How should muslims be dealt with?

How should Muslims be dealt with?

  • Nukes

  • Forced assimilation

  • Walling them off from everyone else

  • Mollification via goats


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I googled cochin, I had never heard that before and just got some Indian port. Who cares about french language anyways when english is the lingua franca ;)

How the fuck can you live in france and still live with your head in the clouds about muslims? For americans at least I can understand and sympathise with it, as they don't get to have the multicultural experiences.
America is one of the most multicultural places in the world. I literally moved here and am doing fine.

Where you fuck up is European multiculturalism means "bend over, mohammad wants to rape your 14 year old daughter with a grooming gang".

American multiculturalism, or as is better highlighted, the melting pot, actually manages to integrate people a hell of a lot better.
 
Mulsim immigration leads to culture clash's with enclave populations. But they are only being human like you blood thirsty fucks.
 
Islam is pretty much incompatible with every other faith out there, which makes sense considering it's essentially some desert warlord's Abrahamic-flavoured cult of personality that managed to somehow live on after his death. I view it in the same vein as how the religion of the Huns was based on the idea that Attila was given a sword that represented his right to rule the entire world, only if this cult carried on after Attila kicked the bucket and somehow grew to consist of 2 billion followers. Every case where Islam has come into contact with other religions, it's always ended in violence, and usually mutual violence. They forcefully converted most of the Jews and Christians of Arabia (killing those that refused to convert) and absolutely annihilated the local polytheists, turned Zoroastrianism from a major religion into a tiny minority faith, and subjugated the Hindus and Buddhists of India on-and-off for decades at a time, just to name a few examples. Granted, the same applies to Christianity, but the Christianity of old that converted people by the sword has been a dead and buried concept for centuries, only remembered fondly by fat NEETS with £50 wish.com crusader larp costumes.

Some people seem to hope Islam will reform and become as accepting as most other major religions, but that is so optimistic it borders on complete delusion - the Quran is the unalterable word of Allah, passed onto the Prophet Muhammad. Anything that is written in the Quran cannot be removed, only interpreted in different ways, and there's only so many ways you can interpret those texts. Any attempt at reforming Islam will always hit this brick wall where there are calls for violence and submission against the infidel in the Quran that can't be removed without making the reformer in question a heretic. And being a heretic is even worse than being an infidel in the eyes of Islam. Any Muslim that tries to reform Islam will inevitably end up in the boot of some jihadi's Toyota pick-up without his head.
We could've gotten close to a potential reformation of Islam in the 70's, but then Persia had an Islamist revolution, and the Saudis had some jihadis seize the Great Mosque of Mecca and cause them to go balls-deep into fundamentalism, and begin spreading said fundamentalism to Western mosques through copious amounts of oil money.

Unfortunately, as it stands, there's no real solution outside deportations of Muslims in non-Muslim countries and non-Muslims in Muslim countries, and that would have it's own myriad of issues regarding cultural clashses and human rights.
 
Islam is pretty much incompatible with every other faith out there, which makes sense considering it's essentially some desert warlord's Abrahamic-flavoured cult of personality that managed to somehow live on after his death. I view it in the same vein as how the religion of the Huns was based on the idea that Attila was given a sword that represented his right to rule the entire world, only if this cult carried on after Attila kicked the bucket and somehow grew to consist of 2 billion followers. Every case where Islam has come into contact with other religions, it's always ended in violence, and usually mutual violence. They forcefully converted most of the Jews and Christians of Arabia (killing those that refused to convert) and absolutely annihilated the local polytheists, turned Zoroastrianism from a major religion into a tiny minority faith, and subjugated the Hindus and Buddhists of India on-and-off for decades at a time, just to name a few examples. Granted, the same applies to Christianity, but the Christianity of old that converted people by the sword has been a dead and buried concept for centuries, only remembered fondly by fat NEETS with £50 wish.com crusader larp costumes.

Some people seem to hope Islam will reform and become as accepting as most other major religions, but that is so optimistic it borders on complete delusion - the Quran is the unalterable word of Allah, passed onto the Prophet Muhammad. Anything that is written in the Quran cannot be removed, only interpreted in different ways, and there's only so many ways you can interpret those texts. Any attempt at reforming Islam will always hit this brick wall where there are calls for violence and submission against the infidel in the Quran that can't be removed without making the reformer in question a heretic. And being a heretic is even worse than being an infidel in the eyes of Islam. Any Muslim that tries to reform Islam will inevitably end up in the boot of some jihadi's Toyota pick-up without his head.
We could've gotten close to a potential reformation of Islam in the 70's, but then Persia had an Islamist revolution, and the Saudis had some jihadis seize the Great Mosque of Mecca and cause them to go balls-deep into fundamentalism, and begin spreading said fundamentalism to Western mosques through copious amounts of oil money.

Unfortunately, as it stands, there's no real solution outside deportations of Muslims in non-Muslim countries and non-Muslims in Muslim countries, and that would have it's own myriad of issues regarding cultural clashses and human rights.

More or less this. Right now, the biggest issue is the fact that Sunni Islam is largely subject to the whims of the Saudi royals, who are de facto leaders thanks to their ownership of Mecca and Medina and their vast wealth.

The House of Saud are very much old-school Islamic fundies even among fundies. They use their wealth to export that to other parts of the world.

It'd be like if Bill Gates joined the Westboro Baptist Church and used his billions to spread it around the world and force it on everyone via Microsoft's influence and wealth.

Granted, WBC were always just impotent attention whores in real life but this is just a hypothetical example.

EDIT - For clarity's sake, the real issue is the Saudi royals and the wealthy American neocons who bankroll their regime
 
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In all seriousness, how should they be exactly dealt with?
In Europe? Stop importing people from Muslim countries until Islam gets its shit together. Deport extremists. Let people shame extremists without calling them bigots. And maybe some of those ultra rich Western philanthropists could use their money to give a bigger platform to reasonable imams instead of throwing it all at trans rights or whatever other autistic causes they're funding.

The USA doesn't have much of an extremism problem but the local Muslim world could still benefit from anti-extremist anti-Sharia law imams being given a louder voice, I suppose. The media could give kids Muslim role models who espouse Western views.

Any attempt at reforming Islam will always hit this brick wall where there are calls for violence and submission against the infidel in the Quran that can't be removed without making the reformer in question a heretic. And being a heretic is even worse than being an infidel in the eyes of Islam. Any Muslim that tries to reform Islam will inevitably end up in the boot of some jihadi's Toyota pick-up without his head.
Western money could be used to protect the "heretics" and demonize the jihadists in the eyes of the public. Shame our billionaires don't care.

Secularized muslims still have an interest in pushing the country towards sharia law. They still want people to stop drinking alcohol, prefferably by making it illegal, for example.
Then everyone should say "Hahaha, no. In this land we pray for the sinners, we don't force them to conform unless what they're doing is hurting others. Let Allah take care of them."
 
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Islam is pretty much incompatible with every other faith out there, which makes sense considering it's essentially some desert warlord's Abrahamic-flavoured cult of personality that managed to somehow live on after his death. I view it in the same vein as how the religion of the Huns was based on the idea that Attila was given a sword that represented his right to rule the entire world, only if this cult carried on after Attila kicked the bucket and somehow grew to consist of 2 billion followers. Every case where Islam has come into contact with other religions, it's always ended in violence, and usually mutual violence. They forcefully converted most of the Jews and Christians of Arabia (killing those that refused to convert) and absolutely annihilated the local polytheists, turned Zoroastrianism from a major religion into a tiny minority faith, and subjugated the Hindus and Buddhists of India on-and-off for decades at a time, just to name a few examples. Granted, the same applies to Christianity, but the Christianity of old that converted people by the sword has been a dead and buried concept for centuries, only remembered fondly by fat NEETS with £50 wish.com crusader larp costumes.

Some people seem to hope Islam will reform and become as accepting as most other major religions, but that is so optimistic it borders on complete delusion - the Quran is the unalterable word of Allah, passed onto the Prophet Muhammad. Anything that is written in the Quran cannot be removed, only interpreted in different ways, and there's only so many ways you can interpret those texts. Any attempt at reforming Islam will always hit this brick wall where there are calls for violence and submission against the infidel in the Quran that can't be removed without making the reformer in question a heretic. And being a heretic is even worse than being an infidel in the eyes of Islam. Any Muslim that tries to reform Islam will inevitably end up in the boot of some jihadi's Toyota pick-up without his head.
We could've gotten close to a potential reformation of Islam in the 70's, but then Persia had an Islamist revolution, and the Saudis had some jihadis seize the Great Mosque of Mecca and cause them to go balls-deep into fundamentalism, and begin spreading said fundamentalism to Western mosques through copious amounts of oil money.

Unfortunately, as it stands, there's no real solution outside deportations of Muslims in non-Muslim countries and non-Muslims in Muslim countries, and that would have it's own myriad of issues regarding cultural clashses and human rights.
fitting name, suddenly Syria and Lebanon don't exist. Ok genius, jerkoff to islam evil more as if you care about totally care about religion :neckbeard:
 
Tell em that if they want to hang around that we will not and never will legalize their honor killing/clit cutting bullshit, and that "Sharia Law" don't mean shit here. You're under our secular law, don't like it, tough, ship your ass back to Saudi Arabia.

As for the Jihadists, isolate them, wall them off in some way, let them butcher each other and live in their precious little medieval city states.
 
America is one of the most multicultural places in the world. I literally moved here and am doing fine.

Where you fuck up is European multiculturalism means "bend over, mohammad wants to rape your 14 year old daughter with a grooming gang".

American multiculturalism, or as is better highlighted, the melting pot, actually manages to integrate people a hell of a lot better.
American fundamentally skims off the creme-de-la-creme of muslim immigrants, due to the massive effort to get here. Their smaller numbers + generally more liberal outlook also mean that they assimilate more easily into the American hegemonic culture, and their children become even more and more immersed in that culture.

Of course, you occasionally get the liberal muslimas who wear Fenty + a hijab while preaching about how peaceful the Quran and #BLM is, or the occasional group of refugees/family immigrants who send their daughters back to the homeland for a 'vacation', but their numbers are a relatively small subset of the population.

Europe gets stuck with the hordes of tight-jeans, black-jacket-wearing male goat farmers who flip out when a girl has the audacity to tell them "No", because getting there is considerably easier due to the distance. In America conversely, Mexicans and Central Americans fill that low-skill mass-illegal immigration role (and I'd say they're still better employed on the whole).
 
They still want people to stop drinking alcohol, preferably by making it illegal, for example.
I don't see the problem with that, as long as they don't start setting shit on fire(which due to being more secularised, i have high hopes they won't).
I mean i 'am sure there's some westerners who want alcohol to be banned too(doesn't matter if it's realistic or not).
 
I don't see the problem with that, as long as they don't start setting shit on fire(which due to being more secularised, i have high hopes they won't).
I mean i 'am sure there's some westerners who want alcohol to be banned too(doesn't matter if it's realistic or not).
Booze is a big deal in Europe. Telling the French or the Italians to ban wine would be an insult to their cultures. And can you imagine Bavaria without Oktoberfest? Besides, banning alcohol just leads to people making moonshine.

A truly secularized Muslim wouldn't try to push his religion on others. It's like Christians who want gay marriage to be legally banned because their holy book says it's a sin, we should be past all that. Civilized people should just live and let live, I think.
 
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I don't see the problem with that, as long as they don't start setting shit on fire(which due to being more secularised, i have high hopes they won't).
I mean i 'am sure there's some westerners who want alcohol to be banned too(doesn't matter if it's realistic or not).

I practically never drink. But fuck off.
 
Build a wall around Middle East and Africa, and let them evolve without outside influence. Not an ounce of raw materials gets out, not a single 7.62x39 round or golden toilet gets in. Look in every 25 years or so to see if something remotely civilized has sprouted up.

My money would be on an eventual relatively secular Persian Empire vol 2, with some lukewarm reformed version of Islam.

Sadly, not practical in terms of realpolitik.
 
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Since we're talking about Islam being incompatible with Western values, I think this comic is relevant:
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At this point in time, the Muslim immigrants woke Europeans go to bat for are often more conservative and authoritarian than the homegrown local Christians they call bigots/nazis/whatever. Their views on homosexuality are a good example of that.


With a little bit of good will, you could apply that to Christianity as well.
Western Christians have stopped killing people for being sinners a long time ago. Heck, the pope himself is willing to wash the feet of Muslims. Christians occasionally try to push their worldview on others but they don't pose much of a physical threat at the moment.
 
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How should muslims be dealt with?
Simple: You ask Alibaba if he wants some snacks while him and this forty cultural enrichers are raping your daughter. You wanted him and his people here, hoping they would keep the lights of the welfare state on while you're refusing to assimilate them into your culture. What did you expect?
 
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isolate them as much as possible on the world stage

check in periodically to see if they've sorted their shit or blown themselves all to hell, whichever comes first
 
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