GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Did you use DDU? I've always been paranoid about doing direct upgrades on both Radeon and Nvidia drivers.
Nah, I've always been lucky. An extra reboot fixed it. Over the last few years I've had no problem with their drivers, but I really don't play much and I normally use the Studio ones. It was probably the Elden Ring patched that fucked something up.
 
Nah, I've always been lucky. An extra reboot fixed it. Over the last few years I've had no problem with their drivers, but I really don't play much and I normally use the Studio ones. It was probably the Elden Ring patched that fucked something up.
Fucking damnit Miyazaki, still I'm putting the Radeons on hold. I ain't buyin Nvidia because performance >>> some gimmicky graphic upgrade.
 
Prices continuing to fall. In the UK seeing 6700XTs for < £700 (just); and 6600XTs for around £420. If you want to cut corners a 6600 is around £320. Reckon they'll continue to come down over the next couple of months and :optimistic: but I think they'll get down to MSRP.

The problem - next gen is probably a mere six months out and it looks like it's going to have a major performance increase over the current generation.
 
There's also the problem that, as GPU prices fall, the cost of other parts might go up as people start building PCs again.
Oh neat, and I'm still on the fence between Liquid or Air cooling (NZXT Kraken X53 vs Deepcool AK620).
 
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Zen 4 Epyc processors leaked.
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Yes, that is a newer, bigger socket. SP5 it's called, or LGA-6096. So like 2002 more contact points than the previous Threadripper/Epyc sockets.
 
my penis can only get so erect. why did i have to be poor instead of being wealthy enough to afford something like this
The question is: would you even need this much processing power, even if it was a consumer grade Threadripper. May I remind you, there is a special setting for the Threadripper called "Gaming Mode", and what it actually does is it disables most of the cores because games freak out over the amount of cores that the Threadripper has. This kind of hardware makes sense if you're doing some heavy calculations or production work where all that multithreaded power matters. If you're an average consumer that just wants to game and do some work, then getting a standard Ryzen CPU will be enough.
 
The question is: would you even need this much processing power, even if it was a consumer grade Threadripper. May I remind you, there is a special setting for the Threadripper called "Gaming Mode", and what it actually does is it disables most of the cores because games freak out over the amount of cores that the Threadripper has. This kind of hardware makes sense if you're doing some heavy calculations or production work where all that multithreaded power matters. If you're an average consumer that just wants to game and do some work, then getting a standard Ryzen CPU will be enough.
as a person who does video editing, video encoding, 3d modeling/rendering, vidya and web browsing, of course i need this
 
Question, I have a Dell desktop from 2016 that I'm planning on changing the parts in to up the C drive from 256gb to at least 1-2TB. I'm also going to upgrade my NVIDIA and other shit etc. So I can use it to run programming shit at non abysmal speeds.

I've never DIY'd computer parts before but I have experience soldering from other tech/art endeavors. Do I need a grounding wristlet or should anti-static gloves be enough? Any other tips on what products are the best? I'm not deadset on any particular products at the moment for replacements.
 
Question, I have a Dell desktop from 2016 that I'm planning on changing the parts in to up the C drive from 256gb to at least 1-2TB. I'm also going to upgrade my NVIDIA and other shit etc. So I can use it to run programming shit at non abysmal speeds.

I've never DIY'd computer parts before but I have experience soldering from other tech/art endeavors. Do I need a grounding wristlet or should anti-static gloves be enough? Any other tips on what products are the best? I'm not deadset on any particular products at the moment for replacements.
i literally built my pc without the strap and on carpet and all the parts i got ended up working so you should be fine

sidenote, your dell pc should come with other sata ports so you can keep the 256gb drive as well as a new 1tb drive. i'd recommend an ssd of course. 1tb costs like around 100 bucks and should be more than fine
 
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The question is: would you even need this much processing power, even if it was a consumer grade Threadripper. May I remind you, there is a special setting for the Threadripper called "Gaming Mode", and what it actually does is it disables most of the cores because games freak out over the amount of cores that the Threadripper has. This kind of hardware makes sense if you're doing some heavy calculations or production work where all that multithreaded power matters. If you're an average consumer that just wants to game and do some work, then getting a standard Ryzen CPU will be enough.
Don't Valve games consume CPU rather than GPU? Retard here but doesn't more CPU mean better FPS in those games?
 
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Don't Valve games consume CPU rather than GPU? Retard here but doesn't more CPU mean better FPS in those games?
High cores are useful for tasks where there's a lot of data to process and it can be spread out in chunks over all the cores. Video editing, pre-rendering 3D graphics, compiling large code bases, etc. Games can't take advantage of lots of cores. Their interactive and real-time nature prevents the kind of parallel computation for which server and workstation CPUs like the Threadripper are optimized. For games, high clock speeds are generally more important than core count, at least when you get above four cores. When people talk about the Source engine being CPU-bound, they mean that if you have a slow (in clock speed terms) CPU paired with a fast GPU, you will more likely get an FPS benefit with a faster CPU than if you upgraded the GPU. Cores don't give you any benefit here past four cores.
 
Question, I have a Dell desktop from 2016 that I'm planning on changing the parts in to up the C drive from 256gb to at least 1-2TB. I'm also going to upgrade my NVIDIA and other shit etc. So I can use it to run programming shit at non abysmal speeds.

I've never DIY'd computer parts before but I have experience soldering from other tech/art endeavors. Do I need a grounding wristlet or should anti-static gloves be enough? Any other tips on what products are the best? I'm not deadset on any particular products at the moment for replacements.
dell gross.
just touch the case before touching components, hasn't failed me yet

also https://pcpartpicker.com
 
Question, I have a Dell desktop from 2016 that I'm planning on changing the parts in to up the C drive from 256gb to at least 1-2TB. I'm also going to upgrade my NVIDIA and other shit etc. So I can use it to run programming shit at non abysmal speeds.

I've never DIY'd computer parts before but I have experience soldering from other tech/art endeavors. Do I need a grounding wristlet or should anti-static gloves be enough? Any other tips on what products are the best? I'm not deadset on any particular products at the moment for replacements.
You do not need that, especially not for those components. What you need is to check your PSU and what size of a card your DELL can accommodate. If you buy a card that does not need any secondary power source, meaning it operates solely on what is provided by the PCIe slot, then you're golden. Those cards are small.

But even something like the RX6500 needs external power and I really don't think your DELL power supply have any of those available. This is easily fixed, buy a new PSU and swap it, it's not hard it just slides out. If you're going for a longer card then you need to research what can be fitted in there. To do this, just use youtube, ricing out older DELLs is almost a genre of itself.

I have recommended this guy in the past, he's incredibly boring but he upgrades and flips computers like that, so just search for your model and something will probably come up.

And for the harddrive/SSD, plug the SSD in(use the cables from the optical if necessary), boot windows, install Macrium Reflect(free), clone your existing drive onto the SSD(make sure to expand the partition to fill the drive), unplug your old drive and stick those cables into your new drive.
Takes maybe 15 minutes, you PC will boot up faster than ever and you do not have to reinstall anything.
Don't Valve games consume CPU rather than GPU? Retard here but doesn't more CPU mean better FPS in those games?
It's the scheduler juggling threads around a ton of cores that fucks things up. That's why restricting the amount of cores work. You can also do this manually via task manager, right click the process and choose "set affinity" to restrict it.

That's actually a thing to keep in mind. Some old single-threaded games and programs freak out when they're being bounced around like a foster child. For old games they might use the ReadTimeStampCounter hardware instruction for very, very accurate time(old Windows had a similar function but it could be off up to 200ms iirc while RDTSC was cycle accurate). This was used to keep track of how much time had passed between frames so animations and the game state could be updated accordingly. With individual cores both boosting and clocking down individually their reported cycle count will differ from each other and when a game is bounced around the gamestate will sort of travel through time. Make a batch file and launch it at a chosen affinity or alt-tab out and do it in task manager.
 
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But even something like the RX6500 needs external power and I really don't think your DELL power supply have any of those available. This is easily fixed, buy a new PSU and swap it, it's not hard it just slides out.
need to be careful because some of those dell monstrosities have non-industry standard oem PSU and mobo's.
 
Couple of questions.

What makes for good/bad motherboards these days? My last major build back in 2015 had a bad coil whine problem which I think was motherboard related. Yet I haven't seen coil whine or on board sound mentioned in any articles for years. Now they all talk about power delivery, M.2 cooling, and how many USB slots they have.

What OS is good? I was going to go Win 10 or 11 for VR games, but randos on the internet claim Win 11 is bad and Linux is the way to go. I don't play competitive online games, MMOs, or most new AAA games, so I don't care about those with DRM or anti-cheat.

I've never DIY'd computer parts before but I have experience soldering from other tech/art endeavors. Do I need a grounding wristlet or should anti-static gloves be enough? Any other tips on what products are the best? I'm not deadset on any particular products at the moment for replacements.
Despite all the complexities on the surface, it's mostly slotting parts into slots. They usually can only go one way. Maybe some thermal paste on a CPU before you attach a cooler, but some coolers have that pre-applied for you these days. Soldering is way above the skills you'll need.

I've never fried a part, and I usually build on a regular kitchen table. I hear conflicting ways of "grounding" yourself, but I just touch a radiator and that works fine. Unless you're prone to static shocks, basic precautions should be fine.
 
What makes for good/bad motherboards these days? My last major build back in 2015 had a bad coil whine problem which I think was motherboard related. Yet I haven't seen coil whine or on board sound mentioned in any articles for years. Now they all talk about power delivery, M.2 cooling, and how many USB slots they have.
I mean yeah, that's pretty much all there is to it nowadays. You pick what features you want and then find one that fits within your budget. When Ryzen first came out the motherboards had a lot of hiccups, but now they get motherboards just as good as any Intel.
 
I've never fried a part, and I usually build on a regular kitchen table. I hear conflicting ways of "grounding" yourself, but I just touch a radiator and that works fine. Unless you're prone to static shocks, basic precautions should be fine.

What if i don't have a radiator? Just something else metal that touches the ground?
 
No idea. I hear all kinds of things, with touching the metal of the case being the common one recently.
 
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