If he's misrepresenting the goods then hell naw. The line's very fine though.
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It's also on the auction house to be honest on what they're selling. Sure, they're going to try to spruce things up and make the gun sound more attractive, but if the only "special" thing about the gun after the bolt was swapped is "briefly owned by Ian "Gun Jesus" McCollumn of ForgottenWeapons.com" then that's all they can mention.

Regardless, the guy is still a private citizen and a gun collector. If you don't like him or his practices, and you don't trust his honesty or expertise in his videos, don't bid on shit he advertises there. There are a lot of guns sold in those auctions that you'll never know about unless someone tells you or you go digging through their catalogue yourself.

ETA: let me also second (third? Fourth?) the RTI thing as being a lot scummier than that auction trick.

WhoBusTank69 said:
Well that's a double whammy at that point. You're paying for a WA2000 that was also owned by Darth Vader.
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Not gonna lie, that would be pretty fucking sweet.
 
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