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- May 1, 2021
God is foundational in the formation of America. While Christian fundamentalism is the religion du jour for the US, it isn't necessarily true that it needs to be so. The Declaration of Independence says, "...the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..." making it quite clear that even if things change and it isn't Christianity anymore, you still need to regard the fundamentals of nature's design when creating a functional and fair society and its policies. While I will give reasons for Christian fundamentalism in America, it is important to realize that the point I am making here is the founding fathers determined the fundamentality of human liberty is so paramount that the language needs to be vague enough to not be easily dismissed. Put simply, we cannot dismiss this line of the declaration because it follows any specific teaching or denomination, it very forwardly reminds us that these are laws of nature no matter what perspective you take.
In God We Trust
One Nation, Under God
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
“...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”
Most people would agree that we are born with free will. Any form of antitheism or atheism would have to obey this simple reality because their system of perception cannot support fate or destiny. Christian faiths posits that God has His plan for each of us, but that free will is given to man to pursue his destiny. The point is that no matter who you are, it's very difficult to argue that humans are not fundamentally free and unrestricted at birth. Yes, a baby has dependency on its parents, but natural dependencies are not the same as restricting your God-given freedoms.
It is important to know that no man can free you, he can only set you back. By law and virtue of nature, you are able to do anything your body and mind allows for and by that simple fact alone we can recognize that humans are fundamentally free. For a government or authority or anyone to tell you that your freedom is a privilege and not a given is an outright lie and a failure to recognize both nature and God. Ignoring nature and God has brought us to where we are today. The most powerful people in the world completely reject the possibility that life has meaning (or at least, they never touch the topic or make it a public issue, while constantly pushing that life is totally random and meaningless), that each person is sacred in their own right, and that God-given facts of life are protected.
So why God? Why not naturalism or humanism or rationalism or Science™? Why not Islam? It's simple. Christianity is the foundation of America, which is (or has been lol) the pillar of freedom in modern society. The founding fathers did not desire a theocracy and were largely rationalists with Christian fundamentalist ideals. Christianity is the most practised religion in the US, Canada, UK, and Australia. Christianity upholds moral values that have been in place for decades if not centuries in the western world. When applied effectively, the Bible teaches lessons and instills values at an early age that can make night-and-day developmental differences.
Lastly, God is a final authority. True Christian Fundamentalism is absolutely necessary for any of this to function. The founding fathers were Christian Rationalists and Deists which meant they didn't believe in God in a supernatural sense, but did believe in the teachings the Bible provided and the benefits of the religion itself. At least in our history books, these men were truly honest men who believed in the teachings of Jesus themselves, and did not see a necessity to imply the wrath of God in the founding of America. This attitude needs to change, because only by believing there is something far more powerful than you at work can you have an effective and fair government. Deist worldviews don't do anything but attempt to rationalize the world around us and do little to give weight to morality. The lessons have little purpose if there is no greater force at work. It may do well to help ease the minds of many, but it won't improve our society or freedoms.
God's land, God's country, God's people. These are the fundamental principles under which the most free country in the modern world was formed. It is the reason men escaped British rule and founded an independent nation. No man, no government, no crown may rule over them. It was God's will that they be free, and through this ideal they recognized that British Monarchs were not the final authority on their lives.
It was through God that we found freedom and actualized it. It is through the death of God that all of it has crumbled away.
What would the return of Christianity look like? It would have to happen organically, and by and large we can observe Christian values returning to the forefront of society. Roe v Wade is an obvious example, and we can see it growing against the ongoing trans fad. I'm not going to prognosticate an entire civil war scenario like some users would, but for certain it would be highly divisive and likely result in balkanization in the west. Spending 2 years indoors and alone has had a lot of people questioning their station and purpose in life and at this point, God is about the only thing left to hope for.
Many people will take the position of believing religion is simply an effective means of control. This is only true in part. Any effectively congregated, agreeable, suggestible, and homogeneous group can be controlled, brainwashed, and weaponized. Look no further than modern schools to see how politicians have propped themselves up as gods, how the ideology is one of radical acceptance and collectivism, and how the practise of this ideology is predicated on defeating a demonic enemy: the so-called alt-right bigots. On this notion, I reject any argument that religion will be used for control on its face. In the present day, Leftist ideologies are used for control in much the same way religion has been used classically (Roman Catholics smashing savages and brainwashing their kids). I only posit that Christian values and the belief of a higher power is required, and that no other form of rational worldview can fill this place or carry out this role.
Romans 8:38-39
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Galatians 5:1
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
TL;DR: The recognition of a higher power (and therefore a literal fundamental interpretation of the Bible) are a necessity to preserve the freedoms of Americans especially, since the foundation of the country is built on Christian values. Much of what's here can be applied to other countries where the majority religion is Christianity. Freedom and the protection thereof in America is predicated on those rights being God-given and inalienable under Him. Without God, there is zero reason to respect the documents, policies, and ideals upon which America was founded.
In God We Trust
One Nation, Under God
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
“...with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence”
“...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”
Most people would agree that we are born with free will. Any form of antitheism or atheism would have to obey this simple reality because their system of perception cannot support fate or destiny. Christian faiths posits that God has His plan for each of us, but that free will is given to man to pursue his destiny. The point is that no matter who you are, it's very difficult to argue that humans are not fundamentally free and unrestricted at birth. Yes, a baby has dependency on its parents, but natural dependencies are not the same as restricting your God-given freedoms.
It is important to know that no man can free you, he can only set you back. By law and virtue of nature, you are able to do anything your body and mind allows for and by that simple fact alone we can recognize that humans are fundamentally free. For a government or authority or anyone to tell you that your freedom is a privilege and not a given is an outright lie and a failure to recognize both nature and God. Ignoring nature and God has brought us to where we are today. The most powerful people in the world completely reject the possibility that life has meaning (or at least, they never touch the topic or make it a public issue, while constantly pushing that life is totally random and meaningless), that each person is sacred in their own right, and that God-given facts of life are protected.
So why God? Why not naturalism or humanism or rationalism or Science™? Why not Islam? It's simple. Christianity is the foundation of America, which is (or has been lol) the pillar of freedom in modern society. The founding fathers did not desire a theocracy and were largely rationalists with Christian fundamentalist ideals. Christianity is the most practised religion in the US, Canada, UK, and Australia. Christianity upholds moral values that have been in place for decades if not centuries in the western world. When applied effectively, the Bible teaches lessons and instills values at an early age that can make night-and-day developmental differences.
Lastly, God is a final authority. True Christian Fundamentalism is absolutely necessary for any of this to function. The founding fathers were Christian Rationalists and Deists which meant they didn't believe in God in a supernatural sense, but did believe in the teachings the Bible provided and the benefits of the religion itself. At least in our history books, these men were truly honest men who believed in the teachings of Jesus themselves, and did not see a necessity to imply the wrath of God in the founding of America. This attitude needs to change, because only by believing there is something far more powerful than you at work can you have an effective and fair government. Deist worldviews don't do anything but attempt to rationalize the world around us and do little to give weight to morality. The lessons have little purpose if there is no greater force at work. It may do well to help ease the minds of many, but it won't improve our society or freedoms.
God's land, God's country, God's people. These are the fundamental principles under which the most free country in the modern world was formed. It is the reason men escaped British rule and founded an independent nation. No man, no government, no crown may rule over them. It was God's will that they be free, and through this ideal they recognized that British Monarchs were not the final authority on their lives.
It was through God that we found freedom and actualized it. It is through the death of God that all of it has crumbled away.
What would the return of Christianity look like? It would have to happen organically, and by and large we can observe Christian values returning to the forefront of society. Roe v Wade is an obvious example, and we can see it growing against the ongoing trans fad. I'm not going to prognosticate an entire civil war scenario like some users would, but for certain it would be highly divisive and likely result in balkanization in the west. Spending 2 years indoors and alone has had a lot of people questioning their station and purpose in life and at this point, God is about the only thing left to hope for.
Many people will take the position of believing religion is simply an effective means of control. This is only true in part. Any effectively congregated, agreeable, suggestible, and homogeneous group can be controlled, brainwashed, and weaponized. Look no further than modern schools to see how politicians have propped themselves up as gods, how the ideology is one of radical acceptance and collectivism, and how the practise of this ideology is predicated on defeating a demonic enemy: the so-called alt-right bigots. On this notion, I reject any argument that religion will be used for control on its face. In the present day, Leftist ideologies are used for control in much the same way religion has been used classically (Roman Catholics smashing savages and brainwashing their kids). I only posit that Christian values and the belief of a higher power is required, and that no other form of rational worldview can fill this place or carry out this role.
Romans 8:38-39
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Galatians 5:1
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
not formerly religious, never have been. Religion was never in my home in any form. I was a bit of le internet atheist when I was younger and more impressionable but through age and maturity I have recognized the sheer importance of practising any form of spirituality. I have always taken a liking to the Bible and its teachings and it is only through looking outside these last 2 years that I decided that I need to seriously consider faith in my life. Please try to be respectful.
TL;DR: The recognition of a higher power (and therefore a literal fundamental interpretation of the Bible) are a necessity to preserve the freedoms of Americans especially, since the foundation of the country is built on Christian values. Much of what's here can be applied to other countries where the majority religion is Christianity. Freedom and the protection thereof in America is predicated on those rights being God-given and inalienable under Him. Without God, there is zero reason to respect the documents, policies, and ideals upon which America was founded.
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