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understood. i support trains rights. choo choo.
I respect transpeople - Change my mind
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I watched an interesting series on Netflix the other day. It is called "Painkiller". It is a retelling of Purdue Pharmaceuticals actions in hiring teams of doctors, bribing FDA officials, and making false claims that started a huge drug epidemic. People who were in pain and people who pretended to be in pain were all being perscribed Oxycontin and everyone but the drug consumers were benefitting greatly. Good doctors and bad were all drawn in by the tremendous amount of money to be made off perscribing these drugs as their patients' lives spiraled.
I think some parallels could be drawn here. People are being drawn in to a lifetime of drug use, and there is even a black market for HRT. Companies, no matter what sector they operate in, are motivated by greed; and all people are susceptible to corruption.
I think some parallels could be drawn here. People are being drawn in to a lifetime of drug use, and there is even a black market for HRT. Companies, no matter what sector they operate in, are motivated by greed; and all people are susceptible to corruption.
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I'm not getting "left behind" if I refuse to follow a bunch of mindless lemmings off a cliff. I'm avoiding disaster.
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Don't be coy. You know damn well this community has a massive plurality who believe troons have disproportionate power given their numbers and a collectively outsized ability to censor dissent, orchestrate outrage campaigns and generally be a giant pain-in-the-ass to anyone less than deferential to their needs. That the powers-that-be have gradually and then suddenly changed even basic communication to accommodate their demands for gender neutrality speaks to their influence on society. Your advocacy for troons will thus be justifiably met with suspicion because you're shilling for people with a vested interest keeping sites like ours offline. Don't act like you're speaking truth to power.
If you're so confident in your beliefs, then go over to counter-currents or AmRen and make a case for diversity, equity, inclusion and multiculturalism as net positives for western societies. Your behavior in this thread is exactly like an anti-racist going into a White Nationalist discussion space and making the case for its opposition.
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It's a free country, if you're at least 18 and want to destroy your body then go right ahead. I'm not going to respect someone who does something that stupid. And I'm also not going to respect the ones who just cross-dress and won't shut up about pronouns because that's also stupid. Biology is very real and it does not give a shit about how you feel and if things aren't fair.
This whole thing is the stupid generational fad/anti-establishment movement of the decade, and easily the worst one since the hippies. And just like the hippies there are going to be some nasty side effects in the not too distant future. The ones who got their genitals operated on and shoot themselves up with hormones are going to be dealing with some major medical issues. But at least the doctors will use their preferred pronouns.
This whole thing is the stupid generational fad/anti-establishment movement of the decade, and easily the worst one since the hippies. And just like the hippies there are going to be some nasty side effects in the not too distant future. The ones who got their genitals operated on and shoot themselves up with hormones are going to be dealing with some major medical issues. But at least the doctors will use their preferred pronouns.
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... are you serious? Can I be honest?
I agree with you entirely. Mostly I think TRAs are annoying, or amusing. I don't feel threatened by their "agenda". They are for the most part just wanting to live a normal life. There are obviously a few exceptions; but there's horrowcows in every community.
I'm not onboard for trans sports bullshit if it means my daughter has to compete against a natal male. I'd prefer it if trans people could use a unisex or family bathroom rather instead of male/female locker rooms at the gym, but in my experience the troons are way more self-conscious about this than cis people. It's like copperheads: they're way more afraid of you than you are of them.
I don't think everyone needs to wear a badge with their pronouns, or introduce themselves and their pronouns, or include it in their email signatures. That's really silly.
And the final objection I have is youth transition; but I see that as more of a parenting-rights issue than a trans issue. After 18, idc, but under 18s shouldn't be making very consequential choices to medically transition until they can fully understand what they're getting into. Social transition, like clothes, name, hair, jewerly: sure, let the kids play with dresses and skirts if they like.
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ITT
"these are my made up imaginary boundaries based on personal feelings. Troonery is OK, as long as it does not trespass on territory I hold dear. Why can't troons just trigger ONLY those blasted mayoservatives instead?"
"these are my made up imaginary boundaries based on personal feelings. Troonery is OK, as long as it does not trespass on territory I hold dear. Why can't troons just trigger ONLY those blasted mayoservatives instead?"
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Personally, I assume if someone presents themselves as a member of a certain subculture, they probably are that and all it entails. So if someone walks around in a Nazi uniform throwing Roman salutes and shouting "Heil Hitler" I'm going to assume they're a Nazi and have certain opinions and behaviors.
Similarly, if someone advertises themselves with garish drag attire, smeared make up, trans flags, and carries around a tranny bat, I'm going to assume they're a severely mentally ill male who wants to groom children until proven otherwise.
Very few people irl fall into that category of just overtly saying "fuck you" with just their personal presentation, so I'll only go straight for the assumption when it's abundantly obvious. For instance, just looking kind of like Richard Spencer or being visibly trans isn't going to trigger that.
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But you’re not gay and you have no kids. What’s the worst that can happen to you, a pooner walks into the locker room while you’re using it?
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cool things about transpeople:
- I like when they voluntarily sterilize themselves
- Abusing cross sex hormones is super bad for you and is going to lead to reduced life expectancy
you can say that it's wrong to hold these opinions, but it's not like anyone forces them to do it, idk, I just think it's the least they can do to remove themselves from the gene pool
- I like when they voluntarily sterilize themselves
- Abusing cross sex hormones is super bad for you and is going to lead to reduced life expectancy
you can say that it's wrong to hold these opinions, but it's not like anyone forces them to do it, idk, I just think it's the least they can do to remove themselves from the gene pool
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What is being able to be concerned about things that might only happen to other people called? I think there's a word for it.
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Since when was that important to you eh
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"I'm merely PRETENDING to be retarded in order to provoke intelligent conversation!"
It's because she's a stupid fucking kike who doesn't know shit about shit, and she's also fat.
soda pimp
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Trans people are worse than niggers. They have the same traits, but the trans person is more likely to play the minority card.
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Except he is neither retarded nor pretending to be retarded. Unlike you, who is pretending to be Trump, an actual retard."I'm merely PRETENDING to be retarded in order to provoke intelligent conversation!"
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You don't consider "I respect transpeople" to be retarded? Are you gay?
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I'll respect anyone who respects me. I'm a woman, call me as such, please. It's not transphobia if I don't want to date you. And please, show some decorum in the changing room.
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I think it is awesome. Perhaps it is you who is the gay one.
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Ahhh, you respect it for its bait potential, and I am retarded for interfering with the bait.
Please accept my humble apologies and abasements, sir. You are correct.
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I really HATE this attitude that what is wrong about this is that they are pushing so-called gender affirming care to kids and minors, that somehow it is ok if a person is an adult. It is not okay. Reasons why:
-- tolerating it normalizes. When something becomes normalized, that is socially acceptable, more people do it. People have much less individual autonomy than most in the Anglo-American tradition understand. Shrier articulated in describing how transgenderism is a social craze. It is a sociological phenomenon.
- transgenderism no less insane than the inane, nonsensical babbling of a paranoid schizophrenic who thinks bug men out to get him can seep through the vents in the wall or some other nutter shit that is not just paranoid but contrary to reality. A person is either born as a man or woman--not assigned a gender at birth. That is immutable. The abomination known as a rot pocket or stinkditch is NOT a vagina, can never be a vagina. We used to put insane people in aslyums. Now we not only indulge their insanity, but promote it. No.
- the other thing is what other people do affects everyone else. If a young person troons out, that is going to affect that person's family. It is also will affect, even indirectly, persons who would otherwise take a romantic or sexual interest. The transgender craze seems to be really going after the zoomer women and the generation after that, such that it could have a somewhat similar effect to China's "one baby" policy where the supply of young women was diminshed (although not quite on that scale). If ten percent of young women troon themselves out, that is so many less chairs in the game of musical chairs that is the dating and courting game in high school, college, and young adult life.
This belies your "what other people in their own lives is none of my or society's business. Single motherhood, rise of no fault divorce has still not unleashed the explosion of grave societal ills that continue to emanate from it. Hippie bullshit should not have been tolerated then and this should not be tolerated now.
Are you out of your fucking mind? Have you seen the twitter accounts that expose troons for the nutters they are, or perused the transgender subreddit? There is nothing normal about it because trying to change one's sex--or one's gender (different word's) same meaning.
I do have compassion for young people, at least when they have not yet passed the point of no return. But I also care because it does affect me and society. This absurdly naive creed, born from the boomers, that what any person does in the privacy of his own bedroom needs to be discredited and expunged from our public conscience.