Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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In risk of him finding this post, which maybe he will in the future, I had a close friend troon out about 3 or 4 years ago. He was a good online friend of mine, someone I made friends with in an oldfag's PC game called Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst. It was a badly supported PC port of a Dreamcast game, but it was still pretty fun to play.

I randomly made friends with him in a run, learned he has my sense of humor and we exchanged Guild Cards (more or less friend requests). On occasion whenever I did public runs I'd join in and play alongside him. Solid player, knew what he had to do.

So the years move on to subsequent games - one is Phantasy Star Universe. I still kept relative close tabs with him, I join his games on occasion, and we're shitposting buddies on IRC. This is around 2008-2012.

He eventually gets banned from the game because he was using CE to hack some currency for himself. That killed any motivation for him to play again, so he takes a long hiatus until the Japanese version of Phantasy Star Online 2 comes out.

Mind you, during all this he is a massive fucking weeb, and he also indicated when he played other MMOs he would ERP to get money from men so he could get ahead in games. I should've seen this is as an obvious warning sign, but this was a LONG time ago, during the PS2 Final Fantasy 11 days, so I thought he was just doing that to get extra money/resources. It was weird, but I shrugged it off.

PSO2 comes out - practically everyone plays a female, me because I like hot 2D-ish anime women, and I thought he was the same, but this was when he started joking about always wanting to be "the little gurl". Uh oh. Same as before, on occasion I join him, shitpost with him, the usual. Eventually the West gets IP banned from PSO2 because a localized (Westernized slop) version ends up coming to Windows/XCrate. I learned this version had Male/Female changed to Type 1/2 (fuck) and they made it so you can't make characters shorter than 140 cm, because lolicons or something idk

I lose contact with him for a few years, then Discord comes out. He was still in my Steam friends list so I ask him where the fuck he is.

Come to learn he's gotten all in Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn. He has his own static group. I gave up on Final Fantasy XIV when 1.0 came out - back then the people were normal (2010ish), but I learned XIV ARR has been INVADED by faeries, troons, retards, and feminists. He now has a fairly static group of players that he knows through different guilds/parties or whatever, but I get invited there. I don't know ANYONE in that Discord except for him and an old Britbong dude from long time ago.

So for the past few years I was shitposting with him and bitching about woke shit, but I noticed he was VERY anti-Trump. He was a wagey that worked at Best Buy in his 20s and eventually got to being a District Manager. He eventually quit because they weren't promoting him and he got into some Audio/Visual setup company. His company sets up jumbo trons that involve 9001 TVs being connected together and whatnot. So he has to learn how to do all this shit, and one of it was... learning to program so he can write stuff that controls these monitors/TVs/theaters.

About 7 or 8 years ago, he made online friends with a woman from Chile. She was a far left feminist but she generally kept her views to herself. She bitched about DeSantis' anti-woke policies but somehow during Biden's years, got a green card and moved in with my friend - yes he's from Florida.

I thought, cool, my friend has someone who loves him and can take care of him, good for him.

Two months ago we were having a discussion about something, I don't remember what, but somehow it got to about identity, and he started going "I identify as a girl and my pronouns are she/her". I thought he was just joking around with me, so I said, haha, that's funny - wait, you're kidding right? And he repeated to me "No, I've been transitioning since 3 years ago, I've been getting HRT injections and I identify as a lesbian woman. (name of his gf) is a bisexual woman now."

I went silent. I learned he changed his original name from what it was to a typical troon name (not gonna list that name either). I've been calling him by his regular name for the past 3 or 4 years and he responded to me, and I did that because it was my way of saying "Hey man, we're longtime buds so it's cool to call you that". I had no idea he trooned out because his behavior didn't change. He still talks like a man, but now he brags about these injections he's getting and how it's covered by federal financial aid or some dumb shit (thank God Trump is removing that).

Now mind you, I'm in a server full of leftists. They all hate Trump, they agree wokeness is an issue but they don't really think it's a big deal and it's something you "grow out of". I'm the ONLY pro right wing populist that is active on the server. So when he told me he's sticking that poison in his body to 41% himself I didn't reply with anything. I couldn't - if I told him what I thought (that he's an AGP and that bitch he's with brainwashed him into thinking this is fine) it would be a great way to lose my friendship with him, but much like how Elon said he lost his son when his son trooned out, it felt like learning the friend who I knew as (his old name) died.

And of course, guess what also adds to the formula and warning signs he would troon out? He has a nonexistent abusive father who ditched his mother when he and his siblings were born. The mother was also a drug addict and he basically was raised under his grandma. Sound familiar? No, he's not black.

His mother was an abusive piece of shit to him, and his grandma meant well but eventually forced him to leave and go on his own. He's been through a couple unstable relationships with women, the last one (before this spic from Chile got him) who abruptly LEFT HIS HOUSE OVERNIGHT and stole the dog as well and took all her shit with her I tried to talk some sense into that girl because she was generally really nice to me, but something broke in her, don't know what, but it didn't sound like it was any kind of abuse-related issue and she didn't want to talk any further to me, so I gave up.

Also in the meantime while working his wagie job he also tried to get me introduced to dude weed lmao. I guess you can add that as another sign. And the final ingredient in this shit Sundae? Apparently he had undiagnosed ADHD, and only got it diagnosed a year after I got diagnosed (mines has been only a couple years and I had to do a shitload of tests to make sure it was the real thing). I suspect he probably also has autism or something but he's able to do well in his job, both at Best Buy and this new Audio-Visual job that he *appears* to be happy.

So horrible childhood life + fetishizing playing as a female in MMOs + ADHD/autism + and the final nail in the coffin - computer programming - AND having a feminist cunt of a gf (not gonna lie, I hope she gets deported) who ENCOURAGES your shit thinking = He was absolutely fucked the moment he was born.

So I don't know what to do at this point - if I should just ditch him right fucking now and assume he's a lost soul (troons have me made a bit more sympathetic to Christianity, idk why) or let this slowly rot where eventually I tell him off and leave or he 41%'s himself. The fact this fucker has been taking that HRT poison for 3-4 years when there is ZERO, absolutely ZERO health benefit to him fucking baffles me. I fear he's too far gone, the retard even takes the clot shot thinking it'll help him (both him and his feminazi gf got sick with the coof SIX times, I've only had it once).

The other people in the Discord server are also calling him by his new troon name too. But I suppose since they're leftists they will never question authority since they all took the clot shot themselves.

I wouldn't waste so much time writing this if he wasn't a close friend of mine. The plucky weeaboo who also enjoyed going to the gym to get swole is gone, and dead.
 
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Apparently he had undiagnosed ADHD, and only got it diagnosed a year after I got diagnosed (mines has been only a couple years and I had to do a shitload of tests to make sure it was the real thing). I suspect he probably also has autism or something but he's able to do well in his job, both at Best Buy and this new Audio-Visual job that he *appears* to be happy.
Yeah your friend is a faggot and you should probably cut your losses. Not all friendships last forever, sometimes two people grow in completely different directions. Leave the door open for him to come through in the future if he ever snaps out of his degeneracy, otherwise put your own peace first. Sorry for your loss.
I also want these faggots to get away from the ADHD community because it's already polluted with helpless losers that make the rest of us look bad. Fun fact, ADHD and autism symptoms overlap with a lot of other disorders, specifically borderline personality disorder. The main differences are the why of the symptoms. An autistic person will have a meltdown over some shitty texture or change in their routine, some BPD cow will have a meltdown over some perceived slight they made up in their head. I think BPD is severely underdiagnosed in males too.
BPD cows will also hide their BPD diagnosis and say they have autism because it has less stigma surrounding it. So every time you meet a total deranged degenerate, but they don't really seem like the traditional autist/adhd that you know, I like to assume it's probably some cluster b disorder.
 
So I guess it finally happened, and I figured it for a while, but a family member went full support for the trans train. They probably aren't going to troon out themselves but they complained about Trump "not acknowleging trans people". (Along with other vents about Trump.) This is from a person who would have never argued this eight years ago, (and was even Trump over Hillary), so I expect him to be surrounding himself with such people and perhaps try to string me along with it. I did argue back with him, but it sort of richocheted off with "needing to respect identity."

It makes me sad and brings me back to the older friends I lost. Mostly online, but I saw the same patterns in real life. They are nerdy and in some niche community, they discover trans stuff, and I point out any flaws with the community or their behavior and they chimp out at me and cut me off. At this point I can almost always predict when it will happen. Fortunately with this family member, they don't know much about the trans stuff (don't even know the difference between testosterone and estrogen) and aren't likely to lose their crap, but it is... concerning how normal this is becoming. It's very scary.
 
So one's planned in advance, but the other just happens?
I recall my first high school (ish?) party where it dawned on me people were already having sex. Of course we were all of legal sex age and we were going to a party with alcohol, but hearing "dude, people come here for sex" is what broke the ceiling for me. Of course parties are for sex and relationships, but compare that to a swinger party. One is thinly veiled and spicy, one is upfront and disgusting. Said troon 'friend' at one point said "I'm going to a furry party with some local trans friends" which is obviously gonna lead to sex, but to straight up say "I'm travelling hours to fuck several people at once" is beyond what fetishes I might have at the worst of times. That's driving, straight up fucking sober, killing Mother Earth for the sake of some guy's asshole.
I wouldn't waste so much time writing this if he wasn't a close friend of mine. The plucky weeaboo who also enjoyed going to the gym to get swole is gone, and dead.
More or less what happened to me twice over. The sober boring vanilla-gay dude dating some bro called JOE of all things. Slowly said friend got turned off sex, not happy about being reminded he was a gay dude having gay sex, eventually split with this good and honest man to date some woman. "Oh, so you're finally fucking and feeling good about it, dicking down a girl?", "UM SWEATY sex isn't just P IN V!!!". But yeah he was fucking a girl and it reignited his passions for life. Except he now wore stockings and had some faggoty instantly-clockable name.

Anyway compare that to another friend who also self-medicates, is clearly autistic and bipolar, but also 100% into troonydom for the fetishes of it. They're now "just" genderfluid because they like being called a failed faggot prior to this change. The difference between these two is that the first one was groomed into a change of values and beliefs, where the other is clearly in complete denial of it being a fetish and every now and then poking through it revealing as such. I cut the first one out of my life the second it got bad, whereas I still keep the second one on/off every other month/year for the sake of following the development. They'll never go full gay male again but at least they'll eventually crack and it'll be great.

Compare then both these to a tranny a family member works with. Boring ass forgettable nobody dude who lisps and has weak wrists who underwent surgery. No sex no fetishism no flamboyant clothing. He's the local quirky guy and that's about it. Whether or not he passes or find some equally boring partner, who gives a shit. It's these terminally online troons who actually prompt justified hate. Mere years between "I just wanna be a woman" and "I want a trans flag tattooed on my arm and to let everyone know I will never JUST be a woman!".

Anyway: My own boogieman has gone quiet. Every time I basically say "dude this is fucked and the kind of phase you should've had at 15", he agrees. Which makes it even worse he keeps spiralling. He knows it's bad, he's basically a 4chan/KF member in personality. He mocks troons like the best of them. Not that we spoke much in the first place but honestly, seeing how carelessly he ruins his body makes me believe he won't ever turn back. The femboy2troon pipeline is too real.
 
Had a friend, he doesn't know KiwiFarms exists so I don't fucking care if he sees this. Joseph, you are not a woman. You are confused, and the faggots you hang out with have lied to you and told you that just cause you like some feminine shit that you are a Tranny. You are not a tranny. You are just gay. Because you like fucking men. You need to shut the fuck up about getting a period that you don't have because you do not have ovaries. You have artificial hormones but it'll never be a real menstrual cycle and you need to accept that, you dumb faggot.
I wish he would wake the fuck up and come back because I care about him immensely. But holy shit, we went from fucking around to him being overly sensitive and unfunny in the span of a few months. I am not calling you by your new name, it's a dumb fucking name and being a woman doesnt get you relationships the way you think it does. Notice how none of your problems went away when you transitioned? Just accept you're a faggot, not a woman, and move on so we can go back to playing Hearts of Iron IV without you being an overly sensitive bitch.
 
I've got someone in my life who's become my personal lolcow now. Back in the early 2000s, she was unhappy that her brother was engaged to a black woman. Then her son trooned out because his therapist said he could cure his comorbidities through titty skittles, and now there's no line she will not cross. Spends all of her time talking about how privileged she is as a white woman and how she'd totally be killed if she went to town hall meetings as a black man (there's apparently a lot of MAGA in her town), complaining about her fibromyalgia and spoony living, wondering why her town hasn't been blessed with the diversity, posting pro-trans pics and memes all over Facebook and Twitter (probably moving to BlueSky soon), and writing poetry that has no rhyme, meter, or rhythm because it's literally just rants written with each line as its own paragraph.

I've seen this kind of 'poetry' cropping up all over lately because everyone has decided that it's the theme or some garbage that counts, not the skill of actually crafting a poem. I hope this trend never hits music or we'll no longer have lyrics that rhyme or notes that harmonize. I imagine random banging on a piano with whatever words coming out.

As for the son, I'd post a pic of him if it didn't come right back to me; he's one of the most unfortunate trannies I've ever seen.
 
Female relative coming back in a few months, around the summer to catch up. I'm dreading it in all honesty. She convinced her female fiance she was trans and said fiance had a mastectomy. There's a wedding sometime this year for them. They'll be in town for that too. I don't want to see how much she's changed. I honestly don't want to see her at all since she said I was "unsafe" to be around or whatever. I haven’t told anyone in our family about the conversation we had. I feel like I'm grieving a version of her that probably never existed. Does anyone have advice for how I can face her after everything? How do I even pretend things are normal? I don't know how to act and I'm afraid seeing her for the first time in person in years (especially after she said I was "unsafe") will just hurt me all over again. I'm not going to tell my family about our conversation because I don't think it would change anything. I also feel like it would be selfish to drag loved ones into a conflict that they don't have to be part of. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Female relative coming back in a few months, around the summer to catch up. I'm dreading it in all honesty. She convinced her female fiance she was trans and said fiance had a mastectomy. There's a wedding sometime this year for them. They'll be in town for that too. I don't want to see how much she's changed. I honestly don't want to see her at all since she said I was "unsafe" to be around or whatever. I haven’t told anyone in our family about the conversation we had. I feel like I'm grieving a version of her that probably never existed. Does anyone have advice for how I can face her after everything? How do I even pretend things are normal? I don't know how to act and I'm afraid seeing her for the first time in person in years (especially after she said I was "unsafe") will just hurt me all over again. I'm not going to tell my family about our conversation because I don't think it would change anything. I also feel like it would be selfish to drag loved ones into a conflict that they don't have to be part of. Any advice would be appreciated.
Grey rock.

Follow a rote script on what polite conversation in a family setting is with a relative or family friend you don't know well. Distant but not causing friction. Keep yourself engaged with other family members instead of her and find excuses to be busy with something "that just can't be helped" or put off. If she feels like a stranger, lean into that, and pretend that that's truly the case. It might suck but it'll be survivable hopefully.
 
This has been on my head for a while now, and I can't believe that the events that have taken place have actually taken place. I lost someone I knew for 4 years due to this, and he sadly couldn't be saved and will probably have to learn the hard way once he regrets his "transition" and realizes that trooning out over a fetish and other BS reasons I will get into was not a great idea and that he has to live with a damaged body.

There will be some power leveling (not too much, though), and this will be a bit of a peaking story on how it led to me realizing how harmful the ideology is. Also, this will be a long read since I just want to get all of this out and let it out of my system. This will also be a very long story, so read at your own will.

I knew this close friend for around 4 years and we were really damn close with each other. We did a lot of great and fun things that you don't really see a lot of modern friendships do, which made it great. I remember a lot about the friendship, and I even remember the day we met since I wanted to do special shit on those days.

It was 2019; I met him on Twitch, where he was streaming Geometry Dash way before the community got infested with troons. First we talked about some random GD layouts he was making and other GD-related things that nobody cares about; things were building. I then started to get in contact with him on groomcord and that's when things actually started to hit off and when things started to get personal and thus a friendship was born.

We would do a lot of goofy shit like personally trolling tech support scammers, making edgy levels in GD, screeching in calls, and a whole lot of retardation you would expect from immature idiots.

Once time started to fly by and we started to grow out of that phase, which led to us kind of going our own ways for a bit, but during this time we still talked and saw how each other was doing in life. Then somewhere in 2021 we reconnected, and during this was probably the best time we ever had with each other. We would hop on Destiny 2, GD, COD Zombies, and random games we would play when others would join in. And when we were not playing games, we would just talk about life and have deep conversations; everything was great. What could go wrong?


Well, things started to go wrong and out of the small respect I have for him I am not really gonna go too deep into the events of what was going wrong, but something happened in his life, and it stuck with him for a full year. Within a year, things were still great, but the more time went by, the more that we started to see him change.

The more we heard him speak, the clearer it became that he was adopting the Incel Ideology; he would start blaming a crush he had that HE knew that she had no fault in but wanted her to ask him out first, His views on women were just getting more distorted, and in general, he just blamed them for his lack of love he wanted.

It was a toxic mindset, and the rest of the group didn't want him to be an incel because there is no happiness in that, and the friendship would have to end if he fully embraced it. But after a couple of mental breakdowns from him and painfully long conversations, he started to pull out of that mindset, and the rest of the group was happy and things seem like they could go back to normal, and things were looking good like they were in 2021. Everything was chill and fun, and the group started to get ready with job hunting since we were hitting that age. Now nothing could go wrong.

But something worse would come along, and at the time I didn't see it because I was one of those that supported the nonsense that was about to come. As 2023 was starting, there were some strange things that he was doing. First he would become interested in anime, which he hated, but now he was interested out of nowhere? It was strange, but I didn't pay any mind as long as the anime he was watching wasn't garbage made for coomers, which sadly he liked, anime that were made for coomers like Konosuba.

So he liked coomer-anime, which sucked, but whatever, not the worst thing ever, but things got even weirder. He started to give out information that was just TMI like him liking futa-hentai. :cryblood:
It was weird as shit and others were weirded out for him to bring this up which thankfully he would stop that for now.

So he was into coomer-anime and futa-hentai, which was weird as shit, but since everyone (me included) had the "as long as you keep it to yourself" mindset, nobody cared. But man there were huge red flags for what was to come when I look back at this.

For a small period of time, I just did my own thing and for the most part I wasn't even online that much during this time. When I came back, I noticed he changed to an anime girl PFP from a troonslop anime named Bocchi the Rock, which seems to have a lot of troons behind it and even I knew that at the time but I was supporter of troons sadly so I didn't pay any mind. I was just weirded out since he used to hate anime and hentai, but now he was really embracing that lifestyle.

I didn't like anime since the genre has become pretty much softcore hentai with it's fuckloads of fanservice it loves to put in and I was a little afraid that he would go down another rabbit hole but this time of becoming a Incel he would become a full fledge coomer, in which he did, but it was masked.

So he was changing, and it was strange, and at some point I wanted to talk to him about this because I didn't want him to be a coomer knowing how the anime community is but that never happened because one day it was just me and him; we were just playing D2, and over time I noticed his voice was weirdly more feminine, and I asked if he was doing it on purpose. He said yes, which led to a long conversation about how he might have been trans and this is his true freedom of happiness. Since at the time I had a lot of empathy for troons, I agreed and wanted him to go trans to live his true self to be happy.

But man if only I had peaked back then because I feel like I could have prevented this.

Now with knowing this, I pushed aside all the thoughts I had about the weird shit that was going on with the hentai and weird shit that was going on and had a lot of empathy for him since I believed troons had it the hardest out of all the groups.

So for a while we would get in a lot of private calls talking about how he was doing and how it is to actually be a "girl" now; it was cringe as fuck looking back. I can't believe I actually supported this, but that's beside the point.
Others were starting to catch on to what happened, which sparked him to come out as "trans," and since the friend group became weirdly very progressive and would make fun of the right a lot, they were very glad to hear this.

His spiral to trooning out was getting worse and worse since everyone he knew supported this; every community he was a part of (Geometry Dash, Destiny 2) was filled with troons and allies now. A longtime friend he knew trooned out, someone we would play with a lot in a D2 server we were in, trooned out. It was getting to the point that when I did peak, it was pretty much impossible to pull him out, and thus this is where the peaking starts.

My close friend was starting to spiral harder and harder into troonery, which even at the time was making me feel uncomfortable. He was being open about his porn use, and I just didn't like it and told him to stop, in which he didn't like that. He would say that's one way of him expressing himself and that I shouldn't be against people that express themselves because it could lead to kink-shaming/transphobia and BS. I just accepted it since I didn't want to be a transphobe and didn't want to hurt his feelings for expressing his "true self.". But it was just so weird since he was so open about it, and I hated it, but I dealt with it for him though, but it kept getting worse. He started to tell me how he would get boners in women's clothing, and once again I said nothing but behind the scenes this is where I got my first peaked view of troons, and I started to question my own broken logic.

If he was really a "woman," then why would he get so horny wearing women's clothing? And why does it seem like he is basing his view on women on stereotypes? With thoughts like these, I tried pushing it down, but it just stayed there, and I wanted to see if I was the only one to see this, which I couldn't at first because almost everywhere I looked it was just troons and their allies saying it was a right-wing hoax and shit you would expect from them. I felt alone in having these thoughts and I was going insane because I started to ask myself if I was the problem? but than I remember this place which I saw at the time as a stalker hate site that tries to push the people they stalk to end their lives. But for a moment I brushed those thoughts aside and decided to browse Stinkditch, and on that day, that's when I peaked.

A lot of the shit I was seeing from troons was just proving the thoughts I had, porn-addicted, rapey incels masking as "true and honest" women. And not only that a lot of these said troons were "former incels," which aligns with the friend I had since before this whole thing; he was starting to adopt incel ideology. Everything started to click, and that, my friend, turned into a disgusting, porn-addicted troon that only views women as stereotypes.

With this now in mind, I didn't know what to do. Every time I tried even inching to have this conversation, I would always get a reply telling me I was becoming a transphobe which is just as bad as racism and all that BS, and with all my attempts of trying to pull him out and telling him that everything he went through was going to waste due to this. It didn't matter; it was too late, and he was too consumed in this vile ideology, and after a while of just talking with him here and there with his "uwu speak," I couldn't take it anymore. I blocked him and cut ties with him which was not easy, but I don't know what I could do, and at the time, watching the trans ideology grow, it was just terrible.

I was hoping he knew this would be a bad idea, but nope, even almost a year later, when I pretended to change that I was no longer "transphobic" to see if he might have gotten some sense into him, but nope, he is even worse now. I watched his stream, and during the whole Kris Tyson thing, he was looking at thumbnails and was more focused on why they were using the same thumbnail of Kris Tyson that made him look ugly instead of the actions he did, and he also used she/her pronouns for Kris. (:_(

And to make it worse, afterwards he is like "I'M SUCH A GIRL GUYS MM I AM SUCH A GIRL CHAT OH YEAH" and that he has started HRT.
With seeing this I just realized that he is fucked for good and I re-blocked him not even trying this time since he will not change by anyone's word.

So that is my long-term best friend consumed and eaten by troonery; this story may have seemed messy since I tried to leave out a lot of details not to PL too heavily, but fuck. This is how a friendship ends? Everything we went through is now just gone because of trooning out?

I hope this ideology actually comes to an end now, I don't care who is in charge of doing it. IT NEEDS TO GO.
 
I've written here before about a friend of mine who trooned out; I just found out recently that the reason he took a "break" from social media before coming out wasn't because of his depression. It was because he cheated on his fiance and raped someone while doped up on amphetamines and got kicked out of her house.

What the fuck.
 
will just hurt me all over again. I'm not going to tell my family about our conversation because I don't think it would change anything. I also feel like it would be selfish to drag loved ones into a conflict that they don't have to be part of. Any advice would be appreciated.
Don’t have any expectations: it will probably be disappointing and sad for you, it’s very unlikely that she’ll drop to her knees and change.

This is probably unpopular to say on the farms, but that day is still her and her fiancés’ big day after all. It’s also big for all the other loved ones. This issue doesn’t have to be brought up then and there at all. You might have to just grin and bear it, polite smile, shake hand, congratulations. After you showed your face for a socially acceptable period of time it’s perfectly fine to leave. “I have to run an errand!”

If it feels too much for you to bear, it’s also ok to not show up. “Oh shoot I have a doctors appointment right on that day!” No one has to know why you are really not showing up.

If your conscience really feels it needs to be brought up, just wait until next time you see her. If shes ever gonna be in an open and honest place of mind to talk about tranny issue, it sure as hell won’t be the week she’s getting married.
 
Don’t have any expectations: it will probably be disappointing and sad for you, it’s very unlikely that she’ll drop to her knees and change.

This is probably unpopular to say on the farms, but that day is still her and her fiancés’ big day after all. It’s also big for all the other loved ones. This issue doesn’t have to be brought up then and there at all. You might have to just grin and bear it, polite smile, shake hand, congratulations. After you showed your face for a socially acceptable period of time it’s perfectly fine to leave. “I have to run an errand!”

If it feels too much for you to bear, it’s also ok to not show up. “Oh shoot I have a doctors appointment right on that day!” No one has to know why you are really not showing up.

If your conscience really feels it needs to be brought up, just wait until next time you see her. If shes ever gonna be in an open and honest place of mind to talk about tranny issue, it sure as hell won’t be the week she’s getting married.
Yeah, I'm not invested in ruining her wedding day. Even if she were getting married in a tin shack in Mexico, I wouldn't be bringing something up to ruin it (aside from the occasional gripe about no A/C and not understanding what the priest is saying). I'm not autistic enough to sperg out at the ceremony. That's as unnecessary as it is retarded.

Grey rock.

Follow a rote script on what polite conversation in a family setting is with a relative or family friend you don't know well. Distant but not causing friction. Keep yourself engaged with other family members instead of her and find excuses to be busy with something "that just can't be helped" or put off. If she feels like a stranger, lean into that, and pretend that that's truly the case. It might suck but it'll be survivable hopefully.
I appreciate the grey-rock advice. I'll use that if anything twans related comes up (it likely will :lossmanjack:) Polite disinterest will be a good tool, as will changing the subject to something else. if she gets that triggered over neutrality, she can take a hike. She knows how I feel and if she goes out of her way to mention it to me, the best she's getting is a change in subject lmfao.

Your situations sound awful, @Coldsteel the Hedgehog and @Totally not a red flag. Wishing for better months ahead of us all. :feels:
 
But man if only I had peaked back then because I feel like I could have prevented this.
Don't be hard on yourself, feel no regret. What you have gone through has made you into the man you are today. However, you will always need to seek growth, especially in this day and age; you saw first hand how easily degeneracy can take root, all it needs is for you to let it in when it comes knocking.
I've seen (and unfortunately, been a part of) some horror stories first hand being a young kid with unrestricted internet access and later having a discord account. It's probably one of the worst things for the developing brain, getting caught up in these intentional or unintentional grooming communities. Most are beyond help and you need to continue on your path.
My sympathies, bro.
(troons have me made a bit more sympathetic to Christianity, idk why)
I maintain that it's due to demonic possession and nothing can convince me otherwise after what I've experienced. Is this not exactly like alcoholism, drug abuse or any other vice? This friend of yours invited demons into his life and now he is dead. Ever watch the movie Nefarious? It provides a good, albeit dramatized, representation of this concept. Pirate it though, because it was directed by two jews lol. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist."
Anyways, no need to hate him or emotionally explode on him. You could just respectfully explain yourself, tell him you forgive him and move on. Be a light to his darkness, but don't go wasting wick if you know what I mean. God bless.
 
I've got someone in my life who's become my personal lolcow now. Back in the early 2000s, she was unhappy that her brother was engaged to a black woman. Then her son trooned out because his therapist said he could cure his comorbidities through titty skittles, and now there's no line she will not cross. Spends all of her time talking about how privileged she is as a white woman and how she'd totally be killed if she went to town hall meetings as a black man (there's apparently a lot of MAGA in her town), complaining about her fibromyalgia and spoony living, wondering why her town hasn't been blessed with the diversity, posting pro-trans pics and memes all over Facebook and Twitter (probably moving to BlueSky soon), and writing poetry that has no rhyme, meter, or rhythm because it's literally just rants written with each line as its own paragraph.

I've seen this kind of 'poetry' cropping up all over lately because everyone has decided that it's the theme or some garbage that counts, not the skill of actually crafting a poem. I hope this trend never hits music or we'll no longer have lyrics that rhyme or notes that harmonize. I imagine random banging on a piano with whatever words coming out.

As for the son, I'd post a pic of him if it didn't come right back to me; he's one of the most unfortunate trannies I've ever seen.
>full of white guilt
>is secretly racist

That's usually how it goes, isn't it?
 
>full of white guilt
>is secretly racist

That's usually how it goes, isn't it?
LOl, yep. I don't know if she's secretly racist or if she dropped her brain into the liberal looney bin and forgot her previous principles. Strangely, I think her bro and his family are the most reasonable and well-adjusted of the bunch, even with his black wife always taking off to attend black power stuff. I can't remember when, but I think she's been on a few pilgrimages to Egypt for we wuz kingz crap.

Her sister is a good liberal, too, who went into full lockdown during COVID and wouldn't even go outside to get her groceries when they were delivered. She'd make sure to wash everything and silently thank the driver for sacrificing her life to keep her privileged self fed. Her kid spent her birthday entirely alone because literally no one was allowed in or out of the house. I just about died from laughter when I heard she somehow got the coronavirus anyway.

I very seldom know real-life lolcows. They keep me entertained and shaking my head at the same time. Exasperated when the troon parent one barges into meetings to tell white MAGA men "things they don't want to hear."
 
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