Legend of Zelda thread - Lorefags GTFO!

People seem pretty divided about botw 2. A little worrying but we'll see. They had 5 years to make this game.
 
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mostly there's ultimately a lot of uncertainty. usually the sequel to a good game is never as good as the original game, but the Zelda developer usually does a good job. i suspect that there's a lot that they are not showing in order to not ruin surprises, but since this is based on the BOTW map and assets they can show us a lot that was in the previous game.

I don't believe it's possible for them to fuck this up. BOTW's development was heavily focused on building the entire world and a brand new game engine. Now that they have that largely nailed down, they can focus on adding the things they wanted to have in BOTW but just didn't have time for. I expect the game engine and graphics to be slightly but noticeable improved, I expect there to be proper dungeons, i expect there to be towns and cities bustling with activity, i expect there will be side stories full of charm and heartbreak. This game will squeeze out every ounce of power the Switch didn't even know it had, and give them an idea of what the next Nintendo console needs to be capable of.
 
I need more towns and npc characters
That and more monster variety than just Bokoblins, Moblins and Lizalfos spammed everywhere (chuchu, keese and the others barely carry as much of a presence when compared to how much those three are spammed) and it feels like those three are the only ones that have any real influence on the overworld. Red lizalfos even take the place of River Zora despite that they could've added them alongside Zoras like in the Oracle games, and the Gerudo Desert only really has the Moldugas as its only unique monsters, not even any of those cool one-eyed scorpion monsters from past games, and it would've been a good chance to use and expand on those mysterious sandmen/geldmen from A Link to the Past and Between Worlds.

Tbf BotW was the first game that excluded a lot of recurring enemies, even the omnipresent deku baba. Even Faron Woods could've used some Deku Scrubs, Poes or Skull Kids. And Hyrule Castle could've done with some darknuts, skulltulas and poes. So far ToK seems to be adding some much needed variety (I hope the majority isn't just construct variants and redeads). Hope they include more beloved enemies, and give some more classic forgotten ones the Lynel treatment.
 
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So far ToK seems to be adding some much needed variety (I hope the majority isn't just construct variants and redeads). Hope they include more beloved enemies, and give some more classic forgotten ones the Lynel treatment.
Going by the trailers, all I see is the Talus with scaffolding attached to it by Bokoblins and another, larger rock monster. Personally, I want to see an new version of the Darknut, since the ones in TP are an glorified game of chicken.
 
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Going by the trailers, all I see is the Talus with scaffolding attached to it by Bokoblins and another, larger rock monster. Personally, I want to see an new version of the Darknut, since the ones in TP are an glorified game of chicken.
do you want them to be like the Darknuts in windwaker, ALBW and Spirit Tracks but with better combat and no super obvious weak spot?
 
People seem pretty divided about botw 2. A little worrying but we'll see. They had 5 years to make this game.
Funnily enough, it reminds me of the pre-botw era. Specially with Horizon coming out right before it. There was a lot of similar discussion bar the "it's just dlc" thing.
 
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usually the sequel to a good game is never as good as the original game
Maybe not as much recently but sequels to good games in general tended to be better. I can't think of many games in the 90's that had worse sequels. Street Fighter, Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Mario, Resident Evil, etc had decent starts but got way better.
 
Going by the trailers, all I see is the Talus with scaffolding attached to it by Bokoblins and another, larger rock monster. Personally, I want to see an new version of the Darknut, since the ones in TP are an glorified game of chicken.
Hope they include more beloved enemies, and give some more classic forgotten ones the Lynel treatment.
There is also a three headed dragon seen on the Lake Hylia bridge in one of the trailers, and the fat bokoblin leader, but that seems to be it. Hopefully there more than that I want to see Darknuts too.
 
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That is astoundingly untrue, especially in Zelda's case. I know nesfags are the boomers of vidya but I'll keep my diagonal slashes and dungeons that don't look like 9,001 lumen crayon scribbles than you very much.
In all fairness, what he said is mostly true for movies and it kind of happens with vidya. Just not with Zelda, for some reason
 
That is astoundingly untrue, especially in Zelda's case. I know nesfags are the boomers of vidya but I'll keep my diagonal slashes and dungeons that don't look like 9,001 lumen crayon scribbles than you very much.
Last of Us comes to mind. Admittedly I'm not coming up with more examples while I'm on the pot
 
In all fairness, what he said is mostly true for movies and it kind of happens with vidya. Just not with Zelda, for some reason
I figure game sequels tend to be better because the engine and many assets are already developed, and they already made one of that game, so they can iron out the kinks and implement more elaborate stuff for the sequel. Movie sequels don't just get to reuse assets and engines, and they're generally not made because there's another story to tell in this universe; they're made to make more cash.
 
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There is also a three headed dragon seen on the Lake Hylia bridge in one of the trailers, and the fat bokoblin leader, but that seems to be it. Hopefully there more than that I want to see Darknuts too.
Yeah. At least the ones in WW were more aggressive
Darknuts are honestly some of the best enemies and minibosses in the series. Having to go another game without them and so many other cool monsters like these would be a travesty.
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Hyrule Castle of all places should've been filled to the brim with these things instead of your standard lanky ghetto Moblins. There's even abandoned suits of black knight armor all over the place ffs. Such a big overworld deserves a bigger variety of monsters and animals for you to hunt. Even the Faron jungle area should've had some unique jungle wild game (the Hebra Mountains get a rhino but not the jungle or savannah-based areas?) or even some baboon or Odolwa-inspired enemies and minibosses. And the Hebra Mountains are even more barren. No settlements, yetis or yook enemies like in Twilight Princess (two yetis in a big mansion with a cool boss and miniboss still counts for something) or Spirit Tracks.

There's so much that TotK could add if they really went all out with new enemies and minibosses that could add so many combat and challenge possibilities to the barren overworld, like enemies that set up cages or magic traps in the wild and ambush you, or other interesting mechanics. I just hope the game isn't just redeads and fat bokoblins alongside 100 bokoblin and moblin variants whose only differences are horn shapes and riding around on green cars and Taluses.
 
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Holy shit I hate discordniggers. The botw multiplayer mod got released, but its only available from a locked discord that requires phone verification (I asked the dev why and he said 'transphobes and racists'. The only other way to download it is from ANOTHER discord for some soy youtuber. I got it from there since it doesnt need phone verification, but guess what... ITS AN EXE DOWNLOADER. Kill yourself you tranny modders. Is it too hard for you retards to run a github page and just provide the actual mod file instead of this horrible blend of discord + random EXE garbage?

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They are straight up saying it will literally be flagged by your antivirus. How incompitent and retarded are these morons? All the exe does is just download from some private version control they have instead of just putting it up on github.

Here is a zip file of the mod so you dont have to go through these hoops. You need to install .NET 6.0 and use the BotW mod loader program, install the BNPs in the BNPs folder and run the server exe. The discordnigger I complained to said they are going to open source it 'later', but based on this they will probably do something retarded like upload source code in zip files to discord.
 

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mostly there's ultimately a lot of uncertainty. usually the sequel to a good game is never as good as the original game, but the Zelda developer usually does a good job. i suspect that there's a lot that they are not showing in order to not ruin surprises, but since this is based on the BOTW map and assets they can show us a lot that was in the previous game.

I don't believe it's possible for them to fuck this up. BOTW's development was heavily focused on building the entire world and a brand new game engine. Now that they have that largely nailed down, they can focus on adding the things they wanted to have in BOTW but just didn't have time for. I expect the game engine and graphics to be slightly but noticeable improved, I expect there to be proper dungeons, i expect there to be towns and cities bustling with activity, i expect there will be side stories full of charm and heartbreak. This game will squeeze out every ounce of power the Switch didn't even know it had, and give them an idea of what the next Nintendo console needs to be capable of.
Don't expect towns and cities but I agree on the rest. I can't imagine the game getting universal acclaim though, unlike the first. The reused world, even with changes and additions, will annoy many people and too many are already sharpening their axes.
 
Don't expect towns and cities but I agree on the rest. I can't imagine the game getting universal acclaim though, unlike the first. The reused world, even with changes and additions, will annoy many people and too many are already sharpening their axes.
Journos will still consoom it for ad money. Autists will still bitch about the lore and compare it to Warriors. Normies will still buy it. Most critics will give it at least an "8."
 
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