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But God wants it to be used for procreation. Homosexuals therefore need to repent and abstain from having homosexual relations in order to enter the kingdom of heaven. Since I want to save their souls, I came up with a proposal that England under the true monarchy provides chemical castration drugs in order to make them asexual so that they are not tempted. It is an act of love towards them because it increases their change of salvation.
You are aware that homosexuals who were chemically castrated against their will have a staggeringly high suicide rate, right? If you really wanted to save their souls, you'd encourage them to become celibate monks like the Church used to do.
 
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You're an idiot.
Chemical castration was what cost us Alan Turing, a man possessed of a mind infinitely greater than yours.
More to the point, the saving of one's soul is an act of faith of the individual, not a legally/regally mandated behaviour. Of course, you'd know that if you actually studied the faith you espoused.
 
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I attend a regular college but none of the classes talked about homosexuality in animals. I looked at the article and while Bonobos, and Orangutans seem to have a large amount of homosexual behaviour, our closest relatives, Chimpanzees were not on the list of primates with significant homosexual behaviour, indicating that homosexuality in hominins is an unnatural occurrence that is caused by environmental factors rather than evolutionary factors. What evolutionary benefit is there for homosexuality in the human species?

And the human species does not have special "worker" classes that do not engage in reproduction so that is not a good argument.

That's the National Organization for Marriage study that was discredited right?

The Morris study claims that Chimpanzees don't ever exhibit homosexual behaviours, but that can quite easily be put down to a lack of study. Other species who have been investigated for this behaviour in more detail, like the bonobo, are near parity with humans to their genetic closeness to chimpanzees and exhibit promiscuous bisexuality as the norm.

As for what the evolutionary benefit is, you're aware of the Nurse/Harem Keeper theory right? We know animals such as packs of canines with males who only exhibit homosexual behaviours act in the role of the childminder, and packs with a gay nurse to watch the pups of the alpha enjoy far better infant survival rates. The same trait has been observed in primates, primate groups with the so-called "Super Uncles" or "Nurses" likewise enjoy lower infant mortality rates.

The more males in a tribe, males that don't have children of their own and can devote themselves to protecting their leaders offspring, the better the survival rate of the young who (assuming both the leader and the nurse come from the same genetic stock) are likely to pass on either the gay gene or learned homosexual behaviours (whichever cause you to sign up to, the outcome is the same in this instance).

For these "Super Uncles", we've only to look to human history such as the Sacred Band of Thebes to see examples of it. The Band was at one time one of the foremost fighting forces in Ancient Greece, with the entry requirement of having a homosexual lover (and no wife). Plutarch wrote quite a lot about how the "bonds" forged by these men encouraged them to fight far harder to protect the men they fought alongside, and unlike other armies of the time did not suffer the same level of infighting or propensity to mutiny. The sex served a very important purpose, and still does among many species.

You are aware that homosexuals who were chemically castrated against their will have a staggeringly high suicide rate, right? If you really wanted to save their souls, you'd encourage them to become celibate monks like the Church used to do.

Benedict XVI changed this a few years ago, Homosexuals aren't to be admitted to the priesthood or religious orders anymore. Catholicism no longer places a distinction between paedophillia, pederasty or homosexuality, and identifies any "Same sex attracted individual" as being inclined to all of those things.
 
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You are aware that homosexuals who were chemically castrated against their will have a staggeringly high suicide rate, right? If you really wanted to save their souls, you'd encourage them to become celibate monks like the Church used to do.
The suicides are due to them being treated badly by those around them. The English government will treat homosexuals humanely and the doctors will assure them that it is not their fault and they were likely born that way, but that the drugs will help them become asexual so that they will do better at serving their evolutionary purpose of being the "super uncles"(as Fagatron said) they were meant to be. And teaching that suicide causes damnation will discourage people from committing suicide.

There is literally no evidence of this.
The bible story of Onan being condemned for spilling his seed is evidence.
 
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The suicides are due to them being treated badly by those around them. The English government will treat homosexuals humanely and the doctors will assure them that it is not their fault and they were likely born that way, but that the drugs will help them become asexual so that they will do better at serving their evolutionary purpose of being the "super uncles"(as Fagatron said) they were meant to be. And teaching that suicide causes damnation will discourage people from committing suicide.

They only function as the Super Uncles because the mating bond meets needs. Packs with a Super Uncle that does not have these needs met do not enjoy the same low infant mortality rate, and will still rebel against the pack leader like a normal breeding male. The sexual fulfilment, companionship and enabling environment are what inspires this nurturing behaviour, they don't display it without it and revert instead to aggression even if they don't use the females when victorious.

There's also the problem that chemically castrating a male, as we saw with Turing, causes them to lose most of their muscle mass, develop degenerative diseases and manic depression. You're not just cutting away sexual urges, someones sexuality is still part of someone's personality and core being. It's not the be all and end all, but it's still part of what makes someone who they are.

Also, discouraging people from committing suicide does sweet fuck all. Look at stuff like the high suicide rates in the Catholic Magdalene Laundries.

The Bible story of Onan being condemned for spilling his seed is evidence.

The man Yahweh murdered for refusing to impregnate his dead brother's widow. What fine morality. I adore how you ignore the prohibitions regarding yeast, and yet obsess frantically over two lines in Leviticus.
 
The bible story of Onan being condemned for spilling his seed is evidence.
The one killed for refusing to fuck his brother's widow?

Amazing that nowadays few people procreate with the brother's wife anymore. Where has our moral standards gone?
 
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They only function as the Super Uncles because the sexual act forges a bond that meets both sexual and emotional needs. Packs with a Super Uncle that does not have these needs met do not enjoy the same low infant mortality rate, and will still rebel against the pack leader like a normal breeding male. The sexual fulfilment, companionship and enabling environment are what inspires this nurturing behaviour, they don't display it without it and revert instead to aggression even if they don't use the females when victorious.

There's also the problem that chemically castrating a male, as we saw with Turing, causes them to lose most of their muscle mass, develop degenerative diseases and manic depression. You're not just cutting away sexual urges, someones sexuality is still part of someone's personality and core being. It's not the be all and end all, but it's still part of what makes someone who they are.

Also, discouraging people from committing suicide does sweet fuck all. Look at stuff like the high suicide rates in the Catholic Magdalene Laundries.
That is actually a good point on how castration causes other medical problems. So now instead of chemical castration, they need to be taught abstinence.
The man Yahweh murdered for refusing to impregnate his dead brother's widow. What fine morality. I adore how you ignore the prohibitions regarding yeast, and yet obsess frantically over two lines in Leviticus.
Well the prohibitions regarding yeast were for celebrating the Passover which is now replaced with Easter under the New Covenant. However homosexual behavior is still forbidden under the New Covenant according to 1 Corinthians 6:10.

So where does Bowser jr and star wars fit into all this again?
They are part of the canon of a parallel universe where the true monarch was put on the throne.

@Jacob Harrison how did you discover this forum, and what made you want to join?
Someone on Fundies Say the Darnedest Things encouraged me to create an account here since I am banned on their main site, their forums, and their reddit.
 
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They are part of the canon of a parallel universe where the true monarch was put on the throne.

It's Corinthian's 6:9, and Jesus also had this to say in Matthew 5:17-20.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

The reason Catholics don't follow the prescriptions to circumcise and Kashrut is because of the apostles ability to "bind and loose". They cherrypicked laws they thought would be difficult to follow to abolish (and the Pope has followed suit later with Ursury). But in any case we I'm glad your urge to maim has been reduced.

They are part of the canon of a parallel universe where the true monarch was put on the throne.

Could you outline the story for us? The wiki was confusing.
 
Yes because Henry VII was absolutely the first person to EVER seize the English throne despite having no legitimate claim to it. William Duke of Normandy had as much right to the Throne as Henry did, and a massive bastard army of angry Normans. In fact, our current queen can tentatively trace her lineage to the one established by William ERGO if you consider him ground zero for post Roman English royalty then she has as much claim as anyone. What about Harold and his line? Or even Harald Hardrada who had a longstanding claim to the throne via his nephew. Leave Liz alone, we like Liz.
 
It's Corinthian's 6:9, and Jesus also had this to say in Matthew 5:17-20.



The reason Catholics don't follow the prescriptions to circumcise and Kashrut is because of the apostles ability to "bind and loose". They cherrypicked laws they thought would be difficult to follow to abolish (and the Pope has followed suit later with Ursury). But in any case we I'm glad your urge to maim has been reduced.



Could you outline the story for us? The wiki was confusing.
I am trying to organize the story and make it make sense.
 
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The one killed for refusing to fuck his brother's widow?

Amazing that nowadays few people procreate with the brother's wife anymore. Where has our moral standards gone?

He fucked her but he pulled out. That is the sin of Onan. He spilled his seed on the ground, but the context is what is important.

The reason it was a sin was he was obligated by divine law to take his late brother's place and give his brother's wife offspring. By pulling out he frustrated that purpose.

It is a modern thing to attach a global rule to that against any form of non-procreative sex.
 
Yes because Henry VII was absolutely the first person to EVER seize the English throne despite having no legitimate claim to it. William Duke of Normandy had as much right to the Throne as Henry did, and a massive bastard army of angry Normans. In fact, our current queen can tentatively trace her lineage to the one established by William ERGO if you consider him ground zero for post Roman English royalty then she has as much claim as anyone. What about Harold and his line? Or even Harald Hardrada who had a longstanding claim to the throne via his nephew. Leave Liz alone, we like Liz.
William had a legitimate claim to the throne because Edward the Confessor promised him the throne and Harold Godwinson swore a sacred oath on holy relics that he would support William's succession to the throne. The Yorkists followed the legitimate line of succession from William because their line was senior in primogeniture.
 
William had a legitimate claim to the throne because Edward the Confessor promised him the throne and Harold Godwinson swore a sacred oath on holy relics that he would support William's succession to the throne. The Yorkists followed the legitimate line of succession from William because their line was senior in primogeniture.
William claim the throne was might. He took the throne by force and it was dubious that Harold had swore a sarced oath to him.
 
William had a legitimate claim to the throne because Edward the Confessor promised him the throne and Harold Godwinson swore a sacred oath on holy relics that he would support William's succession to the throne. The Yorkists followed the legitimate line of succession from William because their line was senior in primogeniture.
That's basically just medieval conjecture and mythologizing of a canonized saint. There's no evidence to suggest this. If anything Edward Ætheling had a claim as he was closest to Edwards line and a member of the house of Wessex.
 
He fucked her but he pulled out. That is the sin of Onan. He spilled his seed on the ground, but the context is what is important.

The reason it was a sin was he was obligated by divine law to take his late brother's place and give his brother's wife offspring. By pulling out he frustrated that purpose.

It is a modern thing to attach a global rule to that against any form of non-procreative sex.
This is from Catholic Answers and it shows that not giving his brother's wife offspring is not the only reason he was killed.
The biblical penalty for not giving your brother’s widow children was public humiliation, not death (Deut. 25:7–10). But Onan received death as punishment for his crime. This means his crime was more than simply not fulfilling the duty of a brother-in-law. He lost his life because he violated natural law, as Jewish and Christian commentators have always understood. For this reason, certain forms of contraception have historically been known as "Onanism," after the man who practiced it, just as homosexuality has historically been known as "Sodomy," after the men of Sodom, who practiced that vice (cf. Gen. 19).
 
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