Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

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damn, I really thought he was gonna be released today for the incest charge, didn’t think he would get the book thrown at him. What are they gonna get him for though? Rape? Assault? Or class5 felony incest?
It's most likely rape at this point. They wouldn't go to a Grand Jury if they planned to charge him with diddly stuff. Chris almost certainly passed a mental evaluation as fit for trial and refused a plea deal. There won't be any more sympathy or talk about insanity. He refused the prosecutor's offer and the gloves are off now.
 
They will most likely indict him, but once they see Chris irl and hear him talk (berg will probably put him on stand to show how retarded he is) I doubt they’ll find him criminally responsible. Who knows, maybe he will somehow decide to waive the right to a jury and let the judge decide, in which case the sympathy factors will not be considered
if the charges were anything other than chris raping his senile mother the jury would likely buy the rob bell autistic adult child defense and feel pity for him and let him off easy but the prosecution is going to beat into their heads all the ways that chris would gaslight and rape his senile mother so theres no chance in hell he isnt going to prison
 
Talking about evidence, I wonder whether Chris' nonsensical letters where he inadvertently admitted to raping his own mother will be used as such?

Oh yes. It's not only good evidence. It's the lack of remorse and his defensiveness that's going to really fuck him over. It'd be like a murderer saying they killed someone because it was the right thing to do and they'd do it again.
 
I keep hearing people talk about “Rape”, had there been an official rape charge put on him?
Charges would typically be made public after a grand jury if I am not mistaken.

He has served the longest sentence possible for a misdemeanour though in jail
True, but he could have multiple misdemeanors. Violation of a no-contact order, incest, something else related to transferring money.
I am not saying this is likely, just that it is possible.
 
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Regarding this raising to a grand jury, is it possible he thought that if he refused any plea deal, the judge would have no choice but to send him home?

He is stupid and delusional enough to think this, I believe.
All the more reason to send Chris to prison/mental hospital: When the jury finds out Chris doesn't know how pleas work, can't make sound decisions, can't take care of himself and knows he's a threat to himself and others (cutting himself and hurting/raping Barb), the jury in good conscience can't allow to Chris to return to public life.
 
Everyone is caught up thinking that this guarantees a felony, while it is certainly likely, misdemeanor grand juries are a thing in Virginia. They are rare, but they exist.
It could still be misdemeanor.
What would be the charge though?

If it’s incest and the police have enough evidence of probable cause taken from Barb at the hospital to arrest Chris and throw him in jail how would his lawyer even be able to fight something like that?
 
GODDAMNIT RETARDS, PLEASE READ THIS:

A Grand Jury is *NOT* the jury you go before at trial. The defendant doesn't go before a grand jury. The *CHARGES* go before a grand jury and they decide whether or not to indict on a felony (the answer is always yes).

It just means they're gonna charge Chris with a felony. It doesn't mean it's going to trial. It doesn't even mean he's going to get convicted of a felony, it just means he's charged with one and they want to keep him in jail.

Chris probably either fucked up his plea agreement, or the agreement requires he be charged with a felony. Alternatively, Heilberg really was stalling the probable cause hearing.

We'll find out a lot more soon because he's going to Circuit Court, which is not kept secret like J&DR is.

I'm sure @Pointless Sperg will have better information, but the continuances that have lead to this point seem to mean they were holding him on one charge while the prosecution worked out some things and decided they wanted to at least upgrade one count to a felony or add felony charges. Now, the Grand Jury has to decide if they agree with the prosecutor that there's enough evidence to send each count to trial. From there, the prosecutor and Chris's legal team can negotiate a plea deal that prevents it from going to trial.

It's probably the same charge, just allowed to be a felony now. Either Chris fucked up a deal, or the prosecutor will only accept a deal that involves a felony conviction.

Can @Pointless Sperg or another learned Kiwi please explain what this will likely mean in regards to timeline of Chris's incarceration, jury selection and other details of a what this Grand Jury entails and will likely mean for the future of Lardass and Barb? Would love to hear what someone knowledgeable about legal proceedings has to say.

Chris will be in jail at least until he is sentenced -- they can hold him for years now before trial if need be. It could be a week with a plea deal, it could be many months if it goes to trial.
 
A Grand Jury is *NOT* the jury you go before at trial. The defendant doesn't go before a grand jury. The *CHARGES* go before a grand jury and they decide whether or not to indict on a felony (the answer is always yes).
A grand jury in Virginia is just a bunch of random citizens. They get a list of cases and then decide on every single one of them that the defendant gets to go to trial on the felonies they're charged with.

If there's actually a grand jury, they'll rubber-stamp whatever the prosecutor says.
 
With all of his god powers, wonder if Chris saw this coming? He will claim he did, but that last jail letter said different...

Stupid question for law fags: does Chris remain in jail until the next trial?
 
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