Has trans awareness backfired?

[George Floyd Sneed]

There's a reason why society condemned sexual deviancy for 99.9% of our history, regardless of where you were in the world. It’s only in the last 60 years did we decide we should embrace it and look at how it has turned out. Even more concerning I’d how the next 60 years is going to look. Pedophilia is on deck with incest and bestiality not far behind. I think we need to do away with these perverts and no I don’t accept that being a faggot or rug muncher is baste. Time to shove these freaks, along with feminists and miscegenators, back in the closet where they belong.

 

[Black Spruce]

Trannies much like the gay community became their own worst enemies when they started getting in everyone's faces, demanding respect, and demanding access to children.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Had trannies not tried to go after children for recruitment, had they not tried to pass laws against parents wanting to prevent their child from transitioning, and had they not been backed by NGOs and certain globalist groups. At worst, I could say that they are a weird subculture group and what they are doing to themselves is unnatural. Had they kept to themselves I would have been mostly apathetic towards them. But every single one of them are these power hungry and abusive assholes. And the forces surrounding them reveal there's this anti-human agenda being pushed with them.

 

[Quiet Guy]

Sorry, that went over my head. Is this regarding chinpokomon?

No, One Piece. I'm referencing Luffy's grandfather, Monkey D. Garp.

 

[Balalaika Z Bree]

Trannies much like the gay community became their own worst enemies when they started getting in everyone's faces, demanding respect, and demanding access to children.

Not their own worst enemies at all. By turning public opinion against themselves they will on the one hand keep the business of protest and activism going, some have made a lot of money doing this, and on the other hand they may help save some souls, get some people digging and asking about a certain Dr Money etc.

Had trannies not tried to go after children for recruitment, had they not tried to pass laws against parents wanting to prevent their child from transitioning, and had they not been backed by NGOs and certain globalist groups. At worst, I could say that they are a weird subculture group and what they are doing to themselves is unnatural. Had they kept to themselves I would have been mostly apathetic towards them. But every single one of them are these power hungry and abusive assholes. And the forces surrounding them reveal there's this anti-human agenda being pushed with them.

If it waddles, quacks, and looks like a duck...

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Trannies always scream about listening to trans voices, but if you do you inevitably grow to dislike and feel disgusted by them.

A lot of them are being astroturfed the past two years. It is not organic. If you feel its being shoved down your throat, that's because it is.

What really took off the past 2 years is how children are getting pulled into it. I envy the average Joe who can say none of his nieces, nephews, younger cousins, etc. have been trooned out or genderfelt yet. I think that has been the biggest backfire. Average person could laugh at them for most of history, more recently people can be upset about (or ignore) them hurting adult women, but daughters being anally raped and the rapist conspiracy-tier protected while sons are exposed to drag story hour and gay sex troon books at school without parent's knowledge is playing with fire.

e: One thing that hasn't gone mainstream yet is that hormones do not work and the surgeries are war crime-tier failures. Average normie still thinks HRT is magic and they similarly don't think/know about the genital surgeries (bless), so they just assume The Science is at that level when we all are cursed to know it isn't. If they start having relatives that got HRT in preteen years and SRS in their teens turning to disavow and expose it as adults they will start to wonder why the fuck it was allowed and taxpayer funded when it was so barbaric.

I know normies who think SRS can actually transplant human genitals into someone, which then become fully functional.

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

Monkey D. Garp.

Solid name!

 

[The Punished Mitch]

It certainly has for me, I have always known these people were seriously mentally ill but there are plenty of other flavors of retard out there that get to fuck themselves up so I grudgingly tolerated the idea of trannies being around - much like flamboyant faggots and the like. The unrelenting press to groom ( ever younger ) children into their extreme deviancy is what did it for me and I now fully understand and appreciate why many of our ancestors made every effort to, sometimes violently, suppress sexual degeneracy in any form.

I would personally gas each and every one of these deviants if it meant preventing one kid from getting mutilated, chemically poisoned or getting up on a stage to strip for groups of faggots.

 

[JosephStalin]

Like many others, I basically ignored troons. Knew of one, no big deal.

When they started coming after the kids and trying to shove themselves down my throat they gained my opposition. No special privileges for troons, alphabet people, or anyone. These critters simply do not yet understand how their actions are hurting their movement. They have permanently alienated numbers of possible supporters, or al least numbers who would tolerate them. Not only that, at the rate things are going, it's only a matter of time before angry parents/grandparents/relatives take direct action against those they believe are grooming their children/grandchildren/loved ones.

As a whole, Americans are more tolerant than the government and the media would have you think. But tolerance only goes so far. Pushed sufficiently, Americans start doing something about what they consider the problem.

Once again, government and the media stir the pot. Why? Who benefits? Not the children. Absent governmental/media agitation, the vast majority of Americans get along pretty well.

Always ask, "Why?" Then listen to what is said, and/or not said, in response. What is not said can tell you more than what is said.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Pedophilia is on deck with incest and bestiality not far behind.

I'm just going to say that I don't think these people care about incest or bestiality, at least not in particular. The big push is toward pedophilia specifically.

 

[cybertoaster]

Yeah it's turned me against all the fags and dykes, too. We need to build a big beautiful closet and make the LGBT pay for it.

You really are dense if you think that was the point, then again that's the same mental farts the LGB have regarding criticism of the T, the "if we allow opposition to the Ts exist then we're next" when it reality is that when opposition to the insanity of the Ts reaches a boiling point and explodes the shockwaves will hit LGB too, while if they had defused the situation from the start by not supporting this nonsense they would've avoided this.

But when I manage to drop the truth about trannies in womens prisons, people act entirely disgusted.

Weird how people only started worrying about the trans nonsense when it began to affect women, be it bathrooms, prison rape by a tranny or a girl going trans.

Its like misandry reaches the absurd point that a regular man self-mutilating himself due to propaganda is not as big a deal as a female criminal getting raped in prison, something that happens in male prisons all the time.

Dunno, I just don't care at all what happens to female criminals who already get far shorter sentences than men for the same crimes and get to enjoy better prisons too. If anything them getting raped like male prisoners its a further step towards the equality feminism demands.

 

[Cyborg Braphog]

You really are dense if you think that was the point

Well if the point was to tell you what you wanted to hear then why did you ask?

 

[Lemmingwiser]

And its true, I used to be a good ally. But now I have no use for troids,

Comments like these are always so funny to me.

To me it evokes the image of a guardsman of Troy saying "You know, whatever may have happened, I was good to that wooden horse. But after everything that has happened, I don't feel so positive about that wooden horse anymore."

My question isn't when this will turn around, because it won't, my question isn't whether this might hurt lgb, because it should (if for not other reason that they're generally defensive for t).

My question is would you rather live in the brave new world or the one you're living in?
Do the home deliveries and work from home weigh up against the eldritch horrors who's unsex we must respect?

 

[TrulyMan]

Good thread OP.
I´ve thought about this a couple of times.
But as I try to treat people as individuals being part of a group rather than groups full of individuals it doesn´t really change much for me.

Though I can see how it has for many people.
The bigger problem, I think, is that the degeneracy increased and that some of them started claiming other peoples spaces. Like especially that issue with women sports or in the case of degeneracy going half naked to read stories to children.

I wouldn´t mind a transsexual reading a story to my child to show them "look im just a person too" but the opposite is happening on these drag-queen-story-tellings. Its all sexualized and the books are always ultra-progressive post modernism.
Its not show my child that the person is just like you and me, it´s showing them, if they somehow would ever find themselves there, that they are the opposite.

So Im more wondering who or what is behind this movement? I mean it's the same with Pride parades. Often starting out in countries with a bunch of normal gay people of various predispositions protesting for their rights. But when they get them, it turns into a celebration of the most obscene parts of gay culture.


Maybe Im just looking too much into it.
Rio De Janeiro Carneval ladies show at least as much skin as anyone on a gay parade.

And Id love to go there and families and children go there and nobody is worse off.
I mean could it be that we´re the moralpanicking retards of the 50's today?
I played Doom when I was 10 years old, my dad burned a CD from his buddy at work.
Didnt turn me into a serial killing schoolshooter like they predicted.

So here´s something unusual for the farms, a balanced, not so very confident outlook on things.
Overall, I think the crux of the issue is that different people become trans today. Where as it was incredibly brave in the past, it's more like adopting a protective class today, even though there is stigma with it. I think transgenderism is an escape for many, and the way they push it onto others is a defense mechanism.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Before ''Call me Kailyn'' they weren't as pushed in the mainstream. This all became much more prevalent after 2015. Before that you'd hear more about gay people and gay teens being bullied in their high schools and different campaigns to fight that sort of discrimination. Not so anymore.

I kept seeing this flag being put outside of business's during pride month here in Canada. I wondered what it was and as it turns out: It's the transgender flag. The fact that I saw this more frequently than the standard rainbow one is very telling.



The fatigue is definitely setting in.

 

[Mista House]

I think the more awareness and visibility on troons the more people have seen the absurdity of it. From the horror surgery side to the mental gymnastics to the huge infestation of incels and sexual predators. Troons benefitted in the early days from smoke and mirrors to cover up their shit.

I also think theres a big push for it from the private medical industry as troons are insanely profitable for private medicine.

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

I think militant faggotry & grooming hasn't backfired because both of those things continue to grow while nobody does anything about it. DeSantis passing a law nobody enforces doesn't count.

 

[CarlosDanger]

It didn't really ping on my radar until that kid anally raped that girl in that school and the school tried to cover it up. That's when I said "WHOA! WTF is going on!!"

Yeah and the fucked up thing is, after the school tried to cover it up, after the Biden DOJ listed the victim's father and parents asking questions about this terrorists, Glenn Youngkin only won by 63k votes in the Virginia gubernatorial election held in November 2021, and this issue was the biggest issue in the race. I think the left saw how easily cowed normies are during the pandemic, I think that's when they decided to push the tranny and children grooming stuff all in one go.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

I will never not laugh at them fucking up the fact they had the world's sweetest deal in the sexual minority spaces when they were "Invisible" because at worst all they got were "Haha surprise penis" and surface level aesthetic jokes and the odd cocked brow in public when people barely paid them any mind and just thought they were weird but weird on their own time. There was no moral or character assumption. There was no drive reason or motivation (yet) to actually bother hating them actively. At worst? "Tasteless" jokes really.

Hell the biggest crack they could get was "buffalo bill comparison" and that seemed crass back in the day and you had to be a shock jock to go that far.

"Trans Visibility" made people aware of their worst elements, encouraged and emboldened them, and made them louder, more aggressive and pushy and invasive and generally intolerable. They think drowning out the negative commentary means the negative commentary goes away. (It doesn't)

They readily and happily made themselves amazingly easy to hate, and hard to seriously throw your hat in the ring to support them. With a tranny in every power mod slot and spamming every text field on the internet with "TRANS RIGHTS" You are now overly aware of them, and with awareness comes the ability to contextualize future information about them.

So you hear about all the fucking rapey elements, the weird women hate, the incel tier behavior, the barbaric SRS and HRT practices, the weird obsessions with children, the hard contrast between the huge consent narratives and entitlements of "You're not owed anything from me or my body" then hearing the worst most gravely trucker voice coming out of a disheveled goblin barking that you're a bigot and they're calling your employer unless you throw them some dick/coochie.

And when those are no longer your outliers- That's your BASELINE FUCKING EXPECTATION... You fucking lost the optics battle hard with the normal average person. There are people now who regret supporting gay issues and voting on them because they rightfully felt like they got Trojan Horse'd into it.

So fast forward to today, people aren't just going "Weird but okay" but outright hating them because they did their hardest to make themselves hate-able, you have the most mild memster fortnite children to the most out of touch boomer able to belt out a "Lmao 41 percent" and "Dilate" in the youtube comments when these were niche "Hate Facts" before. It's no longer little fun poking banter or a stage bit but coming from a deserved place of bile. You don't have to be a shock jock to go "Fuck those freaks" full stop anymore.

And back to the TRANS RITES part.

Just "Gay people" you could argue at least in some good faith fashion even as a devil's advocate some shit about love and marriage, visitation rights in hospital stays, partner tax breaks, being able to mildly do gestures without it being verboten and banned like proposing or scheduling holidays, co-habitation and joint accounts adoption etc whatever.

What's the trans rights angle? It's a fucking mess of toddler brain Christmas wish listing that keeps growing, there's no one coherent pillar besides "Transitioning" and that pillar is sinking into the dead sea as they keep adding asterisks to it wanting it to be easier and easier and less vetted and younger and younger. What is a transition at this point? It's anything from saying "I'm this" thanks to gender sociology saying it's all social constructs anyway, to a full course of drugs hormone and genital altering surgery. They've already de-valued their own demand in their ransom list.

TL;DR

Troons ABSOLUTELY fucked up by raising awareness. Because they wanted it to be solely awareness about their "Struggles" and not the current awareness about how fucked up they are, awareness of how risky it is to have your kids and vulnerable people around them, and how absolutely petty their "Struggle" seems to be in contrast.

 

[The Ugly One]

Women's support for trans crap is rising, not falling. Since elections hinge on the woman vote, I would say no, it hasn't backfired.

You really are dense if you think that was the point, then again that's the same mental farts the LGB have regarding criticism of the T, the "if we allow opposition to the Ts exist then we're next" when it reality is that when opposition to the insanity of the Ts reaches a boiling point and explodes the shockwaves will hit LGB too, while if they had defused the situation from the start by not supporting this nonsense they would've avoided this.

Drag Queen Story Hour isn't the Ts. It's the Gs, and organized by the women who run the American Library Association. They all want to be able to groom kids.