Linus Gabriel Sebastian & Linus Media Group / Linus Tech Tips - Narcissistic corporate shill YouTuber driving his media empire into the ground. KILL COUNT: 2

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Wait, does this mean debian is literally pulling your hand away from the mouse to prevent a linus moment? Or is this a poorly thought out joke?
I thought deleting the boot loader was a linux "feature" and they weren't going to nanny you through it.
It needs to be done manually with an additional switch instead of being easily done by typing a bit of text. It's like what happens when you rm -rf /, it's just a different way of presenting the problem to the user. This will probably not stop the most extreme of Linus moments, but it might help.
 
Wait, does this mean debian is literally pulling your hand away from the mouse to prevent a linus moment? Or is this a poorly thought out joke?
I thought deleting the boot loader was a linux "feature" and they weren't going to nanny you through it.
Yes they took away the "do as I say" prompt because Linus decided to type that in without understanding the ramifications. Now you have to provide the argument --allow-remove-essential to remove packages marked essential.

He didn't delete the bootloader, he just completely uninstalled the desktop environment.
 
Noticed this while updating a Debian box to bookworm
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apt (2.3.12) unstable; urgency=medium

  The solver will no longer try to remove Essential or Protected packages,
  any dependency problem that would need such a solution will have to be
  resolved manually.

  The "Yes, do as I say" prompt for removing essential packages has been
  replaced by an error message. The appropriate command-line option needs
  to be used instead.

  Thank you to Linus Tech Tips and System76 for bringing this issue
  to our attention.

 -- Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org>  Wed, 17 Nov 2021 18:26:40 +0100
Well this is dumb I didn't notice that, but is any experienced Debian user is ever going to have this problem accidentally when the solver triggers, this could be some sort of safeguard for beginners or preventing fuck ups. I prefer the classic way anyways of the "Yes, do as I say" to prevent retards from fucking up.
 
Holy fucking shit, distros should absolutely not be catering to "celebrity" users. Hell a "Hello Linus Sebastian, please stop using our distro" letter would have had more integrity.

Linus being locked out of his computer is a good thing!
but is any experienced Debian user is ever going to have this problem accidentally
Linux evangelists. Every single fucking time.

You know, if you weren't so far up your asses all the time about how great and amazing Linux is and actually put in effort to make it as hassle free for the biggest normies that aren't on the autism spectrum as Windows is, maybe the fact that you need to put in safeguards from inexperienced users from wiping everything wouldn't be an issue.

Oh who am I kidding, you will never learn this lesson and you'll keep running in this circle for all eternity.

This isn't Linux devs catering to e-celebs, this is Linux devs getting hit with the reality that not every single user of Linux is an autist that's already an expert in how it works, and if they ever want to have a chance of outbeating Windows they actually need to start making it idiot-proof.
 
This isn't Linux devs catering to e-celebs, this is Linux devs getting hit with the reality that not every single user of Linux is an autist that's already an expert in how it works, and if they ever want to have a chance of outbeating Windows they actually need to start making it idiot-proof.
Not even that, just the recognition that this probably isn't a great safety measure. If someones trying to remove something relatively important, that they don't understand the importance of, asking them to confirm it generically doesn't actually make it any safer - its like the useless windows User Account Control prompt when you're already logged in as a system admin. Turning it into an explicit, bespoke command line argument means you need awareness of the command line argument and the situations in which it'd actually work, making it more likely you actually understand what you're doing.

If they'd removed the ability to nuke it entirely, that'd be stupid, but honestly this solution ain't worth any drama.
 
Slav Power, I mean the exact opposite. If people want an oopsie doodle proof distro, that's fine, but Debian has been around for a long time, and Linus fucking schtick of breaking things on camera for "content" should not lead to policy changes.

I was actually wondering why decapitation enthusiast marked me crazy, thanks for actually explaining what you found objectionable.

If you want to see what I am talking about, look at the game gear modding episode linus did. He's a fucking idiot who shouldn't be allowed near children's toys that look like tools, let alone a Dremel or soldering iron.

Additionally, I don't find Linux remotely hassle free. It's a pain in the fucking balls and there are absolutely sandcastle kingdoms in that fucking space.

Apparently Qualcomm is more open source friendly than cisco, but that's like saying a Labrador is friendlier than a Shitbull.

Kuritan, I can also see your argument. Making it an actual command means you can't just [YES] [YES] [Y] your way through things, and have to actually think.
 
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distros should absolutely not be catering to "celebrity" users. Hell a "Hello Linus Sebastian, please stop using our distro" letter would have had more integrity.
That seems hyperbolic if anyone notices it and thinks "who the fuck is this Linus Sebastian guy and why the fuck he shouldn't be allowed to use this?" bringing more attention to the situation out of curiosity.
Linus being locked out of his computer is a good thing!
Another case of SystemD being a dick as usual.
this is Linux devs getting hit with the reality that not every single user of Linux is an autist that's already an expert in how it works, and if they ever want to have a chance of outbeating Windows they actually need to start making it idiot-proof.
I had a client 2 years ago, where I installed MX Linux for a senior and surprisingly I didn't have a phone call for help after these years post-installation, so that seems idiot-proof enough.
Back then perhaps a decade ago when Linux devs where struggling with that wall of reality competing with Windows, where obviously Linux wasn't friendly to newcomers at the time, but nowadays it has improved marginally without doing too much autism CLI stuff. Best to stay away from the bleeding-edge koolaid like Arch for normies. I don't mind safeguards prompts, cuz sometimes dealing with the amazing Linux is like a life experience of dealing with little and big mistakes and learning overtime.
 
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If someones trying to remove something relatively important, that they don't understand the importance of, asking them to confirm it generically doesn't actually make it any safer
That's not a generic prompt from apt though. Normally apt will just prompt y/n. Personally I have never seen a prompt from apt worded so scarily and there's no chance in hell I'd say yes to it without being absolutely sure. Linus just rolling with it is nuts, he must really put a lot of faith in advice from random Reddit posts.
maybe the fact that you need to put in safeguards from inexperienced users from wiping everything wouldn't be an issue.
One major issue is every GUI package manager just being a thin wrapper over tools like apt. It works ok when the installation is successful but their error handling just dumps incomprehensible shit into a modal then challenges the user to figure it out.

The people who can figure out what the errors mean aren't even using these tools anyway. The maintainers need to sit down and figure out how to handle errors without causing users to Google random shit and end up accidentally uninstalling their DE.
 
I installed MX Linux for a senior
Ah yes, because everyone's OS use case ends on using Firefox and browsing the web. But try going anywhere outside of that narrow use case and you'll be running into problems.

However from my experiences with Linux, doing anything besides that would run me into issues that only exist under Linux, and I would always fall back to Windows. Because if I have to spend months to re-learn absolutely everything just to detach myself from Microsoft's hegemony, then I'm not going to.

If it can't work as a drop-in replacement that will support my software suite and my workflow, then I just won't switch. And it's not that I don't want to or that I can't relearn everything, it's that if Linux is so great and ideal, I shouldn't have to, but yet I do.

Linux's biggest issue is it's community. It's this mentality that prevails throughout the userbase and developers that stops Linux from overthrowing Windows. Everyone got used to this chaos and they fail to see that it's the reason why it remains a niche, and they refuse to adapt the things that Windows does right, which would then fulfill their dream of total GNU dominance.

One major issue is every GUI package manager just being a thin wrapper over tools like apt
To be more precise: all Linux GUI elements are a CLI wrapper. Modern Linux is like Windows 95/98/Me, it's a GUI wrapper running on top of a CLI OS. And that led to massive issues for Microsoft, which led them to drop the 9x lineage for consumers and instead adapt their enterprise solution to it, which was Windows NT, which was developed from the ground up to be a GUI OS.

Linux is nothing more than this thinly veined facade of what in reality is a CLI OS. That's why desktop Linux is so reliant on the terminal, because under the hood it is a terminal OS. The only thing that Linux devs can do by this point is to try their best that this terminal OS nature is as neatly hidden away through a coherent and standardized GUI as possible. But not like that's ever gonna happen if they already have two competing window rendering standards.
 
That's not a generic prompt from apt though. Normally apt will just prompt y/n. Personally I have never seen a prompt from apt worded so scarily and there's no chance in hell I'd say yes to it without being absolutely sure. Linus just rolling with it is nuts, he must really put a lot of faith in advice from random Reddit posts.
This is the thing that gets me. When Linus gets a prompt from the system that asks, "Are you REALLY REALLY sure you know what you're doing?" he completely ignores the whole thing despite the fact he obviously has no fucking clue what he is doing. :story: All it would've taken was for him to read the text and think about it for a split second. But I guess reading is for plebs lol.

Now obviously the main point of failure was with the distro maintainers who let this gigantic dependency fuckup happen, but for someone who loves to present himself as an experienced tech guru, what Linus did should completely shatter that image in the eyes of anyone who's at least slightly less retarded.
 
If it can't work as a drop-in replacement that will support my software suite and my workflow, then I just won't switch. And it's not that I don't want to or that I can't relearn everything, it's that if Linux is so great and ideal, I shouldn't have to, but yet I do.
I agree that there is an issue with software accessibly and there should be more software suiting those needs, but it's better to explain towards those programmers devs and force them to port their software towards Linux, heck even some propitiatory software ported as AppImages justifying some sort of a solution.
Windows NT, which was developed from the ground up to be a GUI OS
My nigga, NT is a hybrid kernel almost like Gnu-Herd(a microkernel), which allows layering user-mode programs as it's own sandbox of libraries and dependencies without interfering with system libraries and stuff. If you think about it, all GUI & CLI elements regardless of OS structure are command cruncher overlays.
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everyone's OS use case ends on using Firefox and browsing the web.

Modern Linux is like Windows 95/98/Me,

Ironically, both were true in my first use case with linux.

I had taken the idiot level intro to computers class and knew how to install ubuntu.
My Grandpa's Windows Me Compaq had taken a shit, and the hard drive was borked. No problem, windows key on the back, restore disc was provided with the machine.
Only no, in this case, a generic Windows Me install disc would not do, and the compaq restore disc relied on a partition on said fucked hard drive.

So, I dropped ubuntu on the thing while Grandpa harassed Compaq for a restore disc that fucking worked.

He was able to do his email and web browsing shit on ubuntu, but the accounting software he used was fully incompatible with commie OS.

Thankfully, he was senior enough he could get other people to do the accounting software shit and answer questions through email. He thought Ubuntu was "a little fruity" and was happy when Compaq shipped him a retail copy of Windows ME with a retail key. I installed that shit on a hard drive he bought at CompUSA and he was back to the races.

I honestly do not like linux.
 
To be more precise: all Linux GUI elements are a CLI wrapper. Modern Linux is like Windows 95/98/Me, it's a GUI wrapper running on top of a CLI OS. And that led to massive issues for Microsoft, which led them to drop the 9x lineage for consumers and instead adapt their enterprise solution to it, which was Windows NT, which was developed from the ground up to be a GUI OS.
I didn't intend for my laughing at a small change made in apt because of someone being dumb to turn into an autistic argument over the reasons why Linux sucks, but here we are.

I fundamentally disagree with your assertion that all Linux GUIs wrap CLIs, that Linux is even comparable to Windows 9x, or the big problem with 9x was that it was a GUI slapped ontop of MS-DOS. NT isn't better because stinky 9x booted to C:\>, it's because Microsoft hired an absolute genius from DEC to build the next big thing after deciding they weren't going to wait forever for OS/2 to mature.

GUI package managers wrapping CLI tools makes sense but the issue is it's so thin. The pretense of user friendliness falls apart when the only way you handle an error is to just throw up a wall of text with useless technical jargon.
 
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The Wish.com video is still the most popular video by far on the LTT channel.
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In an attempt to make lightning strike twice, the LTT team have tried multiple times to reproduce this success.
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They're good attempts but nowhere near the success of the original. You can tell times are desperate when yet another one appears and this time it has tranny gloves!
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Not going to lie, the thumbnail did suck me in. In this video they're building an entire "gaming setup" where the gamer furniture and peripherals are all sourced from Wish.com. I don't know how Linus can pretend to give a fuck about the environment when he showcases this RGB e-waste to harvest views.

The video is near unwatchable once you realize that Linus' co-presenter is some sort of hunchback troglodyte. Seriously, watch the video and you'll see there's not a single frame where his back is straight and he actually does appear to have a hunchback.
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Maybe it's a Keffals hump in progress and he's about to troon out? There's insufferable zoomer humor sprinkled throughout, like this bit where he randomly eats some shit and they add in a cheesy crunch sound effect presumably to send misophonia sufferers into fits of autistic rage.
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Enter the troon gloves! They're not marketed as tranny adjacent but they really do look like programmer socks for your hands. They're supposed to be hand warmers but the heating element is just jammed inside the gloves and quickly falls out.
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This is by far the grossest part of the video. They bought stupid looking "gamer" t-shirts and didn't account for one of the presenters being a fat hunchback. It looks to be about 5 sizes too small but the hunchback just rolls with it and decides to embarrass himself in front of millions of people.
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Wait, does this mean debian is literally pulling your hand away from the mouse to prevent a linus moment? Or is this a poorly thought out joke?
I thought deleting the boot loader was a linux "feature" and they weren't going to nanny you through it.
I find to be a good thing and it's not the first time that linux did something like that, like when `sudo rm -rf /` was a joke, they added a security measure where it doesn't let you remove core parts of the system without passing --no-preserve-root after.

The video is near unwatchable once you realize that Linus' co-presenter is some sort of hunchback troglodyte. Seriously, watch the video and you'll see there's not a single frame where his back is straight and he actually does appear to have a hunchback.
I find funny how they replaced Fathony for this guy who's 10x worse after he began to transition
 
How do they all get so fat? Do they all just rely on fastfood once becoming linus' bitch? I swear they all just instagain 30-40 lbs
Seems like he mostly hires fresh college grads - probably cuz of salary expectations. A lotta technology oriented people get into their first 'real' job where they're actually getting paid well, but don't leave the poor college student mindset where fast food is a luxury. So they celebrate their newfound relative wealth with the luxury they know, a stack of cheeseburgers. I'm sure the antimasculine atmosphere of LTT doesn't help encourage people to change that any, but its not really LTT's fault. Shit happens everywhere.
 
I don't disagree that if Linux users want a little more validity outside of Network Operations, Servers, and the like; there should be some sort of retard proof distribution that comes with all the bells and whistles that make it as easy as Windows. That being said; if someone labels themself with the "tech tips" moniker and he fucking destroys something, you should send a letter laughing at him, not catering to him. In the way that many Linux/OpenSQL do, because while I fucking hate everything about them when you ask for help, I'd be lying if I didn't admit to enjoying watching them rip into others.

As for this new guy... ... ... did Linus just hire one of his brothers? Put them side by side, and it wouldn't be a hard sell to convince me they're closely related.
 
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