Half Life thread - Discussions about Valve's FPS magnum opus(es) and any related content (spin offs, expansions and etc)

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HL 3...is it still happening?

  • No and anyone that still thinks that it will is delusional

    Votes: 239 47.8%
  • Yes, they just need a few more years to perfect it so it can another game changer in the industry

    Votes: 133 26.6%
  • Shouldnt it be called "Two Lives and a half" instead?

    Votes: 81 16.2%
  • Half life is overrated, you neckbeard homos

    Votes: 47 9.4%

  • Total voters
    500
It's a military base in the middle of American soil in the 90s all about manipulating hazardous materials. Why wouldn't the owners NOT make everyone in that facility at least know how to fire a gun? Not necessarily to be good. Nevermind those who did expeditions to Xen.
 
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I do genuinely wonder how people generally imagine Freeman in their minds. Me, I can't see him as anything but Ross' character from Freeman's Mind, it just clicks so perfectly.
I think "realistically" that's who Gordon would be if the BM Incident actually happened, but I can't really buy into that being who Gordon is in the actual game.
Also freeman's mind 2 feels worse than 1 despite Ross editing the game more. We get it Ross you hate HL2's story, working against it doesn't help.

As for what I think who Gordon is, I dunno. Obviously there's the meta "he's you!" but I don't think I ever really believed that. I never really liked the idea of the protag being me. We know Gordon is smart, at the very least. I suppose the idea is that Gordons thoughts are meant to be your own but I also like tothink that Gordon has a separate mind from the player, he has his own mind but he also carries the minds of others (us/Gman) in him (whoa meta)

"How many are there in you? Whose hopes and dreams do you encompass?
Could you but see the eyes inside your own, the minds in your mind, you would see how much we share.
We are you, Freeman. And you are us."


The coughing vort has the best dialogue in the series.

I wonder if Valve will end up making Gordon have a speaking one-liner of some kind in HLX. Like how id made Doomguy audibly speak a few times.
At this point I wouldn't be mad about it, Episode 1&2 and even HL2 to a lesser extent is when Gordon really started to feel less like a faceless character and more like Jack from Bioshock 1 where now he occupies the space between faceless/speechless protag and a full on character. I also can't be the only who noticed that since its clear now that the community at large has a perception of who Gordon is/his goals/personality/etc. with little variations here and there.

Granted what the community thinks about Gordon is not the same as what Valve thinks but given that for the first time in the series (outside of OP4, where Gordon was more of a cameo) we see Gordon from a new perspective and he plays a pretty pivotal role in the story, I think Valve also has their own idea of Gordon as a character rather than just a vessel. Of course if what happened with Chell in Portal 2 is any indication then don't expect a word from him.

Also calling it now Gordon dies at the end of HLX to fulfill his role of being a Christ figure like was seen in the last few games.

Seeing trigger discipline in such an old game is a strange experience, but one I appreciate. My personal head-canon is that Gordon is a civilian gun-owner, which explains why he was able go toe-to-toe with trained soldiers.
Eh, the new animations just don't mesh well with the 90's graphics and looks extremely out of place. I think a mod has failed if I can look at gameplay and say "yeah that sure is modded half-life" and not being tricked into thinking it could be vanilla HL.

As for Gordon's discipline, I did always like the idea that Gordon is a some type of conflict veteran like the Gulf War hence his prowess with firearms and his ability to stay mostly focused during his journey despite BM coming apart in front of him. Although the logic of how that could fit into the timeline is lost on me. However, Gordon DID make a tennis ball cannon when he was 6 so maybe he always had an affinity for guns.
 
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As for Gordon's discipline, I did always like the idea that Gordon is a some type of conflict veteran like the Gulf War hence his prowess with firearms and his ability to stay mostly focused during his journey despite BM coming apart in front of him. Although the logic of how that could fit into the timeline is lost on me. However, Gordon DID make a tennis ball cannon when he was 6 so maybe he always had an affinity for guns.
so gordon achieved CHIM and all the versions that didn't learn how to use a gun died then.
it's not like guns are hard to use or anything and the HEV MK4 suit has internal medical systems, reactive armor and gun related info he can afford shooting himself a few times, which begs the question of why adding gun shit to a environmental suit
 
so gordon achieved CHIM and all the versions that didn't learn how to use a gun died then.
Considering how Alyx delves into timeline and multiverse stuff I like the idea that the there could be infinite universes but maybe only 1 (our) timeline with all protags that actually succeeded at their goal, whatever that is.

With what Shapiro said about G-man experiencing multiple timelines at once it makes sense too, he's talking to our Gordon while also laughing at another Gordon in a separate timeline that probably just got eviserated by an antlion or got melted in toxic goo.
 
Considering how Alyx delves into timeline and multiverse stuff I like the idea that the there could be infinite universes but maybe only 1 (our) timeline with all protags that actually succeeded at their goal, whatever that is.

With what Shapiro said about G-man experiencing multiple timelines at once it makes sense too, he's talking to our Gordon while also laughing at another Gordon in a separate timeline that probably just got eviserated by an antlion or got melted in toxic goo.
occasionally he sees a few dozen concurrent timelines where gordon dies to the exact same grenade because some retard quicksaved at the wrong time
 
Considering how Alyx delves into timeline and multiverse stuff I like the idea that the there could be infinite universes but maybe only 1 (our) timeline with all protags that actually succeeded at their goal, whatever that is.

With what Shapiro said about G-man experiencing multiple timelines at once it makes sense too, he's talking to our Gordon while also laughing at another Gordon in a separate timeline that probably just got eviserated by an antlion or got melted in toxic goo.
considering HLA canon should be punishable by death, i liked more when gman was teased as this multi faceted being locked under time arrow instead of some weird reality jumper shit that works on parallel timelines as it opens ground to lazy multiverse garbage.
He's probably laughing at the 50 times I died to a shotgunner in that turret sequence in Entanglement
could be worse, you could have quicksaved with 5hp on a mandatory xen manta to portal section, i fucking hate xen, any decent HL player does.
 
Also freeman's mind 2 feels worse than 1 despite Ross editing the game more. We get it Ross you hate HL2's story, working against it doesn't help.
Freemans mind is prime example of loud=funny. If he went down on the fucking screaming it would be so much nicer.
 
Here's something I don't think I've seen pointed out.

So at the end of Ep2 we see a second Advisor show up in addition to the one that was sucking Eli's brain. It targets Alyx.

But in HL:A you only kill the first Advisor, the one that was going for Eli.

And in the post-credit scene, there is only one Advisor corpse.

That second Advisor is probably still alive. And I'm just sayin', it would be really funny if HLX starts with it showing up and just killing Eli all over again anyways. :story:
 
There only being one Advisor getting your marbles rattled is like being bothered about a papercut when the railroad tie of time travel is sticking out of your forehead. Flubs happen, whatever, but every plot point the series had and will have has to take into context why the Instant Win Button is never being pressed.
 
Here's something I don't think I've seen pointed out.

So at the end of Ep2 we see a second Advisor show up in addition to the one that was sucking Eli's brain. It targets Alyx.

But in HL:A you only kill the first Advisor, the one that was going for Eli.

And in the post-credit scene, there is only one Advisor corpse.

That second Advisor is probably still alive. And I'm just sayin', it would be really funny if HLX starts with it showing up and just killing Eli all over again anyways. :story:

They did make the whole thing seem like making a deal with the devil, so having Eli die almost right away to the second advisor would be fittingly tragic.

Its just a mistake but hey, would be funny if this twist was hiding right under our noses.
 
I'm planning to do a big Half-Life marathon, fueled by my copium for 3 coming soon TM. You guys have any mods I should check out?
 
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