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Feels Badman said:
I think a decent percentage of mtfs are also narcs who do it for the social power it gives them, and/or because their sense of identity is inherently unstable. See: Philosophy Tube, IT'S MA'AM guy, Dylan Mulvaney, etc. Can't think of any more right now that I'm 100% certain have NPD, since many are subclinical narcissists who don't meet the diagnostic criteria, and it makes the T&H NPD havers harder to spot.
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Imagine being able to shame even the most powerful members of society into bending the knee and using your made-up pronouns. If I had nothing else going on in life, ie. a sane mind and reasonable goals, I'd probably do that too. However, the jew-approved countermove is to make your company logo a rainbow for 2 weeks and moving on with your life.

You know, staring a troon in the face and saying "ma'am", only for him to run home and cry on bluesky that despite using his pronouns, he could tell from the gaze/smell/aura/vibe/ether that he didn't approve!!
 
3X0D14 said:
pretty much. been hatewatching it for awhile and it falls into these categories:
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I like what you've done with that post! I agree with someone above that it's possible to see a mix of these types. I'd like to add on one more that fits both FTM and MTF.
The depressed life-fix/egg: A person (often a teenager or early 20s) who is deeply depressed and/or suicidal and gets told that transitioning is the magic fix by weirdos on the internet. The affirmation hugbox traps them from the moment they start questioning. Shockingly, transition does not solve depression, the person takes more steps (sometimes medical) which amplify the misery.
 
Another way Current Year is different from before: how "transgenders" try to make that which is not inherently "transgender" into "transgender", or at least associated with. For example, before Current Year anime was just anime. Now it's "tranime" to anime haters because Western fans may have gained a reputation of being "transgenders" nowadays.
 
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Levitcus prime24 said:
should be noted that most troon begin this road when they were kids with unrestricted internet access
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Like I said, there has been porn before Current Year, yet there wasn't this "astroturfed" "transgender" epidemic. However, there was also no "smartphones" and "social media" before Current Year, and kids didn't have unlimited internet either. And like I said, I suspect there's something different about Clown World porno that pushes "trooning"...
 
Posted this in the DID thread but trans people are taking over the DID scene.

GenociderSyo

Post in thread 'Plurals / Clusters / Systems'

There is a CEU conference for social workers coming up run by a DID organization that appears to be more trans then DID now. This conference is also for therapists who diagnose themselves as DID and has seminars on how to come out to their supervisors. There are so many attendees that they are able to run 6 to 8 seminars concurrently.

Some examples of their seminars include meeting with other therapists who HAVE DID, self-care being bad, how to write gender letters (Even if you have not met the client), many BIPOC seminars, how to get all the support you need with your clinical...
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What kind of "logic" do the loony of the left use to claim that "transgender" and HRT among kids "isn't sexual"?

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Despite what coping troons claim, their value IS tied to their appearance. They are mentally ill freaks whose main value is being a sexual object. And maybe menial labor, but being an eyecandy hooker is primary. Troons do secretly understand this, and that's why they rope if they think they're unable to fulfill this.
Troons being coders is very ironic because coding was originally seen as desk job for those pesky wahmen.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
So-called "trans women" are women like how a duck who "identifies as a chicken" is a chicken.
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Hi, I would like to qualify this as being posted with absolute sarcasm and in the context of a bunch of pictures from an instagram post about trans women belonging in women’s history month. Thanks!
 
Ah the perfect thread for this.


I guess this guy thought he might be trans. Then found some information on trans shit, and decided to make this video? I really have no idea. I just happened to stumble onto it.


Here's another one of their videos.

Just a warning. His editing is extremely annoying in all of them it seems like.

 
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I personally don't think all "transgender" people are as bad as the freaks who do mass shootings: a number are just in denial of biological reality, rather than also scummy.

(Or at least I hope it's that way.)
 
I always believed there to be a difference between troons and genuine transsexuals. There are the very small amount of transsexuals who simply transition and live their life solely as their preferred gender. I have no issue with someone who looks like a woman, sounds like a woman, and just wants to live their life and not flaunt it around to me (similar goes with homosexuality). My main issue is with the narcissism that a lot of AGP's have, wearing pride flags as if being transgender is something to be proud of. I think in a perfect world there would be no transgenderism (and especially no autogynephiliacs..), but currently I cannot think of a better solution for the mental disorder than AGP's killing themselves and real transsexuals just living their lives out in secret.
 
I've been aware of the AGP tranny menace for years and years, but only ever saw them online. Fairly recently I saw one in person. Then another. Then another. And then another! These disgusting greasy haired fat cunts in pink are fucking everywhere now!
 
dehumanizebodyandsoul said:
I always believed there to be a difference between troons and genuine transsexuals.
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Troons transition due to autogynephilia, "genuine transexuals" do so because they believe they have gender dysphoria. But neither of these should be remedied with transitioning, as that would just be affirming the delusions they have. You do not tell an anorexic that they're fat, or a schizophrenic that the voices are actually real. Hell, you do not even tell people with body dysmorphia that they really present in the way they believe they look. And yet we simply cater to trans people for completely arbitrary reasons.

Gender dysphoria should be treated the same as body dysmorphia, because they really are the same thing. There is no need to make a distinction for the same disorder just because one happens to be focused on sex characteristics, which are still part of the body as a whole.
 
MC2 said:
Troons transition due to autogynephilia, "genuine transexuals" do so because they believe they have gender dysphoria. But neither of these should be remedied with transitioning, as that would just be affirming the delusions they have. You do not tell an anorexic that they're fat, or a schizophrenic that the voices are actually real. Hell, you do not even tell people with body dysmorphia that they really present in the way they believe they look. And yet we simply cater to trans people for completely arbitrary reasons.

Gender dysphoria should be treated the same as body dysmorphia, because they really are the same thing. There is no need to make a distinction for the same disorder just because one happens to be focused on sex characteristics, which are still part of the body as a whole.
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I can agree that there are similarities between gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia. However to blanketly assume they are the exact same and should be treated the same seems without reason to me. Gender dysphoria is a decently well-studied phenomena, you can even see where intersex people need specific hormones in order to alleviate it. To claim it needs to be treated in the same way as other mental disorders seems odd to me given you do not treat any mental disorder the same. You do not treat a schizophrenic the same way you would a person with DID, etc. This is applying solely to the minute amount of people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria (probably like 1% of transgenders) and not AGP's.
 
dehumanizebodyandsoul said:
I can agree that there are similarities between gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia. However to blanketly assume they are the exact same and should be treated the same seems without reason to me. Gender dysphoria is a decently well-studied phenomena, you can even see where intersex people need specific hormones in order to alleviate it. To claim it needs to be treated in the same way as other mental disorders seems odd to me given you do not treat any mental disorder the same. You do not treat a schizophrenic the same way you would a person with DID, etc. This is applying solely to the minute amount of people who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria (probably like 1% of transgenders) and not AGP's.
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Needing some type of gender-affirming treatment if you're intersex makes sense, because in that case you are either a male or female with a deformity of the sex characteristics. In the case of regular, healthy people who obsess over perceived and delusional flaws in their appearance, I don't see how the two disorders are not practically the same. I see GD as nothing but a special distinction medical institutions have made for people with BDD that affects the sex characteristics. People with BDD will still take drastic actions to alleviate their dissatisfaction with their looks, much the same as people with GD do (transitioning).

You can argue that I'm being reductive by lumping both disorders into one. My main point is that the difference in how medical institutions treat both of these disorders is stupid. GD isn't even classified as a mental illness, and the treatment is to affirm their delusions by any means necessary, even if it does not improve their mental state whatsoever. BDD patients are encouraged to do the opposite and not facilitate their delusions. You might not treat two disorders the exact same, but to have these wildly differing treatments for two incredibly similar conditions seems silly to me.
It is impossible to change your biological sex, anyone with a brain knows this. I don't care how small the amount of people who genuinely have this disorder is, why should something impossible be promoted and encouraged, even when people will instinctively know that they are not what they are presenting as?
 
MC2 said:
My main point is that the difference in how medical institutions treat both of these disorders is stupid.
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I agree with this. I believe too many institutions do push this ideology onto people, I believe it to be one of the main reasons why AGP's are as frequent as they are and why they are popping up so much. It is absolutely encouraged by the kikes at big medical facilities to push these drugs onto people who most definitely do not suffer from gender dysphoria.
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why should something impossible be promoted and encouraged, even when people will instinctively know that they are not what they are presenting as?
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I generally do not believe it should be. I do think that there are a few amount of transgender people who live very regular lives after transitioning which does cure their gender dysphoria. I have known many AGP's who transition and never feel better, those people will never truly be happy and never should have been prescribed anything. I however also know one friend who now completely lives a normal life as a man. This is anecdotal at best, but I have seen him get substantially happier through transition, which I think at least proves to me that there is some merit to attempting to cure it this way. Again, I agree entirely that it should not be pushed, encouraged, or even promoted, but as a last resort I think it can be a viable option for those people who genuinely do suffer from the mental disorder.
 
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