Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner Jr. - Autistic Pedophile / Foamer / Shitlord

Do you prefer Shaner to get permabanned?

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    Votes: 63 36.6%
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    Votes: 109 63.4%

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Also, this just in. Len's account of what really happened at the arraignment.

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So Shaner's ball team staged a coup d'etat and overthrew the Pennsylvania justice system. Naturally Shaner is the most reputable source we have at the moment, so I will go ahead and say this really happened.

rip zim, rip puffertons 2015-2015
 
Len has proven to be a liar, fake, fraud, phony jackass. He is an idiot. No intelligence, wisdom or normal thought process.

He is delusional, one-tracked and gullible as hell. My guess is that there is a very good reason why we aren't hearing anything from those who may have been there. Whatever the situation, the people involved have intelligence and know that perhaps its best to lay low.

Len, meanwhile is a foaming, raving, loony man-child who still shits his diapers and spergs out with idiotic lies.

In ways, he is worse than CWC. Chris plays vid games, lego etc., where he can harm no one. Len though has a thing for trains. Big real locomotives.

Chris vandalizes some game things, rants about it on FB and squirts pepper spray at an employee. Len recklessly endangers the safety of a train crew, potentially causing damage to a historic train (while trespassing at the time), harasses innocent people and deludes himself into believing there is a conspiracy matched only by the one that killed JFK!

Chris mangles Amiibos, Len attempts to derial trains.

Ergo, Chris - High Functioning; Len - Low Functioning

Both:

AUTISTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Len has proven to be a liar, fake, fraud, phony jackass. He is an idiot. No intelligence, wisdom or normal thought process.

He is delusional, one-tracked and gullible as hell. My guess is that there is a very good reason why we aren't hearing anything from those who may have been there. Whatever the situation, the people involved have intelligence and know that perhaps its best to lay low.

Len, meanwhile is a foaming, raving, loony man-child who still shits his diapers and spergs out with idiotic lies.

In ways, he is worse than CWC. Chris plays vid games, lego etc., where he can harm no one. Len though has a thing for trains. Big real locomotives.

Chris vandalizes some game things, rants about it on FB and squirts pepper spray at an employee. Len recklessly endangers the safety of a train crew, potentially causing damage to a historic train (while trespassing at the time), harasses innocent people and deludes himself into believing there is a conspiracy matched only by the one that killed JFK!

Chris mangles Amiibos, Len attempts to derial trains.

Ergo, Chris - High Functioning; Len - Low Functioning

Both:

AUTISTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're just realizing this now?
 
Len has proven to be a liar, fake, fraud, phony jackass. He is an idiot. No intelligence, wisdom or normal thought process.

He is delusional, one-tracked and gullible as hell. My guess is that there is a very good reason why we aren't hearing anything from those who may have been there. Whatever the situation, the people involved have intelligence and know that perhaps its best to lay low.

Len, meanwhile is a foaming, raving, loony man-child who still shits his diapers and spergs out with idiotic lies.

In ways, he is worse than CWC. Chris plays vid games, lego etc., where he can harm no one. Len though has a thing for trains. Big real locomotives.

Chris vandalizes some game things, rants about it on FB and squirts pepper spray at an employee. Len recklessly endangers the safety of a train crew, potentially causing damage to a historic train (while trespassing at the time), harasses innocent people and deludes himself into believing there is a conspiracy matched only by the one that killed JFK!

Chris mangles Amiibos, Len attempts to derial trains.

Ergo, Chris - High Functioning; Len - Low Functioning

Both:

AUTISTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it comes down to the fact that Chris being a millennial and being raised by the Internet is the only real difference between himself and Len. They're both incredibly self-indulgent, self-entitled, self-aggrandizing know-it-alls whose reality extends only to the hobbies they drown themselves in.

They're about three clicks away from punching themselves in the head and kicking holes in the wall.
 
I've mentioned in the past my interest in obtaining a copy of transcripts of Lenny's trials, but had no knowledge on how to go about it. I asked Saul about it a while back, but he's been rather busy lately (and I don't blame the guy). After some googling and false leads, I finally found a phone number I can call to request that information.

The office will be closed until Monday, and then I'll ask for a quote. The prelim was around two hours according to the witness account provided by @Kirby, so that one may be a little out of my budget depending on how much the price per page is.

I'm going to need some additional info before I jump headfirst into this:
  • The prelim was on August 10th, starting at 8:15 am, correct?
    [*]This latest hearing was on September 30th, but I lost track of the time it started.
    [*]What are the associated case numbers I'll need to make sure I don't stupidly ask for "the Leonard Shaner stuff"?
Scratch all that, I didn't notice Zim updated the OP to include direct links to the docket sheets
 
I've mentioned in the past my interest in obtaining a copy of transcripts of Lenny's trials, but had no knowledge on how to go about it. I asked Saul about it a while back, but he's been rather busy lately (and I don't blame the guy). After some googling and false leads, I finally found a phone number I can call to request that information.

The office will be closed until Monday, and then I'll ask for a quote. The prelim was around two hours according to the witness account provided by @Kirby, so that one may be a little out of my budget depending on how much the price per page is.

I'm going to need some additional info before I jump headfirst into this:
  • The prelim was on August 10th, starting at 8:15 am, correct?
  • This latest hearing was on September 30th, but I lost track of the time it started.
  • What are the associated case numbers I'll need to make sure I don't stupidly ask for "the Leonard Shaner stuff"?

Dockets are in OP. Probably have the times and case numbers and whatnot.
 
You're just realizing this now?

LOL noooo, of course not. I posted it when I saw some folks were appearing to consider Len's story was true!

Goddamn people, I am Pufferton! Len was pretty easy to figure out!

The office will be closed until Monday, and then I'll ask for a quote. The prelim was around two hours according to the witness account provided by @Kirby, so that one may be a little out of my budget depending on how much the price per page is.

Slight powerlevel but relevant to the quote.

I work in legal industry. In my province you can request the actual audio of the proceedings. I have done it many times. Then we have the option of transcribing it or hiring a transcription company top do it. But it gets pricey to transcribe.

So my man, ask about the audio CD instead and if you can get that. Then we get the advantage of hearing it.

And cost, at least with courts I deal with, is cheap. Transcription, $4 bucks a page. Audio CD $20 bucks.
 
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Slight powerlevel but relevant to the quote.

I work in legal industry. In my province you can request the actual audio of the proceedings. I have done it many times. Then we have the option of transcribing it or hiring a transcription company top do it. But it gets pricey to transcribe.

So my man, ask about the audio CD instead and if you can get that. Then we get the advantage of hearing it.

And cost, at least with courts I deal with, is cheap. Transcription, $4 bucks a page. Audio CD $20 bucks.
Hell, if they offer audio, I'll shoot for that instead. I'd much rather cut and crop relevant audio than sift through hundreds of sheets of paper and have to go through the aggravation of getting my scanner to behave.
 
Hell, if they offer audio, I'll shoot for that instead. I'd much rather cut and crop relevant audio than sift through hundreds of sheets of paper and have to go through the aggravation of getting my scanner to behave.
Audio would be the best way to go. I really want to hear if Hy was as crazy as he sounded in the story that @Kirby shared with us. Sometimes it's really hard to imagine what the madness must have been like.
 
@Wally Balljacker I scoured the County Court site and ran some google searches and found nothing about ordering audio.

I did find this and assume it is who you will be contacting Monday:

http://www.montcopa.org/index.aspx?NID=321

I'd still ask him, although maybe that's how they make their bucks by making you pay for the typing of the proceedings.

Also for the benefit of others, perhaps one of the US legal dudes can confirm that this is the waiver Len would have filed:

http://www.montcopa.org/DocumentCenter/View/542

In essence waiving the Rule which would allow his case to be dismissed if no trial in allotted time pursuant to Rule 600. Correct?
 
Aren't there restrictions on what you can do with a transcript? As in, not post it to a forum?

Potentially yes. Again, I am in Canada so things are vastly different up here. Totally different laws and I could not venture in to saying anything on that subject. @AnOminous or Saul are the guys for that.

For example, we have a case here, we lose at trial division and file appeal to Court of Appeal. Person filing appeal must obtain audio of lower court hearing, have it transcribed and certified and include in an Appeal Book which is then filed with the Appeal Court. As it is a matter of public record, i.e. anyone can search the file at the court house and view it, then it can be posted on websites or used in media etc. Only unless there is a confidentiality or sealing order in place then it would not be allowed to be available to the public.

Anyway, early days to talk about it, have to see what @Wally Balljacker learns Monday. I did come across some other things I am going to read on that may also assist. I did see though a directive that the public can only be charged .25 cents a page, so that is good!
 
Hell, if they offer audio, I'll shoot for that instead. I'd much rather cut and crop relevant audio than sift through hundreds of sheets of paper and have to go through the aggravation of getting my scanner to behave.

Montgomery County Court Reporters
W. Byron Battle, RPR
Chief Court Reporter
Montgomery County Courthouse
P.O. Box 311
Norristown, PA 19404-0311

For transcript requests, scheduling, and further information please contact:
Ph: 610-278-3233

A lot of these older places might not be able to handle forms over the internet so you might need to get a fax machine, or use one of the online faxing services in order to send any needed forms. All I would do is just ask for a transcript form

Aren't there restrictions on what you can do with a transcript? As in, not post it to a forum?

From my understanding it's up to Shaner's attorney to specifically request that sensitive information in the transcript be left out. Since that likely didn't happen there is no way that releasing transcript information would be doing anything illegal, and also I think it's the responsibility of the transcriber to keep sensitive information out of the transcript anyway. However, as long as obviously sensitive stuff like address and social security numbers aren't being released then it's basically documentation that is freely accessible to the public that anyone has a right to see. It's called a Public Record for a reason.
 
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Aren't there restrictions on what you can do with a transcript? As in, not post it to a forum?
I tried doing some searching on this and I don't think the answer is so clear cut. What I kept finding was that reporter transcripts aren't subjected to copyright. I also couldn't find anything that said outright that you can or cannot post so and so from a transcript online.
 
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