Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

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Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 63 2.3%
  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 59 2.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 113 4.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 221 8.0%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 785 28.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,103 40.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 14 0.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 81 2.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 77 2.8%
  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 714 26.0%
  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 217 7.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 399 14.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 98 3.6%
  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 327 11.9%

  • Total voters
    2,750
Do they fight smarter? Never really noted it when I played IV, granted I got gold fish memory, but IV felt a pretty standard cover system, guy pops out, get headshot, honestly, the only times I died more than once in a level were the helicopter ones, until I got a ps4 control for it. I think the gangs in TLAD got grenade launchers, which change things, but I don't remember them being "smart."

Unless it is just "smarter than V", which isn't a high bar.

I think I should replay to check out, I did miss the "finish the game in 20 hours" achievement after all.
 
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Do they fight smarter? Never really noted it when I played IV, granted I got gold fish memory, but IV felt a pretty standard cover system, guy pops out, get headshot, honestly, the only times I died more than once in a level were the helicopter ones, until I got a ps4 control for it. I think the gangs in TLAD got grenade launchers, which change things, but I don't remember them being "smart."

Unless it is just "smarter than V", which isn't a high bar.

I think I should replay to check out, I did miss the "finish the game in 20 hours" achievement after all.
It depended on the NPC I think, for example the police were a lot more intelligent than in V and would utilize actual irl tactics against you, for example NOOSE would utilize SWAT tactics against you. Most of the game you're dealing with assorted goons however.
 
Yeah, I dont remember what the police does besides ramming the cars, granted I never felt a need to go and rampage in the game, ammo is too expensive and the one time I tried to rampage, every single car in the island pretty much dissapeared (I was in the starter island) and I had to try find one on foot, open terrain don't really let the AI do any tactics (a similar problem happens in Half Life 2, the AI is smart but the terrain don't help most of time). In fact, I rampaged more in RDR1 than in IV.
 
When it makes the game not fun is my personal opinion. You can put in all the pointless realism bullshit you want in the background but if it interferes with the player experience? Fuck you.
Open-world games are supposed to let you just exist. Sometimes I wanna stroll around, admire the fake buildings, pretend I’m a guy with a life. Other times I’ve died nine times and now I’m just a rage missile trying to get to the next checkpoint.

Some games just refuse to allow that. Like Driver 2, that game was like living under stop-and-frisk but for cars. You run a red light and it’s like WEE-OO WEE-OO. It was miserable.

 
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Open-world games are supposed to let you just exist. Sometimes I wanna stroll around, admire the fake buildings, pretend I’m a guy with a life. Other times I’ve died nine times and now I’m just a rage missile trying to get to the next checkpoint.

Some games just refuse to allow that. Like Driver 2, that game was like living under stop-and-frisk but for cars. You run a red light and it’s like WEE-OO WEE-OO. It was miserable.

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It is admittedly fun sometimes to try and play the game "realistically" instead of just blazing down the highway like a maniac passing everyone in your way. I've done that before.
On that note, originally they wanted you to actually get a wanted level for violating traffic laws like running red lights in GTA III, but thankfully they realized everyone would've fucking hated that and left it out, but there's still a bit of code in the game proving it was planned at one point.
I wish I could believe that Rockstar still has that kind of common sense today.
 
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It is admittedly fun sometimes to try and play the game "realistically" instead of just blazing down the highway
San Andreas was probably the high-water mark for just vibing in a video game city. Collectibles and side activities were an obvious racket to move strategy guides but it also had scenic vistas, that camera you could use to archive urban freakshows...

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and schedules for dating every girlfriend in the state. I’m not under any illusion I’d do it again, as an adult with a shrinking lifespan, but at the time it really did feel immersive in a way that wasn't about "content".

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I’m not under any illusion I’d do it again, as an adult with a shrinking lifespan, but at the time it really did feel immersive in a way that wasn't about "content".
I feel the same with how I play games now, when I was 14 I could finish GTA V and Far Cry 4 three times each (I kept losing my PSN account), without feeling tired, now, just finishing stuff feel like a chore, when I go rampage on RDR2 I can see the hidden clock moving foward and thinking "shouldn't I be doing another thing?"

Finished RDR2 again, I played as mostly Low Honor (since some stuff isn't available if I choose the Low Honor options), it is quite an interesting playthrough compared to the High Honor I did on my old PS4 (RIP).

I still like the game, but yeah, it is very imperfect, with stuff like Arthur spending half the game looking as if he's gonna pass out if you are in the wrong clothes or the camera becoming super shaky in any long combat.

Likely it will be the same experience when GTA VI comes out, I'm gonna play, have some fun, but still feel like I'm wasting time. It likely won't be a bad game, but the magic of the 3D era won't repeat
 
Speaking of realism, I was having a pretty good time with the LSPDFR mod for GTA V, at least up until the most recent game update broke every single mod/dependency I have and you apparently can't just retain the version you had before and still boot the game, even though I've never touched GTA Online with a ten foot pole. Sometimes it actually does feel like being a cop and there are some integrated mods that even allow you to check in on your arrestees later to see what the outcome was in court. Pretty cool and very high effort, even for modders.
 
I hope that was never meant to be an actual thing. what's next, actual farming simulator for Red Dead 3?
Now I like Red Dead (in spite of my bitching about it) and I like Harvest Moon. But never do I want those two worlds to meet. They'd clash like whiskey and orange juice.
Red Dead Redemption 2 IS Red Dead 3.

The first game in the series was Red Dead Revolver.
 
if you play gta online you are a fucking retard
I am admittedly one of the dents who still plays GTAO sometimes. Mostly with friends though and we just troll public lobbies.
Not like MK2 Oppressor with missiles trolling because that's too easy. No, what we do is we all join an organization together and hop in undercover police cars. (Basically we take the police variants of vehicles and make them look like the civilian versions as much as we possibly can barring of course the hidden police lights. Minimal to no mods, NPC colors, ect.) and then we use Ghost Organization or Out of Sight to pretend to be normal NPCs.

Basically we just stalk people, or wait outside a frequently visited player location to jump people if we see them making a delivery or just doing crime shit in general. There's just something so funny about 4 undercover cruisers lighting up simultaneously as the other guy speeds away as fast as he can.
Why is pretending to be a cop more fun than being a criminal? Is it because being a criminal is too easy now? Fuck if I know.
 
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I used to play Online, and I did like some missions, especially the Heists, but even by the time I had to sell my PS3, I already would get hackers with infinite hp in matches so I dropped.
 
Anyone playing online on PS4/PS5, solo or in a crew? I kinda really like the online concept but those damn kids screaming into their mics with no concept what to do in a simple heist drive me insane. UTC/GMT +1 here, free to play in the afternoon and evenings, preferably without mic because I love listening to true crime podcasts while blowing virtual peoples brains out but happy to communicate via discord. My level might be low (100'ish?) but I've been playing for ages on my old Xbox and I'm capable of following instructions, it really ain't that hard.
 
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