I respect transpeople - Change my mind

Null mentioned something about the rate of sex crimes committed by women having gone up by 1000% since they started counting the crimes committed by trannies to their chosen gender. I'm too lazy to provide a source, but I choose to believe this to be true.
Glancing at some stats from about 20 years ago put female perpetrators at about 1.5% of all sex crimes, going as high as 5% when prison offences are included. I don't think it's likely that there's a study anywhere claiming 50% of all sex crimes are committed by women.
 
Glancing at some stats from about 20 years ago put female perpetrators at about 1.5% of all sex crimes, going as high as 5% when prison offences are included. I don't think it's likely that there's a study anywhere claiming 50% of all sex crimes are committed by women.
I think Null was talking about the Engloids reporting a 84% increase in female pedophiles it's important to note that in this article they talk about women who "raped children" and in the UK the law dictates that rape can only be done with a penis.
 
Glancing at some stats from about 20 years ago put female perpetrators at about 1.5% of all sex crimes, going as high as 5% when prison offences are included. I don't think it's likely that there's a study anywhere claiming 50% of all sex crimes are committed by women.
That's horseshit.

Sexual Assaulters in the United States: Prevalence and Psychiatric Correlates in a National Sample
Table on Page 1382

Column Sexual Assaulters

Men 56%
Women 44%

Column Non-sexual Assaulters

Men 48%
Women 52%
 
I think Null was talking about the Engloids reporting a 84% increase in female pedophiles.
Thank you, this looks much more reasonable.

I'm trying to give it a sniff test with the numbers I can find, and the 2020 count puts the total transwomen prisoners with rape convictions in England and Wales at 36. I don't know how many were against children, but even if we get really uncharitable and assume they all were, that's only 36 out of the 2,297 female child sex offenders. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like this increase is almost entirely down to to better awareness and law enforcement responses towards female offenders, and the bump from males being reclassified to females is pretty negligable.
 
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Thank you, this looks much more reasonable.

I'm trying to give it a sniff test with the numbers I can find, and the 2020 count puts the total transwomen prisoners with rape convictions in England and Wales at 36. I don't know how many were against children, but even if we get really uncharitable and assume they all were, that's only 36 out of the 2,297 female child sex offenders. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like this increase is almost entirely down to to better awareness and law enforcement responses towards female offenders, and the bump from males being reclassified to females is pretty negligable.
That's assuming they get put in prison for it. I don't have any numbers for this but I've seen several articles of "trans women" being spared prison because they don't know what to do with them as far as sending them to male or female facilities. They could also be sticking them in mens prisons but still count them as female offenders, britbongs are crazy like that
 
That's assuming they get put in prison for it. I don't have any numbers for this but I've seen several articles of "trans women" being spared prison because they don't know what to do with them as far as sending them to male or female facilities. They could also be sticking them in mens prisons but still count them as female offenders, britbongs are crazy like that
Standard practice in the UK seems to be to put transwomen sex offenders in male prison. I'd be really surprised to hear child rapists are getting noncustodial sentences without anyone knowing about it and kicking up a stink.

It definitely looks like there might be a disproportionate propensity towards sex crimes in transwomen but this is not the dataset to pull it from.
 
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Standard practice in the UK seems to be to put transwomen sex offenders in male prison. I'd be really surprised to hear child rapists are getting noncustodial sentences without anyone knowing about it and kicking up a stink.

It definitely looks like there might be a disproportionate propensity towards sex crimes in transwomen but this is not the dataset to pull it from.
Transwomen follow male crime patterns instead of female ones, which would also mean they are more likely to commit sex crimes against children. Transwomen are more likely to be convicted of sex crimes than normal men.
 
Transwomen follow male crime patterns instead of female ones, which would also mean they are more likely to commit sex crimes against children. Transwomen are more likely to be convicted of sex crimes than normal men.
Yeah, I'm seeing 18% of the men in prison having sex offences compared to 50% of the transwomen, so there's already something wrong with the "male crime pattern". I'm assuming transwomen must either be grossly underrepresented in other kinds of male-pattern crime, like gang and career criminal shit, or overrepresented in sex crimes.

I pulled population data, and did some quick averaging, and the results I got back are 0.04% of men are currently incarcerated in prison for a sex crime in the UK compared to 0.03% of transwomen. Unless I did something wrong it looks fairly proportionate to me.
 
I think people are really missing the importance of the trans rights issue, as it's not something about the thing itself, but rather what it represents.
In politics there are subversive actions and direct actions which are used to achieve an aim. Direct actions come with accountability based on results while subversive actions come with consequences if they are observed and revealed.
For example, getting Roe overturned and banning abortion by legislation is a direct action with political consequences for people who supported it.
By contrast, if politicians were to infiltrate social media companies and influence the distribution of information to craft a political narrative which would make the people want to ban abortions and press for legislation that would be a subversive action, and the blame can be passed anywhere. It is hard to directly act against subversion.
The victimhood movements of the past decades have only been propped up and enabled as a subversive action to enable the suppression of speech, political dissidence and free market competition. The only difference with trannies is that they are as a whole silly or creepy often a macabre mockery of what they seek to emulate. This allows people on the right to engage directly with agents of subversion and to assign blame to those who support it behind the scenes. Dragging them onto the actual playing field instead of being spectators and going after them. Those who are skilled only with active actions(The Right) can now effectively engage with people who have been winning politically for the last two decades with subversive actions(The Left) on the tranny front.
 
I don't think this is a joke anymore. I think this is a cry for help. Someone's forcefemming Dyn and the only way he can let people know is making retarded posts on the farms.
Who is it that's spiking you with the estrogen dude? Your dealer?
 
I think the primary issue with respecting trans people is that what is being demanded has gone far beyond standards of courtesy, respectful human interaction, and basic human rights. I'm not going to go hate crime some random trans person.

But as an activist movement and political movement, the things they demand range from intrusive (not using preferred pronouns is something that can be punished, and places are moving to make it a legal punishment) to actively destructive (conflating "sex", an objective reality with "gender", an entirely subjective individual experience in law makes many laws meant to benefit or protect women, like Title IX in the US, completely meaningless.)

The trans community also does not believe in any sort of gatekeeping, which makes sense since how does one gatekeep a completely subjective individual experience. However, this makes the trans community vulnerable to predators, general perverts, and bad actors, since there is no real definition of what "trans" even is - look at the huge variety of "non-binary" identities. It's not people with extreme and severe gender dysphoria going through psychological and medical treatment to attempt to live a satisfying life. Literally any one can claim to be trans at any time, and activists have made "self id" the standard they push for, meaning any pervert who wants to look at little girls in a changing room can just say he's trans if questioned, and can flash his semi erect penis at little girls (see the WI Spa incident, and the incidents at Canadian pools).

While you may want to say that's not all trans people, and it's not, the demands the trans community have made have opened that door with no concern for the consequences, and since there is no criteria for being trans, the pedos with hard drives full of child porn, and the violent rapists discovering their new gender identity conveniently in prison are just as valid legally as someone who spent decades in therapy for gender dysphoria and just wants to live a quiet life blending in as their preferred gender.

I can feel compassion for individual people, while still seeing how destructive and dangerous the things their community demands are to others and society in general. The ideology that has fueled the trans movement is far beyond what should be acceptable, and is eroding areas that are established for safety or freedom. Just the levels of censorship they have caused both online and in real life should be worrying, not to mention the long-term consequences that go hand in hand with wide scale medical treatments for an identity.
 
Considering how trannies have been responsible for a significant amount of the downtime, de-platforming, defamation and slander of the Kiwifarms I have a suspicion that users on this forum miiight be just a bit biased towards this discussion surrounding treating them with respect.
 
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