Business Logitech has an idea for a “forever mouse” that requires a subscription - Exec says mouse that requires a regular fee for software updates is possible.

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Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber recently discussed the possibility of one day selling a mouse that customers can use "forever." The executive said such a mouse isn't "necessarily super far away" and will rely on software updates, likely delivered through a subscription model.

Speaking on a July 29 episode of The Verge's Decoder podcast, Faber, who Logitech appointed as CEO in October, said that members of a "Logitech innovation center" showed her "a forever mouse" and compared it to a nice but not "super expensive" watch. She said:
... I’m not planning to throw that watch away ever. So why would I be throwing my mouse or my keyboard away if it’s a fantastic-quality, well-designed, software-enabled mouse? The forever mouse is one of the things that we’d like to get to.

The concept mouse that Faber examined was "a little heavier" than the typical mouse. But what drives its longevity potential for Logitech is the idea of constantly updated software and services.

To be clear, Logitech hasn't announced concrete plans to release such a product. But Faber seemed optimistic about the idea of a mouse that people never need to replace. The challenge, she admitted, is finding a business model that supports that idea without requiring an exorbitant hardware price. "Our stuff will have to change, but does the hardware have to change?" she asked. "I’m not so sure. We’ll have to obviously fix it and figure out what that business model is. We’re not at the forever mouse today, but I’m intrigued by the thought."

The price of a “forever mouse”​

Speaking with Faber, Decoder host and Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel suggested that a "forever mouse" could cost $200. While that would be expensive compared to the typical mouse, such a product wouldn't be the first software-heavy, three-figure-price computer mouse. Still, a price tag of around $200 would limit the audience to professionals or enthusiasts.

Faber also said the average price of a mouse or keyboard is $26, though she didn't cite her source. Logitech is seeking growth by appealing to the many people who don't own both a mouse and keyboard and by selling more expensive devices. A "forever mouse" could fall under the latter. Alternatively, the price of the mouse's hardware could be subsidized by subscription payments.

In any case, pushing out software updates would require Logitech to convince its customers to use an app to control their mouse. Such software can offer a lot of programmability and macro support, but the need to constantly run peripheral software could be a nuisance that eats up computer resources. Earlier this year, users complained when Logitech added a ChatGPT launcher to its peripherals.

Mouse subscription​

Subscription models have been gaining popularity among business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-consumer (B2C) tech companies because they offer a more reliable, recurring revenue source than hardware sales. When Patel asked Faber if she could "envision a subscription mouse," she responded, "possibly."

Faber said subscription software updates would mean that people wouldn't need to worry about their mouse. The business model is similar to what Logitech already does with video conferencing services (Logitech's B2B business includes Logitech Select, a subscription service offering things like apps, 24/7 support, and advanced RMA).

Having to pay a regular fee for full use of a peripheral could deter customers, though. HP is trying a similar idea with rentable printers that require a monthly fee. The printers differ from the idea of the forever mouse in that the HP hardware belongs to HP, not the user. However, concerns around tracking and the addition of ongoing expenses are similar.

What about hardware durability?​

Logitech's CEO didn't discuss what durability features a long-lasting mouse might incorporate. But enabling easier self-repairs and upgrades would be a different approach to a longer-lasting computer mouse that could more directly appeal to users.

Logitech already sells parts for self-repairs of some of its mice and other gadgets through iFixit. This shop could be expanded to feature more parts, offer more guides, and support more products.

A "forever mouse" would also benefit from a design with self-repairability in mind. Features like hot-swappability for mouse button switches for upgrades/repairs; easily replaceable shells, wheels, and feet; detachable cables; and customization options—all accompanied by readily available parts and guides—could go a long way toward making a mouse that fits users' long-term needs.

During the interview, Faber also discussed Logitech's goals of doubling its business and cutting its carbon footprint by 50 percent by 2031.

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people mad that businesses try to make more money lol
Nothing wrong with making money. The issue is that they're also:
  1. creating a problem to solve where there is none,
  2. proposing a retarded "solution" that solves nothing even when assuming this fictitious problem is real,
  3. letting a tech-illiterate diversity hire fuck shit up,
  4. blatantly lying to your face about all of this.
Go ahead and buy one, Logitech deserves your money.
 
ARE YOU AN OFFICE WORKER?!
DO YOU WANT TO DOUBLE, TRIPPLE QUADRUPLE YOUR PRODUCTIVITY?!
FOR JUST $4.99/MONTH* YOU CAN UNLOCK SUPER-GOLD TIER ON YOUR MOUSE(+) AND ENABLE THE RIGHT-CLICK BUTTON
DON'T DELAY ORDER TODAY
BUT WAIT!!! THERE'S MORE!!
ORDER NOW AND RECEIVE A FREE** UPGRADE OF YOUR DPI FROM 10 TO 100!!! THAT'S OVER 10 TIMES THE DPI!!! WOoOoOoOW!!!
DONT DELAY, ORDER TODAY!!!

*$4.99 for the first month, $14.99 for every month there after.
** Upgrade only available while you pay for your subscription
+Using your mouse for offensive hate speech related activity or to connect to nigger-hating anti-semite forums will result in your subscription being revoked, the police informed and drag queens sent to bum you kids.
Unironically it's probably made primarily to scam hitech companies who'd waste thousands on shitty subscriber mouses, especially if it will track down their employees.
 
I have replaced zero mice because they stopped working.

The only ones I’ve replaced are because I’ve lost them or they became too nasty to see.

The only way a subscription could even possibly work is some sort of “bring it back anytime and we give you a new one” but the fuckers keep changing the models every five seconds so that won’t work either.
 
Unironically it's probably made primarily to scam hitech companies who'd waste thousands on shitty subscriber mouses, especially if it will track down their employees.
I can see it being marketed as a 'privacy protecting work from home tracking system'.
 
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*We pinky-promise we won't spy on you and sell your data,
 
Pile of shit, the metal scroll wheel somehow rusted after a year.

Edit: Looks like I wasn't the only ones, looked up the prices now out of curiosity and discovered they redesigned the mouse and added a rubber coating over the metal. Thats actually a more expensive one, the cheaper one is still metal and terrible.

Yes, the plating on the scroll wheel is weak, its flaking off the first one, and also wearing off my "hero" version in my hand.
Mouse functions fine, save for it needing a cleaning due to garbage build up in the scroll wheel itself.
 
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Just get an Evoluent verticalmouse. The one on my desk has been going for years and my wrist doesn't hurt after a full day of work/gaming.
 
Corpo decisions like these are exactly why piracy is a necessary evil as well as open source anything. Remember, if they had their way, you'd have ads in your dreams.

How many steps away are we from one of those movies where your organs run on a subscription service that's always ticking down to zero?
As soon as hot swapping organs are a thing as well as genetic modifying yourself to be whatever creature you want.

Once that happens, reality will resemble Cruelty Squad. And hopefully, Brigador.
 
Now I'm still using a Chinky "gaming" mouse that I bought in a fire sale before covid for $3. I only bought two of these and I wish I had got more.
yeah my mouse plan for the past decade plus is "get a mess of one to two dollar mice on ebay" and then as they start to die replace them
it's worked fine, probably up to _maybe_ twenty bucks outlay
 
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