Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

They'll do it right after one of them gets successfully sued for the damage they caused.
I do think the current transgender craze will be overturned eventually, but we are nowhere near that point yet. I would guess we are still years away from any chance of a successful lawsuit for damages over transitioning. Even then, it will be a steep uphill battle. The regime will fight tooth and nail to defend trannies.
 
I am doubtful that """gender dysphoria""" as trannies portray it actually exists at all. If it does exist, then:

1. Trooning is not a proper """treatment""" for it.
2. It is extremely rare to the point that the average person would never encounter anyone in their life who has it, and the overwhelming majority of troons these days do not have it.

The increase in trannies over the past 20 years (probably even over the past 10) has been exponential, finding honest data about it would probably be hard, but we all know how massive it has been, probably thousands of percent or even more. There is no way that that amount of people were ackchyually sitting around with this invisible undiagnosed mental condition this whole time and no one noticed then all of a sudden practically overnight they all emerged from the closet. It's pretty wild to me that your average NPC unironically believes this with little to no skepticism.
It's a cult. It has all the signs and symptoms. It's just a cult favoured by political types and medical health types, which makes it extremely fucking dangerous.

Pour one out for all the straight girls caught up in this bullshit. Tomboys no more.
 
When i was in my early 20s i was in a relationship with a woman that in retrospect hit all the boxes to become a victim of the cult.

She never trooned but she was a certified lunatic. Bipolar, lots of trauma from childhood sexual abuse, it was a very toxic relatioship but i was young and much more clueless about crybullying, energy vampires and bpd histrionics and she taped into my natural tendency to be protective and caring so i got emotionally fucked pretty badly.

She would sometimes say how she wanted to disfigure her body or change it drastically for no reason, sometimes it would involve removing her breasts but often was more about "what if i completely fuck up my face with plastic surgery so i am not recognizable anymore". She said these things in passing and i never paid that much attention because it was the same as when she said other dumb stuff like "what if i suddenly wake up transformed into a cat", i responded half jokingly and would say something sweet but only in retrospect i realize the thread between all the weird self hating crap she said and how unconfortable she was with her body and sexuality. She had massive issues and would often flip flop about her sexual atractions , she was the kind of person who tried to change identity every other week with some other new thing she read online and yes, she eventually did start talking about always wanting to be a man but that was close to the cutting point of my relation with her.

Fas as i know she never trooned, just made a few histrionic gestures like cutting all her super long hair in an autistic fit she got one night. Which pissed me off because it was very pretty and took her years to grow. I don't think she was gay or bisexual or pan or any of that bullshit either, she was straight as fuck just had massive issues with asimilating her own body and sexuality, like if she really really hated herself for being straight as fuck, and she was easily sugestible by other people and stuff she read, it was like a fucking toddler in the body of a mid 20s woman and it was sad because the side i liked of her was of a very smartass girl that didn't fuck around and was fun to do weird stuff with but it was all covered in layers of mental illness and my own mental state got so much worse during that time too.

When i read this thread i think a lot of her. I am pretty certain that this woman living in a different country would have absolutely made an impulsive decision to harm herself and tried to go for hormones or surgery in one of her autistic fits but we were third wolders and broke as shit, even if she did though about trooning thats literally doesn't work that way here, is not "knock knock, i come for my hormones and butchery appointment" like it is in burguerland.

She cried about her hair for months afterwards btw, she always did. Whenever she made a life changing decision that came to her in an epiphany that bullshit would last two weeks before regret came but she always tried to fish for unconditional support and sympathy, like a BPD would.

if she found a discord full or fujoshis lovebombing her, she was exactly the kind of person to get the idea in her head, not back down until it was too late, make a very big spectacle and ask for all her loved ones to validate her, then regret it forever and feel depresed and suicidal about her choped tits.
 
I typed a lot but to sum it up, the FtMs in my life have been suibaiting extra hard since Texas announced war on child SRS.

I hate this for them, I hate how miserable they are, and I want to slap them off the internet. Maybe they were always going to be depressed and miserable and suicidal no matter where or when they'd been born but this shit feels so self-made and I hate it for them.
 
I typed a lot but to sum it up, the FtMs in my life have been suibaiting extra hard since Texas announced war on child SRS
This is normal for the trans movement; it's not like that they'll gain anything by actually doing it...Except for trying to force someone out of office, which won't happen because they rarely go through with their threats.
 
I typed a lot but to sum it up, the FtMs in my life have been suibaiting extra hard since Texas announced war on child SRS.

I hate this for them, I hate how miserable they are, and I want to slap them off the internet. Maybe they were always going to be depressed and miserable and suicidal no matter where or when they'd been born but this shit feels so self-made and I hate it for them.
i am guessing a lot of political support against the child SRS comes in part from the large hispanic population in Texas, it must cause some short circuit in the fujos being backstabed by their precious PoCs

Something so self contradictory cannot sustain itself forever. I am hopin the lunacy subsides sooner than later.
 
I was friends with a based butch lesbian from a homophobic (and not in the Tumblr sense) family throughout most of my teen years. We 'jokingly' flirted as I'm closeted (mainly to avoid gender politics and trans crud), and overtime I developed feelings for her that went beyond our close friendship (it was by far the deepest friendship I'd ever had at that point in my life, and I didn't want to wreck it with romantic bullshit, so I kept my mouth shut). We hit 17 and I'd finally gotten brave enough to tell her my feelings, which I suspected she'd already picked up on, when she went on hormones, starved herself to get rid of her female form, chopped her breasts off and did a full personality shift. I feel like a coward for distancing myself, but I didn't know what else to do. I couldn't in good conscience support what she was doing, but I didn't want to hurt her or get into a friendship-ending fight over it. Looking back, maybe I should've done something about it.

I still miss my best friend and think of what might've been. Had it not been for the barrage of propaganda she was met with when she finally got into mental health services (long waitlists and her family was poor), I'm convinced she never would've transitioned. But there's no going back in time.
 
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It's like, these were all cool different individual women that at some point in time I liked for one reason or another. Now they're all the same terminally online Gaidens and they all vocally want to fucking kill themselves weekly.

Maybe if most of the FtMs I knew weren't so suicidal every time I check on them, I wouldn't be so worried about women trooning out. But here we are.

Did I misunderstand something about the Texas bill? (None of these women are in Texas by the way.) My understanding was the state will investigate parents who have their kids undergo teetus deletus and frankenpenis surgeries or get put on Lupron for gender shit, not genocide schoolgirls that want to be called a boy name and have a stupid haircut for a semester because all their friends are.

None of it has anything to do with these childless adult Aidens either, and none of them were given SRS or hormone blockers when they were underage. Why take that away from kids? Are they envious?
 
I wanted to drop an update: I don't really need to link to the first time I mentioned this guy but I'll give a tl;dr. Short version is a recently trooned guy was making a concerted effort for about two months to show up to a local gathering, have a bizarre autistic fit, and try to pressure his way into conversations with women. By effectively terfing the women in the group and teaching them to give him the silent treatment, he quit our group for about six months.

Yet returns, possibly for the last time, this last Friday. Two men in the group encouraged it - the biggest losers, one a famed two-time cuck who uses "queer" liberally, acts like he Speaks For The Gays despite being very straight, and whose past two steady relationships resolved in him getting cheated on or smouldering out into a brief """open relationship""". The other a drunk whose closest friends are a furry in a polycule and a pair of 'nonbinaries.' Despite the manner in which we'd effectively chased the troon off, they stupidly kept in touch, fawning over his potato selfies with hearts and "looking beautiful!"s on Facebook. All this despite not really being his friend prior to the trooning. I think they're just happy to have someone on their friends list so they can feel involved whenever the troons are in the news.

Anyway, I think we managed fine. He showed up looking like hell, like a 35 year old man dressed as a grandma, because that's what he is. He pretty much only managed to strike a conversation with his two allies and of course they lovebombed the fuck out of him. The rest of us just have nothing to say to him. He followed my friend around a lot - the one whose name he admitted to stealing - and I'm just glad that at the end of the night when I asked her she was able to admit she had noticed him doing that. It feels like a big step, to be able to complain about him openly using his real name and real pronouns without having to go "I don't want to sound like a transphobe" first. At one point it was just myself and some other women at a table talking bullshit and I could see him staring at us and then like... jerking his head away, like he was trying to watch us without us noticing but only cared if one of us noticed.

So yeah, it was pretty shitty. I'm glad that my tactic of just absolutely stonewalling has paid off in that he understands not to approach me anymore. And after this meeting neither of his allies will be attending anymore for a long time so I don't think I'll need to see him for ages. I think it's just very telling that even when he skeevs out every woman in the building, the men just don't give a fuck. He's a political token and the fact that he's creepy and doesn't pass and poisons the group as a whole is completely irrelevant in the face of that.
 
I typed a lot but to sum it up, the FtMs in my life have been suibaiting extra hard since Texas announced war on child SRS.

I hate this for them, I hate how miserable they are, and I want to slap them off the internet. Maybe they were always going to be depressed and miserable and suicidal no matter where or when they'd been born but this shit feels so self-made and I hate it for them.
To be quite honest, I hope that more states outlaw such things because the things they are doing to children doesn't actually help them at all, especially the puberty blockers.

Does anyone remember when thalidomide babies came to be and it disabled a significant portion of the population? The usage of puberty blockers will create many adults that need medical care and will most likely be on welfare, putting a burden on the nation's budget. At least with thalidomide, you had some that at least were able to live a good life. With puberty blockers, it fucks you up for your whole life.

It's like, these were all cool different individual women that at some point in time I liked for one reason or another. Now they're all the same terminally online Gaidens and they all vocally want to fucking kill themselves weekly.

Maybe if most of the FtMs I knew weren't so suicidal every time I check on them, I wouldn't be so worried about women trooning out. But here we are.

Did I misunderstand something about the Texas bill? (None of these women are in Texas by the way.) My understanding was the state will investigate parents who have their kids undergo teetus deletus and frankenpenis surgeries or get put on Lupron for gender shit, not genocide schoolgirls that want to be called a boy name and have a stupid haircut for a semester because all their friends are.

None of it has anything to do with these childless adult Aidens either, and none of them were given SRS or hormone blockers when they were underage. Why take that away from kids? Are they envious?
Because they're not thinking about the kids, they're thinking about themselves. When people start going for anyone in the trans population, they immediately think "They're coming for me next. My way of life will be altered soon."

Think about when some mtf is raping a girl and goes to jail. When people start saying "I think the trans population has some issues with sexual predators", they don't try to fix that issue in their community, they immediately go "We're all being labeled as sexual predators. I will be labeled as a sexual predator. My way of life will be altered soon," and immediately tell that person who said that to shut up.
 
I've always hoped that I'd never have to post in this thread, but... it happened.

I used to be friends with a guy. Let's call him Alexander.

Alexander was one of the smartest people I have ever met. He was awarded a very prestigious scholarship (I'm not sure where he ended up going, but this scholarship typically translates to either a full ride or tens of thousands of dollars off tuition at public universities), was winning national awards in high school, and he always, always had something insightful to say when you talked to him. Never had a bad thing to say about anyone, either - he was the kind of guy that everybody liked, and the kind of the guy that could do anything and also be really fucking good at it. If it sounds like I'm sucking his dick here a little bit, I admit, I even kind of had a crush on the guy back in high school, but everything I'm saying is true.

Now, there were some early warning signs that I probably should've paid more attention to. He rarely cut his hair (for years). He never was interested in any kind of sports or athletic activities. He liked Homestuck even more than I did. He even wore a dress to school during one of the last days of school, but I figured it was some weird art kid prank and didn't pry - he did have a girlfriend at the time, so why would I think he was a troon?

A few days ago, I was reminiscing about him with a friend, and I decided to do a Google search out of curiosity, to see if he's won the Nobel Prize or anything yet.

He did not.

He is now going by Alyx and uses they/them pronouns, according to his Twitter.

I wish him the best, at least. I genuinely hope he's happy, wherever he is, even though there's about a 41% chance he isn't. I really fucking miss the guy and I wish I could've done something that would've put him on a better path.

The only other MtF troon I know is this psycho AGP that bit me, tried to stab me with a pencil in middle school, and ate bird shit off the ground so he could try to turn into Muk from Pokémon. I never really considered him a "loss" for obvious reasons.
 
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The only other MtF troon I know is this psycho AGP that bit me, tried to stab me with a pencil in middle school, and ate bird shit off the ground so he could try to turn into Muk from Pokémon. I never really considered him a "loss" for obvious reasons.
This... Sounds like a story for the personal lolcows thread. I am both grossed out and engrossed.
 
I have lost friends to that garbage but I managed to save one as well.
First friend, let's call him Steaks. Steaks was perhaps the best gamer I've known. He'd wipe the floor with me at Skullgirls and other fighting games. He was also very friendly towards literally everyone and loved gifting me and friends a lot of Steam games.
The one day Troonism happened. In the Discord we both shared, someone posted a link about Transgender Dudes teaching about Transgenderism to children in schools. Me and some other friends in the same Server felt disgusted. Not Steaks. In fact, Steaks felt attacked. I mentioned how Trannies deserved nothing but psychological help because that shit ain't good. Steaks called me an "alt-right cunt" and hateful person before blocking everyone and leaving. I later learned he was a tranny all along. Perhaps I was the one at fault, perhaps not.

Second friend (well, not really friend but I was in decent terms with him) let's call him Raiden. Shortly after the incident with Steaks, this guy decided that he had Gender Dysphoria. Just like that. Self-diagnosed too. Raiden decided to call me a "hateful asshole" and block me and other people who refused to acknowledge his imaginary gender. Unlike Steaks, his departure wasn't missed by me or the rest of our group, as he was often considered a fucking schizo and attention whore. (Raiden also wanted to contact some guy from 4chan who was grooming kids into taking HRT, Why? Because Raiden liked the attention.)

But not all is bad news. Let's call this third friend Clover. Openly gay, formerly a NEET (This one is important). Unlike Steaks and Raiden, Clover was actually more level headed. Sure, he acted (and keeps acting) like a faggot, and at some point he confesed me that he considered taking HRT and surgery as he didn't feel like he was a guy. However, he also mentioned something important: He didn't want to destroy his body and family, so he endured. He lived 5 years as a NEET, rarely leaving his room and refusing to get a job, but me and another friend, convinced him to do something with his life. He did. Clover enrolled into University, got the best marks in his class, graduated with honors and now he has a stable job as a Programmer. He also thanked me for helping him out of his depression and mentioned me during his graduation speech.

It should be clear that I don't hate Troons. I hate the whole idea and cult behind Troonism. I hate Troons who actively demand retarded shit to feel better about them.
 
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I have lost friends to that garbage but I managed to save one as well.
First friend, let's call him Steaks. Steaks was perhaps the best gamer I've known. He'd wipe the floor with me at Skullgirls and other fighting games. He was also very friendly towards literally everyone and loved gifting me and friends a lot of Steam games.
The one day Troonism happened. In the Discord we both shared, someone posted a link about Transgender Dudes teaching about Transgenderism to children in schools. Me and some other friends in the same Server felt disgusted. Not Steaks. In fact, Steaks felt attacked. I mentioned how Trannies deserved nothing but psychological help because that shit ain't good. Steaks called me an "alt-right cunt" and hateful person before blocking everyone and leaving. I later learned he was a tranny all along. Perhaps I was the one at fault, perhaps not.

Second friend (well, not really friend but I was in decent terms with him) let's call him Raiden. Shortly after the incident with Steaks, this guy decided that he had Gender Dysphoria. Just like that. Self-diagnosed too. Raiden decided to call me a "hateful asshole" and block me and other people who refused to acknowledge his imaginary gender. Unlike Steaks, his departure wasn't missed by me or the rest of our group, as he was often considered a fucking schizo and attention whore. (Raiden also wanted to contact some guy from 4chan who was grooming kids into taking HRT, Why? Because Raiden liked the attention.)

But not all is bad news. Let's call this third friend Clover. Openly gay, formerly a NEET (This one is important). Unlike Steaks and Raiden, Clover was actually more level headed. Sure, he acted (and keeps acting) like a faggot, and at some point he confesed me that he considered taking HRT and surgery as he didn't feel like he was a guy. However, he also mentioned something important: He didn't want to destroy his body and family, so he endured. He lived 5 years as a NEET, rarely leaving his room and refusing to get a job, but me and another friend, convinced him to do something with his life. He did. Clover enrolled into University, got the best marks in his class, graduated with honors and now he has a stable job as a Programmer. He also thanked me for helping him out of his depression and mentioned me during his graduation speech.

It should be clear that I don't hate Troons. I hate the whole idea and cult behind Troonism. I hate Troons who actively demand retarded shit to feel better about them.
Fingers crossed for "Clover", but really you might've just delayed the trooning. Troons and programming are like PB&J. That's the biggest group that will have other troons to love bomb him, even in real life, if he makes any mention of his previous interest.

So be hopeful, but don't be surprised if in two years or so he's calling himself Princess Jazmine Bootiful Sexay.
 
Edit: Her also saying that sex with animals is okay also added to that
Yeaaaah drop her like a rock if you can. You're distancing yourself already, but telling someone they fucked up by saying they'd fuck an animal is never a bad thing.

Wait until public schools have mandatory "trans-screening", similar to lice and hearing screening in which children in grade school and high school are periodically required to stand in line while they are called one by one to sit on a chair in a small room under a hot lamp while they are interrogated by an inquisitor-like troon to look for signs of being "trans" and has the legal authority to require a child's parents to start them on the path of "transitioning" if the transquisitor does determine a child is "trans".
I'd love to see the test for that. Parents would be rioting. Imagine the backlash from conservative Black, Muslim, Hispanic, etc. communities.

Satanist are so boring. There's too many of them that do it for attention, much like troons, and too many who think they're bending reality, also just like troons.

Are they also trying to push out lesbian ciswomen?
As others said, if you don't suck the girldick, you get the stick.

Ironically when the LGB made their own groups trans people have fucking meltdowns. They want to be a part of the LGBT since so many are "LGB", but treat the group like it's TQ+LBG. "YOU HAVE IT BETTER THAN ME SO THEREFORE YOU MUST BE KIND TO MEEEEE!" It's a spoiled, envious child's concept of fairness.

By the way, no offense to the LGB people, but I always thought that the "Q" in the alphabet acronym was redundant, as I thought that "queer" and gay/lesbian mean the same thing, and there are so many letters in the acronym now, that it has become confusing and unwieldy.
Queer became a catch all since it pulls everyone questioning and in between identities together. Adding Q is like adding the + but usually more letters are put in anyway because fuck you.

No one is trying to actually help these people and make sure that they have a good life, they just want to feel good in their chest for a few minutes and not think about what they just did to someone permanently.
If I could pick thread highlights, this entire post is what I'd pick.

Slacktivism, a general undereducation of people, and a search for a panacea has pained everyone involved in troonism, whether they're a troon or tangentally related. It's why I emphasized "Destructive" in the OP. Good post mate.

Which makes the "non-dysphoric trans people" going on hrt all the more horrifying.
I consider them part of the body mod cult. Body moders range from alright to bonkers like the name implies.

Finally, a lot of the "trans" people are also not "trans" but are AGPs or fujoshis. If you want to crossdress or whatever, for some sort of sexual thrill, fine, but these people should be denied "transition" as it should be instilled in them that the actual physical process of transitioning is more akin to sexual maiming or worse.
We aren't allowed to say this yet and it's sad. We won't get a pushback on this until some senator's daughter is assaulted by a troon, which could be a long time, and no one wants an assault to happen in the first place. :(

The tl;dr of my personal trans opinion is a lot like my abortion opinion: safe, legal, rare.
Aunt Carol confirmed high class rare-cooked baby eater. I knew you were a woman of taste.

I feel as if it's essentially a whirlpool that lures young people in with the promise of becoming special and beloved. Because as others have stated in this thread, being trans gives you a layer of immunity.
Also a hard yes on this.

I typed a lot but to sum it up, the FtMs in my life have been suibaiting extra hard since Texas announced war on child SRS.

I hate this for them, I hate how miserable they are, and I want to slap them off the internet. Maybe they were always going to be depressed and miserable and suicidal no matter where or when they'd been born but this shit feels so self-made and I hate it for them.
How do you still stand to be around them right now? Are you friends or tangentially friends?

i am guessing a lot of political support against the child SRS comes in part from the large hispanic population in Texas, it must cause some short circuit in the fujos being backstabed by their precious PoCs

Something so self contradictory cannot sustain itself forever. I am hopin the lunacy subsides sooner than later.
I love it when the Latinos think for themselves. Makes me laugh every time the left cries that one of their pet minorities isn't listening to them or betrayed them.

I'm convinced she never would've transitioned. But there's no going back in time.
The last sentence is the only way you can see it. There's no sense in beating yourself up either: you were a kid and so was she. It's tragic but it's in the past and not something you need to feel guilt for, just that you can mourn. You probably know that, but I want to make sure of it homie. :heart-empty:


I'm glad that my tactic of just absolutely stonewalling has paid off in that he understands not to approach me anymore.
I'm so proud of you. Fostering true solidarity between you all. :heart-full:
 
Just found out the gay kid at my college is going into the girl's bathrooms just to talk to his friends. This isn't Mean Girls you fucking dick. I am going to drag you by your crusty ass hair tf out. I can't complain bc u kno he's gon pull that "I'm trans" bs.
 
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