🐱 How T2 Destroyed the Terminator Franchise

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Terminator 2: Judgment Day remains one of the most popular movies of all time. When it was released in 1991, James Cameron's sequel to The Terminator was the most expensive movie ever made and was easily the highest-grossing film of that year, as well as the most rented movie after its release on VHS and LaserDisc. But its cultural impact lasted much longer than that single year, as Arnold Schwarzenegger immediately became the leading international movie star for more than a decade, and Cameron continued to dominate the box office with his next three blockbusters True Lies, Titanic and Avatar. This cultural behemoth seems like an incredible sequel to celebrate if it weren't for one thing: Terminator 2 is the reason the Terminator franchise failed and could never recover.

Coming out seven years after the first film, Terminator 2 at first seems like a worthy next step in the franchise. With its mix of returning characters and new faces, bigger action set pieces and an upgraded villain thanks to a super slick CGI, the sequel seems to check off all the right boxes. Yet, there are some truly embarrassing changes that not only undermine the effectiveness of the film itself but ultimately derail a franchise before it even had time to get started.

Brutal Horror Film Becomes a Confused Heist Movie in Terminator 2​

The most noticeable and overarching shift between the two films is the wild departure in tone and pacing. 1984's The Terminator is still a paragon of filmmaking, with its tight structure, memorable scenes and perfect performances, from Schwarzenegger's near-silent menace as the T-800 to Linda Hamilton's sincere desperation and courage as Sarah Connor. There's not a second of film to cut, with a deliberate pace that successfully ratchets up the tension all the way to the final scene, as even the interludes of calm are underscored by the T-800's invincible horror that's lurking on the periphery.

Terminator 2 abandons all of that, with a tone that's hard to pin down and a pace that messily flows in starts and stops. Especially with an opening that mirrors the first film -- a pair of time travelers from the future sent to either protect or destroy a person in the present -- Terminator 2sets up a sequel that appears to continue the energy from the first, only to give audiences something entirely different. That's not to say all sequels must stay true to the original, as there are many wonderful examples of follow-ups that undermine an audience's expectations, but the problem with Terminator 2 is that this departure from tone doesn't connect with the franchise as a whole, a change as jarring as it is ineffective.

The plot of Terminator 2 is simple enough to outline in a single sentence, yet its nearly two-and-a-half-hour runtime is loaded with unneeded voice-overs and a plot that can't decide who its main character is or whether it's a heist film, action movie, family drama or buddy comedy. The best element of Terminator 2 is the introduction of the T-1000, played with mild and indifferent creepiness by Robert Patrick, but even with actually exciting scenes with this new villain, he fails to deliver in any important way as his presence isn't maintained and his terror is forgotten once he's off-screen. Perhaps after realizing they created something way too powerful, the only option Cameron had was to just exclude him from the plot, as there are entire chunks of Terminator 2where he isn't in the movie at all.

Schwarzenegger Goes From Assassin to Daddy Way Too Fast in Terminator 2​

It's hard to know whether Schwarzenegger's performance in Terminator 2 is just another casualty of the tone and pacing issues or is actually the cause of them, but either way, his transformation from silent killer to goofy step-father is hard to ignore. According to interviews, Schwarzenegger and Cameron were determined to reform the titular character into one of the good guys, both as a response to Schwarzenegger's success as an action hero since the original Terminator movie was released, as well as an opportunity to take a stand on violence. But once again, due to a confused script and an overly violent set of main characters, the gunfights and explosions actually accomplish exactly the opposite, transforming the upsetting and terrifying violence from The Terminator into meaninglessly cool violence in Terminator 2.

Violence aside, the concept of T-800 turning good isn't even a problem. There are some great examples of villains exploring those better aspects of their humanity, as seen in Star Wars' Darth Vader and Avatar: The Last Airbender's Prince Zuko. The problem is that this entire transformation is done off-screen, mentioned only through dialogue and feels entirely unearned. Especially through a marketing campaign that spoiled the twist before audiences even saw the movie, the T-800 undergoes no metaphysical journey but simply appears in Terminator 2 as a lovable, brainless goofball ready to protect an annoying little boy he was previously hellbent on killing. This would be like if Vader was seen immediately onboard the Millennium Falcon at the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back, learning how to say "We're doomed" from C-3P0.

The T-800 asks those childish questions about pain and tears that lazy filmmakers like to include as a stand-in for an actual investigation into what it means to be human, so by the end of Terminator 2, Schwarzenegger's character hasn't completed some existential breakthrough or any actual growth, but simply remains the same heartless machine who now knows how to say "Hasta la vista, baby" and give out high-fives.

Sarah Conner Regresses to a Powerless Mother Archetype in Terminator 2​

One of the strangest phenomena to emerge in the wake of Terminator 2's release was to continue to define this new version of Sarah Connor as a feminist icon. If someone were to superficially glance at the character, the confusion is understandable: in an era of musclebound, gun-toting male heroes, this '90s version of Connor does seem to be a similarly tough woman warrior. However, the story Terminator 2 tells ultimately strips her of that power, a role she thoroughly earned during her first run-in with the T-800 in the '80s.

The Terminator is a perfect horror movie that uses its unsettling mix of practical gore effects and unpleasant violence to explore modern America through a feminist lens. The film's use of casual sexism, even before Sarah confronts the Terminator, displays a world where the T-800 isn't some new expression of violence but rather a more extreme version of the misogyny that already exists. Even the men who are there to protect her are threatening and dismissive toward her, hardly the heroes anyone would expect. By the end of The Terminator, all the men die, failing to protect her and allowing Sarah to learn that she can save herself.

The Sarah that emerges in Terminator 2 is entirely removed from the strong woman that ended the original film. Yes, she's ripped, shoots guns and even does pull-ups, but the story Cameron tells this time is overwhelmingly regressive. In one of her rare moments of action after teaming up with her son and the recoded T-800, she is unable to go through with the plan and breaks down sobbing while consoled and directed by her teenage son. And at the very end, taking place in a factory that is eerily similar to the ending location of the first film, Sarah Connor is powerless against the T-1000 and must be saved by the men in her life while all she can do is meekly protect her son.

Terminator 2 Left the Franchise Trapped With Nowhere to Go​

Terminator 2 is a confused movie, supposedly a condemnation of male violence that makes that very thing cool and fun, and supposedly about the creative power of women with a main female character who is powerless on her own requiring an entourage of men to save her. But since Terminator 2 was wildly successful, the trajectory of the franchise was redirected to its themes and characters, making all the subsequent Terminatormovies judged on those grounds. Both Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines and Terminator Salvationexplore these similar ideas of machines with human feelings and underprepared heroes with a nuance absent from Terminator 2, yet both films are overly criticized and underappreciated simply because they are not Terminator 2.

People often have fond memories of the movies they watched as kids, and Terminator 2 certainly holds a special place in the minds of gen x and millennials, those born amidst the burgeoning heyday of home video, as well as the dawn of a new era of CGI-focused special effects. But in the 30 years since its release -- especially after the MCU, Star Wars and other franchises brought the concept of worldbuilding to the mainstream as a legitimate way to tell a story -- Terminator 2 now feels truly tragic when juxtaposed against everything that worked in The Terminator.
 
I've literally never seen three paragraphs be so wrong before. It would take me an hour to go over everything wrong with this.
I've never seen such a twisted and insulted reading of the film or the definition of 'feminism' in an article. For these freaks, a 'feminist' is some chick that cuts off her tits and tries to pretend she is a man, in complete rejection of reality. Its so incredibly weird that everyone that brays about 'strong women' can't write them to save their own lives or careers. Its even weirder here because they already made Sarah Conner very strong but also very feminine.

In T1 she's very soft, very empathetic, highly feminine and needing Kyle - but as the tension ratchets she buckles down, using her strength of will to support and drive Kyle as he becomes injured. Then, when she is on her own, she finishes the job that Kyle started with the strength and drive that he helped build within her. At the end, she's pregnant, hopeful - but armed and ready, determined to protect her unborn son. Then in T2 we see that her maternal drive has seen her sacrifice herself by 'shacking up' with every dude that could teach them how to survive and offer protection. She's sacrificed herself time and time again, showing incredible strength, driven by her maternal instinct to safeguard her son. And while she's beefed up quite a bit by the time we see her in the asylum, she's still feminine - she uses her sexuality, guile, and wit to overpower, evade, and defeat the men much larger than her. That she is forced to use her relative weakness to secure guardians and is driven by her maternal desires is what makes her so appealingly feminine. While the setting is fantastic, Sarah Connor is real - her limitations and strengths both in turn. This is why people love her, relate to her, see her come to life on the screen.

Full credit to Linda Hamilton, she portrays perfectly that indomitable will that represents feminine strength - which falls to pieces when she sees John, betrayed by the vulnerability of her overriding maternal drives. When she breaks down at the Dyson household we see how difficult and grinding it has been to be so violent and angry for so many years, she has put herself under incredible stress trying to twist her maternal instincts into paternal guardianship at incredible personal and emotional cost. In the Judgement Day dream sequence she even sees her doppelganger, wearing a dress and playing with children in a highly traditional maternal role, and she is angry that Skynet and the knowledge of the future has stolen a normal motherhood from her - that this Cassandra truth is her burden and master. Finally, in the alternative (and to me canon) ending to T2 we see John fully grown with a child of his own, and Sarah radiating happiness as the honored grandmother, finally able to embrace and express her maternal instincts in the way she wants.

It isn't her rockin' tits or good hair that showcases her femininity, but her emotional motivation, physical vulnerability and deep seated desires to nurture.
 
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Violence aside, the concept of T-800 turning good isn't even a problem. There are some great examples of villains exploring those better aspects of their humanity, as seen in Star Wars' Darth Vader and Avatar: The Last Airbender's Prince Zuko. The problem is that this entire transformation is done off-screen, mentioned only through dialogue and feels entirely unearned.
its a robot programed to be good robot. It knows it's a robot. What more do we need? They cut out that "learn to smile" scene for a reason, even if it's funny.
 
Has it ever occurred to these soy bug men that not every franchise needs to go on for limitless iterations? Sometimes one or two and done is fine. Much like their sex lives.
No, they must consoom product with things that they know and then wait for next product to consoom with other things that they already know.
 
In 1992 and prior nobody even used the word "franchise" for anything except fast food restaurants. Some movies got sequels, some didn't.

You'd have to be a contrarian retard to write this article.
Y'know I could see Cole Smithy writing something like this quite easily. 🤔

Charles is a podcaster and film writer from Massachusetts with a degree in creative writing and literature from Hampshire College.
The same school Trigglypuff went to (remember her?). If there's other notable alumni of the place, I'm drawing a blank.

Hampshire College is basically Oberlin for people too stupid to go to Oberlin. They almost closed a year or so ago, but apparently somebody has coughed up $30 million or so to keep them afloat for now.
 
Terminator 2's pretty overrated but it's far better than the ones after it and this article is so full of shit.
 
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I actually like T3 and one of the main reasons is a constant thread running through the films but brought up here as a criticism:

"The Sarah that emerges in Terminator 2 is entirely removed from the strong woman that ended the original film. Yes, she's ripped, shoots guns and even does pull-ups, but the story Cameron tells this time is overwhelmingly regressive. In one of her rare moments of action after teaming up with her son and the recoded T-800, she is unable to go through with the plan and breaks down sobbing while consoled and directed by her teenage son. And at the very end, taking place in a factory that is eerily similar to the ending location of the first film, Sarah Connor is powerless against the T-1000 and must be saved by the men in her life while all she can do is meekly protect her son."

Sarah Connor is a badass in T2 but she isn't enough of one, because she wasn't trained from birth as a warrior to match machines programmed to do the same
T2's exploration of John's loss of his childhood is vindicated as he supercedes his mother, confirming that her decision to raise him as a future messiah was the right choice

then in T3 he's finally sealed away in the bunker, after being given the experiences of making difficult decisions and learning through loss he needs to lead humanity in future

The future John Connor is the utterly broken, fatalistic and decision driven man he needs to be to save humanity, which Sarah made the decision to make him, despite what it cost both of them
Part of this is she realised she was no match for the original terminator and realised that humans raised in comfort could never match the machines
 
Jeeeeesus H. Imagine still being assblasted over the spectacular failure of Dark Fate-a piece of shit reboot that nobody wanted, a piece of shit everyone has already forgotten about. I remember that faggot Tim Miller gloating that the new protagonist and storyline would "scare the fuck out of closet misogynists". I don't know about that, but it sure as hell deterred people from going to see it. Blowing away John in the first few minutes was a spiteful, cynical slap in the face. And nobody wanted to see two senior citizens, a dyke, and Dora the Explorer battling Skynet anyway.
 
Sarah Connor was pretty cool in T2. Not her fault she got locked up and John taken away. People thought she was crazy. Robot apocalypse from the future? Well they're listening now aren't they? She was right the whole time.

The author apparently missed the fact that T-800 was a Terminator that was reprogrammed by resistance fighters and sent to the past to prevent John from being killed by the T-1000. He's not "suddenly good". He's literally reprogrammed to protect John from the T-1000. The father figure stuff evolves with their relationship. It's pretty touching. So when the T-800 melts himself in lava to destroy the chip in his head it's a very emotional scene. It's like a father sacrificing his life to save his son's. And if you can't see that you are missing the point of the scenes and need to go back to the MCU conveyor belt. Things are less complicated and the colors are pretty.

T2 should have ended the series. Too many franchises go on and on and on chasing dollars. Eventually you lose interest and you shop caring about "Huge Franchise Movie #12". I can't even count how many franchises I've cut off because I could go three lifetimes without wanting to see another entry.

Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley are from a bygone era where women could be cool action heroines without having to remind you about that in every scene. Bennett Dyson was cool at the end without having to tell you how black he was the whole time, even though the character was cast as black to show a black scientist who could help save the world. He sacrificed his life and his research.

Please do not remake. It would be full of "muh diversity" and totally miss the point. I can only imagine the horror.
 
They would probably think Dark Fate is a success. Because in T2, it's all about a woman protecting "a man" (her son) so HE could be a savior. In Dark Fate, the scared little girl IS the savior. None of these maternal instincts making her weak.

and must be saved by the men in her life while all she can do is meekly protect her son.

while all she can do is meekly protect her son.
Don't forget it also had that disgusting white cis male have the moral highground when dealing with his mother's schizo shit and helping reason with her.
 
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