Global warming/Climate change thread - is it real or bullshit?

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Yikes

Gretta is just a uglier, better rehearsed stage monkey rich people use to pat themselves on the back on how good they are.

All her speeches are the equivalent to this:

 

[Male Idiot]

Fake. Were it a real issue, (((those))) who run the world would put pressure on the polluting 3rd world to stop.

But strangely they only want to tax the richer western nations and whitey. Thus they don't want to solve the problem, and that leads you to the conclusion that the problem is made up.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Climate change is nothing more than an excuse for corporations to be allowed to pollute is completely destroy the environmental movement and if the climate is changing we have the solution we've had it since the 50s it's called nuclear power

 

[FunPosting101]

Climate Change is quite real, we're too late to prevent or reverse it(and the cost of doing so was always too high anyway), and we're simply going to have to learn how to cope with it and live in a world that is significantly warmer than it was in the past.

 

[Sincere Sinner]

I feelthe left/right partisan politics surrounding climate change is due to the fact that the issue was argued in extraordinarily bad faith.

Waggling fingers at westerners for not owning a fuel efficient car or for eating meat wears very thin while "Greens" politicians jet set around the world. Climate change is yet another bludgeon directed at our way of life, yet at the same time we are turning a blind eye to the insane destruction, waste, and consumption of developing behemoths like India & China.

The idea that the right wing shouldnt concern itself with environmental issues is one Ill always push back against. Whats the point in family or your traditional values if that same family is set to inherit a doomed world? Theres no reason a sensible bipartisan decision on climate change couldnt be made if the arguement was pursued in good faith. Alas, that time has come and passed and we are pretty firmly fucked.

 

[Male Idiot]

Even the worst predictions wouldn't doom the world.

Earth had been much warmer before, and Mr Croc is still here.

 

[Billy Beer]

I was told in the 90's that an acre of Amazon rainforest disappears every 3 seconds, and unless we did something, we would all be dead by 2010.

Well, the only thing we did was cut rainforest down quicker for consumerism and w're still here.

And nature is on our side. If we pump more C02 in to the atmosphere, trees and shit grow quicker and stronger, pumping out more 02 to balance it.

TL;DR - stop panicing, everything will be fine.

 

[McMitch]

I was told in the 90's that an acre of Amazon rainforest disappears every 3 seconds, and unless we did something, we would all be dead by 2010.

Well, the only thing we did was cut rainforest down quicker for consumerism and w're still here.

And nature is on our side. If we pump more C02 in to the atmosphere, trees and shit grow quicker and stronger, pumping out more 02 to balance it.

TL;DR - stop panicing, everything will be fine.

The biggest lie of the Amazon was that it was a major factor in reducing C02. They’re already declaring the Amazon as a net producer of CO2, after only losing less than 20%. Mathematically speaking, that means the Amazon at best could have scrubbed less than 20% of its total CO2 production at its peak!

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

I see a lot of retarded takes here in the farm but the idea that climate change is fake or a new thing being forcefed the public is one of the dumbest.

It is a real things. I personally think it's morally reprehensible to mindlessly pollute while it's causing so many destructions but even if you don't, the magnitude of the incoming changes will cause and uproar and you won't be able to deny it forever.

Climate change is indeed bad, because we and everything we eat and love and take for granted evolved to adapt to certains conditions that are gonna be modified. Biotopes are fragile things. The rising sea levels means some costal places will be flooded. It means some of our houses, our cities may not gonna livable in a not-so-distant futur. It means food shortages. It means more displaced populations and refugees. More poverty and homelessness in the us. More social unrest everywhere.

The thing is: the climate of the 70's, 90's, even the climate we are experiencing this year, is gone. This likely is the coldest year you will ever experience. The futur is gonna be warmer (or maybe colder, only locally and for eurofags if the Gulf Stream go tits up).
But every degree we save is relevant and meaningfull and is gonna save lifes. Preserving what can be preserved can make a huge difference, even if things are gonna change anyway.

I get that the medias may be presenting the issue is a stupid way but just because the messenger is an retard doesn't mean the issue being presented isn't worth your attention. You don't have to love Greta, it doesn't mean that Sperg doesn't have a point.
Just watch less TV, you know your tv is garbage already. You can't complain in good faith about something if only tv and social medias told you about it and you should know this. Read scientific magazines or ask your local ecology major.

The climate warming will also translate politically. When so many thing go bad, the political landscape is gonna worsen too. It's important that citizen tackle this issue before. Some practices, some hobbies, whole industries and lifestyles are gonna disapear anyway, it would be best if the citizen decided which one via the democratic process rather than an authoritarian government doing it for you.

Whatever happens, you will have to reduce your carbon footprint. You likely won't have a choice. Try and adapt now so you are ready.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

I see a lot of exceptional takes here in the farm but the idea that climate change is fake or a new thing being forcefed the public is one of the dumbest.

It is a real things.

And it is indeed bad, because we and everything we eat and love and take for granted evolved to adapt to certains conditions that are gonna be modified. Biotopes are fragile things. The rising sea levels means some costal places will be flooded. It means some of our houses, our cities may not gonna livable in a not-so-distant futur. It means food shortages. It means more displaced populations and refugees. More poverty and homelessness in the us. More social unrest everywhere.

The thing is: the climate of the 70's, 90's, even the climate we are experiencing this year, is gone. This likely is the coldest year you will ever experience. The futur is gonna be warmer (or maybe colder, only locally and for eurofags if the Gulf Stream go tits up).
But every degree we save is relevant and meaningfull and is gonna save lifes. Preserving what can be preserved can make a huge difference, even if things, indeed, are gonna change.

I get that the medias may be presenting the issue is a stupid way but just because the messenger is a exceptional individual doesn't mean the issue being presented isn't worth your attention. You don't have to love Greta, it doesn't mean that Sperg doesn't have a point.
Just watch less TV, you know your tv is garbage already. You can't complain in good faith about something if only tv and social medias told you about it and you should know this. Read scientific magazines or ask your local ecology major.

The climate warming will also translate politically. When so many thing go bad, the political landscape is gonna worsen too. It's important that citizen tackle this issue before. Some practices, some hobbies, whole industries and lifestyles are gonna disapear anyway, it would be best if the citizen decided which one via the democratic process rather than an authoritarian government doing it for you.

Thoughts on the ongoing GSM?

 

[FatalTater]

Remember back in the 70's and 80's when it was widely known that the large factories belching smoke and dumping waste in the waterways was the problem?

I remember.

Then in the late 80's, early 90's there was this media push to make the individual citizen feel like they had to "do something." Buy items made from recycled goods, don't use styrofoam, put cans and bottles in bins labelled for recyling.

When luxury cruises are outlawed globally because of how much they pollute, I might take it seriously. Until then I will use plastic straws and feel no guilt.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Remember back in the 70's and 80's when it was widely known that the large factories belching smoke and dumping waste in the waterways was the problem?

I remember.

Then in the late 80's, early 90's there was this media push to make the individual citizen feel like they had to "do something." Buy items made from recycled goods, don't use styrofoam, put cans and bottles in bins labelled for recyling.

When luxury cruises are outlawed globally because of how much they pollute, I might take it seriously. Until then I will use plastic straws and feel no guilt.

And I'm gonna keep driving my V8 powered luxury boat until it's unreasonable to do so. It gets 25-29 mpg so it ain't all that inefficient.

 

[Without A Gout]

The thing is that climate is always changing, it's the nature of a planetary ecosystem. This planet has gone through multiple ice ages, temperature increases, and more. The unpredictability in weather is a side effect of a natural change in a climate (how much is affected by man? We honestly don't know). I think there is more we can do, but it's an issue more to do with massive overpopulation than our way of life. No one is talking about that, unsurprisingly.

Just people lecturing us all about how we're terrible for not giving up the fruits of our labor while they fly around in private jets and emit more carbon than any of us could in years.

Why not do this lecturing to China and India? Or is that because they'd laugh at you and scoff at it?

 

[McMitch]

The thing is that climate is always changing, it's the nature of a planetary ecosystem. This planet has gone through multiple ice ages, temperature increases, and more. The unpredictability in weather is a side effect of a natural change in a climate (how much is affected by man? We honestly don't know). I think there is more we can do, but it's an issue more to do with massive overpopulation than our way of life. No one is talking about that, unsurprisingly.

Just people lecturing us all about how we're terrible for not giving up the fruits of our labor while they fly around in private jets and emit more carbon than any of us could in years.

Why not do this lecturing to China and India? Or is that because they'd laugh at you and scoff at it?

The way the elites handle climate change are what convinced me that anthropogenic climate change is, at best, completely overblown. If they actually think it would affect them, they would be a lot less hypocritical regarding it. Anyone who takes any non-immediate environmental effects seriously is deluding themselves.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

a somewhat legit issue that will be used as an excuse for the governments of the world to take away our rights.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

I really dig Obama's new house on the beach.

 

[cwcville]

idk what's worse, the effects of climate change or the effects of climate change activists.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Do humans have an effect on the place we live? Undeniable. When you start to look at the raw numbers of things we consume and burn, I don't see how you could say otherwise. I think the issue is larger than just climate issues though. What makes people jaded is when they hear about rivers in Asia dumping a million tons of plastic straight into the ocean every year, but not a peep from the mainstream, or how everything was moved out of our backyard overseas where there is even less control on pollution. How is that not disturbing? Woopee shit we banned straws, but what about the Yellow River mainlining plastic into our waters? Of course "the media" is silent about this. I think the politicians have really ruined how people feel about looking after the planet though, they mixed their sliminess into something that people should reasonably think about, and be concerned about. Now when I hear about govt's doing things for "the climate" I wonder how much pork is crammed into these "climate saving bills" for their friends and benefactors.

I think as a species we better figure out this space thing fast, because it doesn't look like slowing down consumption is something we can do. It's baked into economic growth.

 

[Billy Beer]

If the climate was in such a sorry state then we would swap from back from plastic to glass, stop creating products with planned obscelesence, stop flying around in private jets all over the world, ban pets (biggest contributor to carbon footprint in the west) and most importantly, stop using pointless technology for the sake of it. For example, I see a van parked up on Tesco car park, with an electronic billboard on it, powered by a diesel generator, advertising shite. We don't need that, nobody needs it. Yet it sits there 24/7 running a diesel genny for no fucking reason at all.

When that shit changes, i'll worry about the climate.

 

[Lemmingwise]

If you want a global, one world government, you need global problems for it to tackle.

Global warming is the perfect way to distract from local pollutions and instead blackmail western nations to pay money for china to build more coal powerplants.