Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[S.C.U.D.]

Given how this case has gone so far, I think picking an option at random in the poll is no less accurate than looking at all the facts and trying to make an educated prediction.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

They can get the court to award attorney fees but Greer won't pay. All the time and money spent so far is a sunk cost and isn't going to figure in Hardin's future course of action.

If he doesn't pay now, he'll have to pay later. Null can send collectors after him later, have his wages garnished, or find other ways of making Greer's life more miserable. Although not worth much monetarily, Russ also has intellectual property that he could be forced to sell, and that would surely make the Greeench's trauma lumps grow three sizes that day.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

In the mean time I think the district court will want to dump this case as fast as possible. Its become radioactive politically. And that matters way more then any law or precedent.

You give far too much credence to how trial judges will consider the prior appellate ruling being cited in briefs before the Supreme Court. The fact that it's cited is not going to mean much of anything at all. The most it might do is pique the interest of some law clerks, who will spend a bit more time looking at the case. That is a good thing, but that's all it will mean ultimately.

The trial judges aren't looking at this case politically. They're probably not looking at it at all, really. It's just "that case with the frustrating pro se guy who sued Taylor Swift once."

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Maybe this should go in one of the other copyright sperging threads, but what does the supremes granting cert to the Sony case mean for references to this fuckfuck of a case?

My assumption is that they're only really going to look at the applecart court decision, and not really on the merits of this actual shit right now, but are we potentially looking at a Thomas footnote when he mentions it that's fifty pages long and goes on and on about how the Court really needs to revist some ancient decision because clearly pro se retards are fuckheads?

Could a decision by the Supremes affect this case at all (assuming it is still alive at the time)? Like a footnote that says "The 10th was fucking insane in Greer v Moon and their decision is remanded to hell"?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

but what does the supremes granting cert to the Sony case mean for references to this fuckfuck of a case?

Nothing in all likelyhood

Could a decision by the Supremes affect this case at all (assuming it is still alive at the time)?

Sure.

Like a footnote that says "The 10th was fucking insane in Greer v Moon and their decision is remanded to hell"?

Probably not the latter half

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

He would freak out at the idea of the IRS sending information directly to Hardin without Greer in the middle.

Greeeee can't tolerate people getting information about him through a 3rd party without his ability to filter it because then he can't EXPLAIN it. Most people don't feel the need to explain basic truths and facts, but Rusty does because all the basic truths and facts about him are fucking awful.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Greeeee can't tolerate people getting information about him through a 3rd party without his ability to filter it because then he can't EXPLAIN it. Most people don't feel the need to explain basic truths and facts, but Rusty does because all the basic truths and facts about him are fucking awful.

He does have an account here. He could EXPLAIN everything in his own thread just fine, if he wanted.

After the last year of this case, I think what Russ actually wants is to know and participate in every place he's being talked about. Hardin can't talk to witnesses without telling Russ. No one can request emails or court files without Russ' consent. A former prostitute can't badmouth brothels without Russ intervening. The big "crime" of KF is anyone can search Greer, read what they want, and come to their own conclusion, without Russ being involved.

The ultimate contradiction of Greer is he wants widespread celebrity with the public, but doesn't want the public to talk about him unless he's there.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

The ultimate contradiction of Greer is he wants widespread celebrity with the public, but doesn't want the public to talk about him unless he's there.

He wants unconditional praise and barring that the ability to moderate commentary about himself across the entire internet. The best part is that he’ll never know a moment’s peace because this is an impossible win condition.

 

[obsdj]

He does have an account here. He could EXPLAIN everything in his own thread just fine, if he wanted.

After the last year of this case, I think what Russ actually wants is to know and participate in every place he's being talked about. Hardin can't talk to witnesses without telling Russ. No one can request emails or court files without Russ' consent. A former prostitute can't badmouth brothels without Russ intervening. The big "crime" of KF is anyone can search Greer, read what they want, and come to their own conclusion, without Russ being involved.

The ultimate contradiction of Greer is he wants widespread celebrity with the public, but doesn't want the public to talk about him unless he's there.

I think it's more that he can't control any of it. He could "explain" here, sure, but he wouldn't be in charge of the conversation, he'd have to follow the rules, and he wouldn't be able to ban people for making fun of him. Like the witnesses: His first demand was a list of questions that would be asked, so he could control what they would say. That was denied, so he told his witnesses to defy their subpoenas. To control the narrative.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Greeeee can't tolerate people getting information about him through a 3rd party without his ability to filter it because then he can't EXPLAIN it. Most people don't feel the need to explain basic truths and facts, but Rusty does because all the basic truths and facts about him are fucking awful.

Just imagine logging into your work computer and receiving a flurry of manic emails from this dysgenic aberration saying "I BELIEVE IN REDEMPTION, DO YOU, [FIRST NAME]???" because you had the temerity to fulfil an extremely mundane request that you are legally obliged to as part of your job.

The clerk likely had zero idea what it is he's "atoning" for and conducted her own research as a result of him Streisanding himself into her orbit.

He truly has no idea of how repellant he is.

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

Just imagine logging into your work computer and receiving a flurry of manic emails from this dysgenic aberration saying "I BELIEVE IN REDEMPTION, DO YOU, [FIRST NAME]???" because you had the temerity to fulfil an extremely mundane request that you are legally obliged to as part of your job.

sounds like some shit one of the bosses from MGR:Revengeance would come up with

@Null

Wanna make some bucks?

Frame Greer's first payment check and put it up for auction. I know that's one hellva artifact I'd like in my collection.

One of the propositions i had for many years was that null should put, in the "Removing Content" page, some HTML graphics of every person who sued the kiwifarms, their decapitated head on wooden poles with fly gifs around and a blood trail that oozes along the pole which acts as a money gauge/progress bar on how much money they still owe to the kiwifarms, with some wooden signs linking to each and every lawsuit they launched and lost
Though i guess it might be too graphic and maybe too intimidating so maybe instead they're photoshopped on cows, with each lawsuit a brand on them and the money being in a milk bucket next to them
Just to say "if you sue me you will lose, i will milk you for your money and your face is gonna end here in this page forever"

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

To control the narrative.

Thats this entire lawsuit summed up. He doesn't care about copywrite. Greee just wants to make sure people don't know what a creepy asshole he is. In his fucked-up mind the only thing standing between him and fame and fortune is his thread on the farms. Dude writes a script in his head then gets mad when people don't follow it. He's so low IQ he literally can't understand why the world doesn't work like he imagines. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't such an unlikeable entitled dickhead.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

As has been pointed out many times, Russell has NEVER given the court a current address.

He purposely gave his address as S Twain (which doesn't exist) instead of E Twain as in his brothel ventures, and right now gives as his address 1100 Dumont, which he admitted he was evicted from in the same filing as changing the address, and has never updated his address since, even though he admits he's found new housing. He even tells Hardin to send mail to his dad's house to avoid giving any real address, which is probably also why he whined so much about supposedly needing to mail the check.

Hardin pointed this out to the court many, many, many times, but it always fell on deaf ears and to this day no judge has even acknowledged the issue of Russell's address.

At the time, someone said Hardin was subtly telling the court "If you wanted to hold him in contempt, you wouldn't know where to serve him or send police to arrest him" so when the judge doesn't know where to send the warrant, Hardin can give the judge a big ol' diplomatic "I told you so!"

 

[Bill Evans 45]

They can get the court to award attorney fees but Greer won't pay. All the time and money spent so far is a sunk cost and isn't going to figure in Hardin's future course of action.

Tell me you don't know anything about Null without telling me...

I voted 'This year' in the poll, but I have no hope it will be a decision in favor of dismissal. At this point I believe Greer could mail the court an IED* and it wouldn't make one iota of difference to this case.

*It would be inert because drool.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Tell me you don't know anything about Null without telling me...

I voted 'This year' in the poll, but I have no hope it will be a decision in favor of dismissal. At this point I believe Greer could mail the court an IED* and it wouldn't make one iota of difference to this case.

*It would be inert because drool.

I voted for this year but that's because I am huffing on some high grade hopium

 

[Hackerzine]

At this point I believe Greer could mail the court an IED* and it wouldn't make one iota of difference to this case.

*It would be inert because drool.

"While Plaintiff did mail an improvised explosive device to this Court, we find that, on balance, Plaintiff's argument that said device was meant for Defense Counsel holds merit. Motion for Sanctions against Plaintiff for attempted assassination is DENIED, Defense Counsel is hereby ORDERED to show cause as why they should not be shipped IED as Plaintiff intended. It is so ordered"

 

[Harvey Danger]

At the time, someone said Hardin was subtly telling the court "If you wanted to hold him in contempt, you wouldn't know where to serve him or send police to arrest him" so when the judge doesn't know where to send the warrant, Hardin can give a judge big ol' diplomatic "I told you so!"

If the Magistrate decides he need a real address to serve Greer, I'm sure somewhere out on the world wide Internet there's a group of autists who might track one down for him, in the interests of judicial economy.

But not for Judge Barlow, that joker can do his own homework.

 

[HackerX]

Tell me you don't know anything about Null without telling me...

Some time ago, I recall Null essentially throwing the gauntlet down and instructing Harden as to how he wanted the lawsuit to proceed. Whenever this is all said and done in about 150 years, I hope we get get details as to what things like that meant. It's hard to gauge whether it was for elements like "keep talking about his prostitution-related business dealings that took precedence over court" or something else more specifically.

 

[obsdj]

If the Magistrate decides he need a real address to serve Greer, I'm sure somewhere out on the world wide Internet there's a group of autists who might track one down for him, in the interests of judicial economy.

I just had a funny thought: What if he never updated his driver's license, and that's the reason he doesn't ever go to the Vegas police when he threatens to? Because, you know, he'd probably get a citation and have to pay a fine.

 

[FamicomGorby]

I just had a funny thought: What if he never updated his driver's license, and that's the reason he doesn't ever go to the Vegas police when he threatens to? Because, you know, he'd probably get a citation and have to pay a fine.

I think it's just Greer knowing deep down that the police won't do anything like with all his other police reports. Or that walking into a police station and bitching that someone won't let you open a brothel probably isn't gonna work out well.