Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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Yeah it’s true, after all the she’s being manipulative and acting slow in video is speculation. But they did let her go home and according to ween video she was living at 14 BC and most likely alone.
Reports were that there was just one light on in the house at night and it was on 24/7. I don't think she was living there. Could the people looking after her have just been letting her putter around the house during the day while they were at work and then take her home with them after work? I bet the accident showed how poor of an idea that was.
 
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Chris shit his pants out of stress facing a job application.

There could be an unconscious, naked smoking hot 16 year old outside his house, and Chris would stress sigh and do fuck all, because putting his paws on her would mean having to go through the trouble of leaving the house.

The only reason we’re even here, is because an opportunity for incest happened to plop into his lap, in the form of his degenerate mother. Something that isn’t likely to repeat itself.

Just what exactly is that “pool of victims” you’re referring to? A plate of sliders at Denny’s?!
Eh, I mean you can't forget that prior to the event with Barb everyone thought he would never harm someone sexually and yet here we are. Chris is lazier now for sure, but back in his prime he drove for many hours at the promise of china, so he certainly has gone to great lengths for it before. But my point was not about Chris necessarily hunting for kids, just saying that retarded predators will seek out a victim that is within their means to take advantage of. In this case that was Barb. Ultimately it doesn't make him not a danger and given how inappropriately handsy he is known to be with women, hard to say that he wouldn’t take an opportunity presented to him. I wouldn’t want him in a home with access to less functional tards, for example.
 
I think the delay was because there was a possibility that Chris was legally insane. They put everything on hold to get him evaluated (twice!)
It would be very very very very very difficult to prove that Chris was insane. He bought a gosh-danged book about how to sex differently advantaged persons. He had a schedule and kept to it. He told people just enough about his "over 50s" gf to allow them realize that he was diddling his mother, but was obviously trying to hide the fact that his he was returning to the hole whence he originated.
Nothing indicates that he did not have a "criminal mind" or was unaware that sex with your mommy is not cricket. It looks like the opposite, in fact.
 
It would be very very very very very difficult to prove that Chris was insane. He bought a gosh-danged book about how to sex differently advantaged persons. He had a schedule and kept to it. He told people just enough about his "over 50s" gf to allow them realize that he was diddling his mother, but was obviously trying to hide the fact that his he was returning to the hole whence he originated.
Nothing indicates that he did not have a "criminal mind" or was unaware that sex with your mommy is not cricket. It looks like the opposite, in fact.
I think this keeps coming up, Chris is fucking nuts, he's insane. But the legal system just cares do you know what you did was wrong, not are you insane. Even though they use the term insane defense etc, really unless you're legit too dumb to know shooting someone is bad, you're liable.

Chris took steps to hide what he was doing, knowing it was wrong. Chris can't say random/of passion because the book etc.

We may never know what the loony bin things are about and perhaps his lawyer was trying to muddy the waters knowing Chris is doomed, but yeah it's messy.
 
I highly doubt that, this is Virginia we’re talking about after all.
google "incest Virginia" and every single link will be about West Virginia. Completely different state. Criminal incest cases between adults are extremely rare outside of West Virginia and Africa.
 
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If Chris goes go Prison, he will be gang raped. Full stop. All prisons have dirty guards. The fee for them to look the other way is incredibly cheap. Chris is the closest to a woman they have seen in years/decades.
- Nobody wants to rape Chris. Or be within hearing/smelling distance.
- Real life prison is not the TV show OZ.
 
the is the thing i find so ironically funny, in his 25th birthday message he railed against smoking and alcohol because it shortens your lifespan, yet he has lived his entire life since then in such a way that guarantees he is going to die an early death.
Man, to show Golden Age Chris what he would become in almost two decades time?

He's literally become everything he hated.
A question to those that know more than me. But if this wasn't Chris and just a regular case what would be the reasons for it going this way?
Like why would a regular adult incest case take a year before being brought before a grand jury.
Sorry if it was asked and answered earlier.

I don't think "regular" can apply to Chris in just about any context.

I mean, I saw the delusions of godhood coming based on how he gradually wrote himself as a more and more powerful being in his comics (which were always representing his idealized version of reality) in combination with him using his comic “powers” on real people. It was just a matter of time before the lines between comic-god Chris and real-life Chris got completely blurred.

But the incest truly came outta left field…
I agree, he was already calling himself the 'Great Director Chandler' waaaaaay back when, with the whole Simonla incident causing a complete shutdown of his mindscape because he'd violated his own internal logic with killing her.

Personally I think it's him just not being able to cope with the fact reality doesn't actually center around him and his whims, part of his eternal escapist fantasy, and it's devolved into him wanting a Fringe-style world-fusing apocalypse where he will finally have what he believes to be rightfully his. Which is godlike omnipotence, naturally - a frightful implication given the Twilight Zone did do an episode about a little shit of a kid having omnipotence and it doesn't end well for anybody.
 
If Chris goes go Prison, he will be gang raped. Full stop. All prisons have dirty guards. The fee for them to look the other way is incredibly cheap. Chris is the closest to a woman they have seen in years/decades.
Nobody wants to gang rape his dirty, crapped anus. The worst thing that would happen is everyone laughing at him and he thinks they are laughing with him, just like at Manchester High. Prison would be the 2nd best time of his life.
 
I think the delay was because there was a possibility that Chris was legally insane. They put everything on hold to get him evaluated (twice!)
I'm going to Troon out if I hear anymore newfags or latefags blab about how Chris is going/trying to get off with criminal insanity.

You can be insane and shoot people because Jesus told you too. Telling you those God damn liberals are turning the frogs gay and they're trying to take your guns too. So shoot them before they turn you into a Chinese commie and avenge Alex Jones. You still know that what you're doing is wrong.

Meanwhile criminal insanity, typically (not always) means that you arent able to differiantiate between right or wrong. Such as the one time Gary Plauche did humanity a favor and 1 tapped a pedo in the face with a pistol. His defense claimed that due to what Jeff Doucet did to his son. It drove Gary to a point of insanity where he could not determine right or wrong and acted on pure fatherly impulse.

Chris on multiple occasions has shown lucidity, intent, premeditated, secrecy and covering up his crime, and defending his actions. Trying to go for an insanity plea would get thrown out almost immediately. Chris is insane, he's not criminally insane.
 
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I'm going to Troon out if I hear anymore newfags or latefags blab about how Chris is going/trying to get off with criminal insanity.

You can be insane and shoot people because Jesus told you too. Telling you those God damn liberals are turning the frogs gay and they're trying to take your guns too. So shoot them before they turn you into a Chinese commie and avenge Alex Jones. You still know that what you're doing is wrong.

Meanwhile criminal insanity, typically (not always) means that you arent able to differiantiate between right or wrong. Such as the one time Gary Plauche did humanity a favor and 1 tapped a pedo in the face with a pistol. His defense claimed that due to what Jeff Doucet did to his son. It drove Gary to a point of insanity where he could not determine right or wrong and acted on pure fatherly impulse.

Chris on multiple occasions has shown lucidity, intent, premeditated, secrecy and covering up his crime, and defending his actions. Trying to go for an insanity plea would get thrown out almost immediately. Chris is insane, he's not criminally insane.
I blame DC Comics for the popular notion that you just have to show up to court acting like The Joker and you’ll get off on an insanity plea.

In reality, The Joker as he is usually portrayed wouldn’t be considered criminally insane… and there’s no such thing as “gettin off/walking” on an insanity plea. You’ll just be locked up for life, and probably drugged to shit, in a different big building than prison.

Le sigh. (:_(
 
I blame DC Comics for the popular notion that you just have to show up to court acting like The Joker and you’ll get off on an insanity plea.

In reality, The Joker as he is usually portrayed wouldn’t be considered criminally insane… and there’s no such thing as “gettin off/walking” on an insanity plea. You’ll just be locked up for life, and probably drugged to shit, in a different big building than prison.

Le sigh. (:_(
Which is the joke. Being declared unfit for trial due to mental incompetence is a fate worse then death. If given the choice of life without parole, or even the lethal injection, over being declared mentally unfit to stand trial? Take the lethal injection.
 
I highly doubt that, this is Virginia we’re talking about after all.
Show me the records. I have searched far and wide. There is literally no record of anyone other than Chris ever being criminally charged with having sex with a parent or adult sibling in the history of Virginia. The only incest cases on record in the entire commonwealth were pedoforks.
 
All the police would need is to test the condoms to find both Chris' and Barb's DNA on them to prove that sexual contact happened.

I doubt they even bothered to do a DNA test. I mean lab fees aren't cheap, and who else's DNA would be on used condoms found in 14BLC?


You non-believers fail to realize that it is already upon us. Major war in Europe is close. The EU has potential to collapse. Biden wants to battle the chinks in Asia. Complete destruction of physical world, economy, and everything else is a distinct possibility.

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It was because they were like this.

Still better than the streets. At least there's a roof.

the institutions were supposed to be replaced with better, more humane ones

So they say.

If that really was the plan they would have created the replacements first.


This. Usually the first deal is as good as it gets,

Normally, yes. Especially if they're hoping to make an example of the accused. In Chris' case, I suspect the plea deal on offer has been the same all along: No return to 14BLC, no contact with Barb, tard home (far away), and mandatory therapy. What more could they want? It's simply been a matter of increasing the pressure to get Chris to take the deal. He hasn't so far because he's an idiot, so now he'll have to plea guilty to felony incest instead of misdemeanor incest.


It's actually a niche in a columbarium.

^This. Barb's not worth the digging.


If you are declared "not-guilty" it doesn't mean you're innocent.

But it does mean you still enjoy the presumption of innocence.


He's in Protective Custody in jail

Not so much protective custody as medical observation.


Imagine being such a thoroughly evil cunt you have your daughter lobotomized then use your position in society to become an activist against mental health institutions because you can't cope with how horribly fucked up your child's life is as a result of your decisions.

If we're going to go over every example of evil hypocrisy committed by the Kennedys, we'll be here all week. Suffice to say I can't think of a single political family that isn't thoroughly evil.


I hope he gets sentenced to life. Life in the gas chamber.

Dwelling at 14BLC all these years might have made him immune.


now a President’s son can be a crackhead and possibly a “Big P” and the rest of the world just shrugs.

Oh no. There was still a coverup. It's just that the internet makes coverups more difficult. Also accountability in general has gone right out the window.


Most other places would take one look at the media fiasco this would cause, gulp, and quickly shove him in a very discreet and hard to contact asylum.

Unfortunately, Chris has rights. But worry not. This includes the right to shoot himself in the foot in court.


I didn't see it posted in the thread yet, but Chris' case is now viewable on the state court website.

Thanks for that. You're doing Good Work.

It's interesting that it's still only the class 5 felony incest charge. Also the Virginia courts haven't updated their database to include 'incest w/own mother'. Also 'gender: male'.


What do the PLEADINGS/ORDERS stuff tell us?

For one thing, their dates are fucked up in their database. Gotta love that lowest bidder government contract work that only allows for date of entry.

I'm not certain, but I believe now that Chris has been sent up to Big Boy Court, all the materials from J&DR (apart from those still nominally protected by HIPAA) might become part of the public record like every other circuit court case.


Apparently if Chris wanted to, he could theoretically testify before the grand jury.

Only if the prosecutor or grand jury requests the testimony (extremely unlikely) and Chris doesn't exercise his right to remain silent (though also unlikely).


You're honestly in as good a position as anyone else on this thread because this is not how anyone with a legal education here predicted this.

I think we all underestimated Chris' ability to fuck up. I also think I overestimated Heilberg's tard wrangling skills.


hey managed to survive in spite of it.

Like weeds.
 
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