EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
Those are anti-riot policemen in Metz covered in shit from shitbombs (cacatov, a play on words from caca, shit in french, and Molotov cocktails) that had been thrown at them by protestors, they are being more and more widely used each passing Saturdays.

They're not going to feel so safe behind those shields when the cacatovs turn into molotovs, which at this point I'm wondering why it hasn't happened already.
 
They're not going to feel so safe behind those shields when the cacatovs turn into molotovs, which at this point I'm wondering why it hasn't happened already.
They were already used plenty of times, however french anti-riot police-force have fireproof uniforms so it's not that effective.
 
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France: Government uses for the first time chemical markers and nano-particles on protesters
Unbeknownst to them, Yellow Vests and bystanders have become guinea pigs for the world's first experiment on humans with nanoparticles and chemical markers whose effect on biological organisms is still poorly known.
For the French government, these are harmless "coded chemical marking products" that permeate the skin, hair and clothing of targeted people for a period of time varying from several weeks to decades.

Officially this fuzzy technology has never been used against human beings.

However, accurate information gathered from some security professionals indicates that under Act XVIII yellow vests, water cannons and gases containing DNA markers and nano-particles were used against protesters without that they have not been warned beforehand.

In addition to chemical markers and nanoparticles, the effects of which are very poorly known on human health, the addition of new psychotropic substances to CS gases is similar to a large scale experimentation with new social control techniques similar to those the worst dystopias of science fiction movies and novels.

These "DNA weapons" developed in Great Britain and widely used in Israel contain chemical and biological substances whose harmfulness to human health has been deliberately ignored, especially in Israel where Palestinian detainees claim to have contracted various types of cancer following their DNA labeling or the use of other control techniques involving nano-particles that may have damaged the genetic material of the cells of their organisms.

The French government has admitted to using chemical markers on protesters as an experiment during the demonstrations of May 1, 2018. The people should have been warned that they would be the subject of prohibited experiments.

For the defenders of such processes, the products of DNA or RNA labeling do not represent any danger but their purpose is not supported by any scientific evidence.

It is known that the impact of most biochemicals used by or on humans can be detected only after years since most non-positive studies are systematically censored by the big companies in the chemical industry.

The use of psychotic substances for the control of demonstrations and urban riots has proved much more dangerous on the ground.

In 2014, law enforcement in Ukraine experimented with LSD gas bombs provided by an Israeli company over protesters in Kiev and the result was catastrophic: the targeted protesters became much more agitated and violent and some began to have violent convulsions before throwing themselves to the police vehicles, requiring the use of live ammunition to stop them.

In Brazil, the police experimented as early as 2016 chemicals supposed to calm the rioters but the experience turned out badly and the police ended up reducing the violence by the use of weapons of war. In reality, the substance used resembled an extremely dangerous neurotoxic drug that had a direct impact on the nervous system.

In Israel, some of the gases used against protesters contain endocrine disruptors, hallucinogenic substances and LSD in order to make the protesters more violent by the desired effect in order to justify the use of snipers and very high velocity shots (alloy bullets). special that may have an initial speed of 1200 m / second).

The gases used in France for the maintenance of order include CS ( (2-chlorobenzylidene malononitrile ), irritants but recently neurotoxic that can profoundly alter the capacity of perception and consciousness.

Other types of nanoparticles are increasingly used in policing, but their use remains secret because even police officers who use them do not always know the nature of the non-lethal weapon they use. .

With the chemical markings of individuals, our societies have taken a step further in the totalitarian control of the individual, to the roots of his hair and his DNA.
Metal Gear and Deus Ex were not meant to be reality.
 

Metal Gear and Deus Ex were not meant to be reality.
"Intelligence indicates they're the ones behind the problems in Paris"

I'm sure the plan is to either target the marked people with aggressive deplatforming, job wise or financial, or arrest them in a no-knock raid.
 
"Intelligence indicates they're the ones behind the problems in Paris"

I'm sure the plan is to either target the marked people with aggressive deplatforming, job wise or financial, or arrest them in a no-knock raid.
It's for when France introduces their own version of the social credit score. Guess who's going to start with the fewest points?
 
It's for when France introduces their own version of the social credit score. Guess who's going to start with the fewest points?

Nah, man. Russia or Hungary would be more likely to introduce a social credit score system over France.

France, and forgive me for generalising, is a country filled with lazy, unmotivated people who are more angered by the exceptional closure of the local PMU (café) where they get their morning coffee and croissant than by climate change, recycling, immigration, fraud etc.

Hell, speaking of recycling, here in France (at least in Paris and in the South-West, which are regions I'm very familiar with) nobody cares. Take London by contrast - there, you get fined if you don't recycle. And the garbagemen won't even collect your trash. In France on the other hand, nobody gives a fuck. Same goes for littering, animal excrements, etc.

The social credit score system won't make anyone more motivated, or environmentally friendly, or respectful of the law, the government, or other people. French people just wouldn't care.
And the government wouldn't dare removing any social benefits or impose actually severe punishments on those that would have a low social credit score for fear of a revolution, because that would be damaging to a regular French person's routine.

Just look at the Yellow Vest protests. That shit went down just because of a fuel tax increase. Imagine now what would happen if the government were to change other aspects of people's daily lives?
 
I posted this over at the Article 13 thread but I think, I should share it here too.

I was in Berlin at the protest, up to 30000 people.
In Munich was up to 50000
In Cologne was up to 20000
etc.
Some of my videos I took.


















WOW

















The mass of people was long.

















The next generation is redpilled.
 
Nah, man. Russia or Hungary would be more likely to introduce a social credit score system over France.

France, and forgive me for generalising, is a country filled with lazy, unmotivated people who are more angered by the exceptional closure of the local PMU (café) where they get their morning coffee and croissant than by climate change, recycling, immigration, fraud etc.

Hell, speaking of recycling, here in France (at least in Paris and in the South-West, which are regions I'm very familiar with) nobody cares. Take London by contrast - there, you get fined if you don't recycle. And the garbagemen won't even collect your trash. In France on the other hand, nobody gives a fuck. Same goes for littering, animal excrements, etc.

The social credit score system won't make anyone more motivated, or environmentally friendly, or respectful of the law, the government, or other people. French people just wouldn't care.
And the government wouldn't dare removing any social benefits or impose actually severe punishments on those that would have a low social credit score for fear of a revolution, because that would be damaging to a regular French person's routine.

Just look at the Yellow Vest protests. That shit went down just because of a fuel tax increase. Imagine now what would happen if the government were to change other aspects of people's daily lives?
Sad but true. I wonder when we (real French people not you, filthy immigrant !) stopped caring, or if we even cared at all at any point because I don't think we ever made much sense as a Nation. When other western countries built their national identities in the 19th century France somehow fucked it up real bad and never managed to fix it since. There are a bunch of reasons for that, including weird universalist ideals from the 18th century, very strong regional cultures and identities that were (and still are) alternatively celebrated and fought against, and an immigration policy throughout the 20th century that is best summed up by the phrase "Everyone's welcome but fuck you" which only resulted in an everlasting confusion for everyone.

Now it's a country that doesn't know what it is or what it wants to be, we're just very angry, depressed and desperate for something to rally behind. But at least we've had some very fine people describing that mess :
What you call a race is nothing but a collection of riffraff like me, bleary-eyed, flea-bitten, chilled to the bone. They came from the four corners of the earth, driven by hunger, plague, tumours, and the cold, and stopped here. They couldn't go any further because of the ocean. That's France, that's the French people.
Céline in Journey to the End of the Night
 
Nah, man. Russia or Hungary would be more likely to introduce a social credit score system over France.

France, and forgive me for generalising, is a country filled with lazy, unmotivated people who are more angered by the exceptional closure of the local PMU (café) where they get their morning coffee and croissant than by climate change, recycling, immigration, fraud etc.

Hell, speaking of recycling, here in France (at least in Paris and in the South-West, which are regions I'm very familiar with) nobody cares. Take London by contrast - there, you get fined if you don't recycle. And the garbagemen won't even collect your trash. In France on the other hand, nobody gives a fuck. Same goes for littering, animal excrements, etc.

The social credit score system won't make anyone more motivated, or environmentally friendly, or respectful of the law, the government, or other people. French people just wouldn't care.
And the government wouldn't dare removing any social benefits or impose actually severe punishments on those that would have a low social credit score for fear of a revolution, because that would be damaging to a regular French person's routine.

Just look at the Yellow Vest protests. That shit went down just because of a fuel tax increase. Imagine now what would happen if the government were to change other aspects of people's daily lives?
That's probably very true, until there is a boot stomping on a human face, forever.
 
https://twitter.com/CharlesBaudry/status/1111974877697847299 (http://archive.fo/DhpnD)
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1111905835897286656 (http://archive.fo/XN833)
https://twitter.com/Gerrrty/status/1111686612382089216 (http://archive.vn/S12Sz)

French cops with the IRL gay ops:

Lotta vests at the Eiffel Tower and the Trocadero:

The cops teargassed it shortly after, naturally.

Antifa fags (or maybe Macron's paid agitators) get denied their traditional "Burn trash cans" dance:

Another frog rush. The guy in the wheelchair is kinda funny:

They cheer firefighters then boo cops which isn't surprising, since it's not firefighters literally cracking skulls every weekend:

The "cracking skulls" line is barely hyperbole, by the way:

Name of that lady with the gay flag who got her head cracked on the pavement last week:

France is a strange place:

Gotta say, 20 straight weeks of a protest movement is pretty impressive. I wonder what role the warm weather of Spring and Summer will play since they seem pretty determined to go that long and beyond if need be.
 
sooner or later some country is going to intervene simply because its in their interests for the vests to win. the only question is who fires first?
Either the russians or the chinks, and the frogs better hope that america beats them
 
sooner or later some country is going to intervene simply because its in their interests for the vests to win. the only question is who fires first?

I've been wondering what would happen if shots start being fired.
The French cops finally open up on the protesters, so the YV start arming themselves and civil conflict starts. Which bogs down everything instead of Macron winning immediately. So he runs to Mama Merkel and cries for help. She sends the German armed forces.

But the French military don't like the idea of having another country just waltzing right in with tanks and soldiers and fight back.
The EU ends with a military coup causing a new French government to be formed. Which leaves the EU as its first action. Everyone else then just exits as being in the EU didn't stop one country from invading another. It didn't stop two despots oppressing the common people.

But in all seriousness, something has to give at some point. It's been what, 5 months of protests now? That's crazy.
Sooner or later, the YV have to storm parliament so a new government is formed. Or Macron utterly crushes them and it ends there.
Neither side seems to want to relent so what happens next is anyone's guess.
 
I haven't seen that much information on Geneviève Legay, the 70+yo woman who fell during act 19, because the aftermath is funny

So she fell and was transported to the hospital in a coma, woke up the day after. The police report that was given to the media was found out to be a lie by the gouvernment, and the original police report says that she was pushed, while the gouvernment's said she fell on her own.

Then she tried to have "Le Quotidien", a show that a lot of people watch (they're leftists but most of what they say is at least a little interesting) come and interview her. That's when the Embargo started: guards in front of her door, no communication on her well-being outside of the hospital, total black-out, and so she couldn't be interviewed AT HER REQUEST (she called them) because the guards didn't let the journos go in the room.

No free speech for weak people.
 
I've been wondering what would happen if shots start being fired.
The French cops finally open up on the protesters, so the YV start arming themselves and civil conflict starts. Which bogs down everything instead of Macron winning immediately. So he runs to Mama Merkel and cries for help. She sends the German armed forces.

But the French military don't like the idea of having another country just waltzing right in with tanks and soldiers and fight back.
The EU ends with a military coup causing a new French government to be formed. Which leaves the EU as its first action. Everyone else then just exits as being in the EU didn't stop one country from invading another. It didn't stop two despots oppressing the common people.

But in all seriousness, something has to give at some point. It's been what, 5 months of protests now? That's crazy.
Sooner or later, the YV have to storm parliament so a new government is formed. Or Macron utterly crushes them and it ends there.
Neither side seems to want to relent so what happens next is anyone's guess.
if he attempts to crush them, all he does is kill his country.

he'll be labeled as the north korea of the west by the modern world, which is a death sentence for tourism. sure, he can suppress the opinion for a month, maybe two, but the internet is vast and sooner or later it'll get out.

from there, his only hope is either to infect the rest of the EU with his poison, or to go full hitler, minus the genocide. latter might work if he's smart, but given his actions I highly doubt it.

no matter what, France as we know it is doomed.
 
That’s why I think it is very premature to declare the yellow vests a failure.

I don't think anyone except MSM and Neo-liberal oligarchs are saying this.

It is still a national embarrassment that is ruining Macron’s credibility and legitimacy as France’s leader.

He did not have any for more than 60% of the population at his inauguration. FFS, he didn't even present a programm when he ran for president. Now it's around 80% of the population and steadily growing.
 
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