Business Logitech has an idea for a “forever mouse” that requires a subscription - Exec says mouse that requires a regular fee for software updates is possible.

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Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber recently discussed the possibility of one day selling a mouse that customers can use "forever." The executive said such a mouse isn't "necessarily super far away" and will rely on software updates, likely delivered through a subscription model.

Speaking on a July 29 episode of The Verge's Decoder podcast, Faber, who Logitech appointed as CEO in October, said that members of a "Logitech innovation center" showed her "a forever mouse" and compared it to a nice but not "super expensive" watch. She said:
... I’m not planning to throw that watch away ever. So why would I be throwing my mouse or my keyboard away if it’s a fantastic-quality, well-designed, software-enabled mouse? The forever mouse is one of the things that we’d like to get to.

The concept mouse that Faber examined was "a little heavier" than the typical mouse. But what drives its longevity potential for Logitech is the idea of constantly updated software and services.

To be clear, Logitech hasn't announced concrete plans to release such a product. But Faber seemed optimistic about the idea of a mouse that people never need to replace. The challenge, she admitted, is finding a business model that supports that idea without requiring an exorbitant hardware price. "Our stuff will have to change, but does the hardware have to change?" she asked. "I’m not so sure. We’ll have to obviously fix it and figure out what that business model is. We’re not at the forever mouse today, but I’m intrigued by the thought."

The price of a “forever mouse”​

Speaking with Faber, Decoder host and Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel suggested that a "forever mouse" could cost $200. While that would be expensive compared to the typical mouse, such a product wouldn't be the first software-heavy, three-figure-price computer mouse. Still, a price tag of around $200 would limit the audience to professionals or enthusiasts.

Faber also said the average price of a mouse or keyboard is $26, though she didn't cite her source. Logitech is seeking growth by appealing to the many people who don't own both a mouse and keyboard and by selling more expensive devices. A "forever mouse" could fall under the latter. Alternatively, the price of the mouse's hardware could be subsidized by subscription payments.

In any case, pushing out software updates would require Logitech to convince its customers to use an app to control their mouse. Such software can offer a lot of programmability and macro support, but the need to constantly run peripheral software could be a nuisance that eats up computer resources. Earlier this year, users complained when Logitech added a ChatGPT launcher to its peripherals.

Mouse subscription​

Subscription models have been gaining popularity among business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-consumer (B2C) tech companies because they offer a more reliable, recurring revenue source than hardware sales. When Patel asked Faber if she could "envision a subscription mouse," she responded, "possibly."

Faber said subscription software updates would mean that people wouldn't need to worry about their mouse. The business model is similar to what Logitech already does with video conferencing services (Logitech's B2B business includes Logitech Select, a subscription service offering things like apps, 24/7 support, and advanced RMA).

Having to pay a regular fee for full use of a peripheral could deter customers, though. HP is trying a similar idea with rentable printers that require a monthly fee. The printers differ from the idea of the forever mouse in that the HP hardware belongs to HP, not the user. However, concerns around tracking and the addition of ongoing expenses are similar.

What about hardware durability?​

Logitech's CEO didn't discuss what durability features a long-lasting mouse might incorporate. But enabling easier self-repairs and upgrades would be a different approach to a longer-lasting computer mouse that could more directly appeal to users.

Logitech already sells parts for self-repairs of some of its mice and other gadgets through iFixit. This shop could be expanded to feature more parts, offer more guides, and support more products.

A "forever mouse" would also benefit from a design with self-repairability in mind. Features like hot-swappability for mouse button switches for upgrades/repairs; easily replaceable shells, wheels, and feet; detachable cables; and customization options—all accompanied by readily available parts and guides—could go a long way toward making a mouse that fits users' long-term needs.

During the interview, Faber also discussed Logitech's goals of doubling its business and cutting its carbon footprint by 50 percent by 2031.

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The second they release this I have purchased my last Logitech product(and it will not be this mouse) and I have been using Logitech input devices for thirty years.
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Last month, Unilever was elected #1 in the World Benchmarking Alliance’s rating of 350 Food and Agriculture brands for responsible/sustainable business.
Would anyone be surprised to learn that the World Benchmarking Alliance is a massive DEI and Climate grift?

The World Benchmarking Alliance (WBA) was launched in 2018 because we believed that there needs to be real change in the way that business impact is measured to boost motivation and stimulate action for a sustainable future for everyone.​

WBA identified seven transformations that need to take place to put society and the worldwide economy on a more sustainable path to achieve the SDGs. To turn these transformations into action, WBA develops in close collaboration with the Alliance a series of benchmarks assessing 2,000 of the world’s most influential companies, ranking and measuring them on their contributions to the SDGs.​

So it was ranked #1 by nothing. I am totally shocked.
 
She has no technology background
"In that time, she drove growth and significant transformation across multi-billion dollar businesses at three of the world’s leading product companies: Unilever, Ahold Delhaize and Procter & Gamble"
Would anyone be surprised to learn that the World Benchmarking Alliance is a massive DEI and Climate grift?
Unilever and P&G are the final #girlbosses of megacorps that swallowed up enough unrelated businesses to justify massive bureaucracies where you can stuff ideologically-aligned but otherwise useless people to play at "transformation", "sustainability", "reimagining" and whatever else HR is into, thousands of miles from where the actual work is done.

In business schools, girls bored with their fake marketing jobs who don't want banking/consulting hours go into Consumer Packaged Goods, ie everything Unilever or P&G sell at grocery/drug stores. But not to design new razors or make a more efficient pretzel machine or anything tangible, it's all powerpoint "initiatives", micromanaging customer "engagement", and inventing metrics to show progress on WEF goals.

"This quarter we increased our makeup brand's awareness among the Pakistani troon community!" (who still threw all the sustainable packaging in the nearest river).
 
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I think I've worn out maybe one mouse ever, and all the other times it was just "wanted a new mouse".

RIP Intellimouse Explorer 1.0.
 
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Nothing wrong with making money. The issue is that they're also:
  1. creating a problem to solve where there is none,
  2. proposing a retarded "solution" that solves nothing even when assuming this fictitious problem is real,
  3. letting a tech-illiterate diversity hire fuck shit up,
  4. blatantly lying to your face about all of this.
Go ahead and buy one, Logitech deserves your money.

I'd be happy to sell you a subscription to my complaints resolution center.
 
If Logitech cared about going green, then make a wired trackball again. The old wired trackballs are going for hundreds of dollars on Ebay. The Logitech trackballs are God tier, but static electricity eventually kills them

There is something about Logitech wireless products that if you put an alkaline battery in it, it is virtually guaranteed to leak and ruin it. Having to use a wireless product on a desktop pc on a actual desk is incredibly stupid.
 
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This is the gayest thing i've ever read.

Make a mouse that you can buy and then slot in replacement shit like microswitches when they break, make the cables swappable, replacement panels and wheels, etc.

Voila you've made a mouse you can theoretically use "forever".

But this doesn't give you constant payments of $15.99 every month so it's not viable as a business model.
 
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I'm so fucking tired of tech companies and their bullshit and inability to produce anything with lasting power or quality, now they want to charge you rent for peripheries.
I refuse to go to the subscription model for stuff like software and peripherals just on principle. I just want to give some merchant my money once and call it a day, not have to set up auto bill pay just so I can double click an icon to run a program I'm also auto bill paying.
 
I wonder at what point will these corpo drones will just say "why should we make a product? Let's just have the people pay us a monthly fee just because"

I mean, it's a fucking mouse. My Logitech trackball lasted 25+ years and it still works to this day but I cannot find an adapter to connect it with. Now they want to make a shitty mouse that I get the privilege of paying monthly just to use?

Fuck that noise.

Lets face facts. It's no longer a good idea to make a solid high quality product that lasts a long time. No it's best to make a cheap ass piece of shit that breaks every month or so and needs to be repurchased. Then toss on a monthly user fee for something like heated seats or key fob use as it's far more money in the corpo pockets and fuck the consumer. It's their duty to feed the economy after after.

So much of our society is getting fucked over in the outright pursuit of more and more money for the already ultra wealthy.

When the next revolution comes and you rich bitches are wondering what happened as your walked towards the guillotine remember shit like this. You may indeed have the governmental power, the cultural institutions and the banking system but we have numbers. There are a million of us normal people to each of you ultra wealthy types so eventually you will push to far and history will repeat.
 
Subscription models have been gaining popularity among business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-consumer (B2C) tech companies because they offer a more reliable, recurring revenue source than hardware sales.
That is one very effective way to loose your customer base. If you become a rent seeking kike, you'll be treated as such by most people.
 
I have had mine for 10 years now, and it still works great.
 
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