Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Paper Machete]

I've never been trans but I am on the other side of the fence being someone who is probably seen as someone that trooned out by others.

What you describe in your post IS what being trans is. A fetish you developed. There is no such thing as a "real" trans person in the sense it's a real phenomenon to "be in the wrong body". There are only people who think they should act out being a woman for any variety of reasons, usually fetish related, as you did.

Also lol
> be retarded
> is agp

I seriously hope you're doing better and getting off this shit though if what you're saying is true. I would look into help in recovering from sexual addiction and other related mental help if possible because the compulsion will likely still exist until you do.

 

[Not A Bunny]

There is no such thing as a "real" trans person in the sense it's a real phenomenon to "be in the wrong body". There are only people who think they should act out being a woman for any variety of reasons, usually fetish related, as you did.

I think most people who identify as trans really don't know how to act like the opposite sex.

There's something very fundamental about the behaviors of men versus women. Even the ones who hardcore transition, there's still something underlying about their behaviors that come across as their birth sex, and that are recognizable to almost anyone. We joke about the "It's MA'AM" guy, but the aggressive approach he took when being called "sir" is undoubtedly male. Same with that one FtM that cried online about how lonely men are. That's an undoubtedly female point of view, and if this person where fundamentally male at her core, she would neither be shocked by this, nor crying online about it.

At that point, it's just denial. And how you know trannies are pretty delusional.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

She is a trans cult member and it looks like she is on some kind of spiritual quest to be "reborn as a man" aka transitioning.

Made me think of how as of recently I got more into Christianity, and she expressed some interest too. It happened around 5 months ago when I made the post, and I thought that maybe it means she will eventually drop this insanity. Nope. Now she thinks that God is blessing her to do this. That getting trouble at her job is a sign that she needs to drop it all off and follow her "dreams" and her "truth", or whatever. She plans on reading the Bible while staying in jail, but not now, and as of currently, her interest is painfully superficial and she seems to assume that actual Christianity must be woke™, judging by her getting offended at pretty much any biblical concept that gets brought up. So that failed, I guess...

Couldn't she get a job where she is, save money and then get an on-demand mastectomy from the cheapest place within a budget flight's distance?

Yeah, she actually managed to save enough money relatively quickly (read, by not consooming for a year) that can cover this. But yes, I guess it's not as cool as living up some fanfiction plot of "living your truth" and working in 'murican Starbucks but ideally crafting random trinkets on Etsy. Yes, that is the better option than to approach her life realistically and that maybe the kandi bracelet making while shooting your leg with steroids when you already have serious endocrine problems isn't a "calling" worth of dropping a relatively stable environment with a federal job that could have paid her even more if she actually worked bare required minimum. Alas, she possesses zero adulting skills. And I really mean zero, she's got a maturity of a 10 year old child while being in her 30s.

I guess it is a painfully lost cause then, no matter how bad I feel about it. What makes it even more deranged is how she openly admits she has been groomed: that transmeds conditioned her to transition because in order to be considered valid™ you must fully transition, even if you identify as enbie xenogender as she does. So now she "has" to go on T in order to chop off breasts and declare herself trans. No, no, trans identities are still real and nobody is grooming anybody, it's fascist propaganda. Although, it's something she said a year ago or so, maybe there's another story she tells people nowadays. Still, she admits to being groomed.

I still hope all this shit is just performative retardation, she has your typical BPD sensationalist traits when she clearly says things for shock value, but horrifically enough, she's dead set on this and having someone else psychotic enough to enable this doesn't help.

Then again, I'm on Kiwifarms. If anything a decade of browsing these forums taught me, is that all hope is usually lost for these types of people.

 

[Not A Bunny]

all hope is usually lost for these types of people.

It's such a severe change that they need to "sunken cost" their justification of it.

Your community will hate you if you detransition, and everyone else think you're an asshole for buying into it.

We're not forgiving as a society and while that's generally a problem, people who indulge in this sort of thing were always looking for an extreme thing to make themselves feel something. They'd find something to sink their "poor me" impulses into. It's just this is what they chose, and that's just flatlining.

 

[You're MDNWU]

Even the ones who hardcore transition, there's still something underlying about their behaviors that come across as their birth sex, and that are recognizable to almost anyone.

The most obvious way to figure this out when online is seeing how overtly sexual for no reason or out of the blue.

Immediate red flag that troons can't hide from because they're porn sick/retarded.

 

[AfghanBlue]

"Original and Actual" to really spice it up

"Name (XX) "

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Then again, I'm on Kiwifarms. If anything a decade of browsing these forums taught me, is that all hope is usually lost for these types of people.

Detransners are thing as are transavoidancers but cult thinking is strong. I don't want to give you false hope but neither sell you hopeless nihilism. You can't control what others do but you can try to affect it and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

There is no guaranteed how this will turn out. The best KiwiFarms can offer is a place rant and laugh about it to make the journey, what ever it is, easier.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

You can't control what others do but you can try to affect it and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Trying my best. I'm a desister myself, and I've been dropping pretty obvious hints and terfy points for years, but it seems like she registers it as "free choice" and me "living my truth".

This is arguably one of root issues of genderism, they live in a postmodern reality where only subjective truth exists. Those who are okay with detransitioners or desisters always defend them from the position that people should have a right to talk about their experiences and how it didn't work out for them. Objective truth doesn't matter, it all boils down to "what makes you happy". Whatever that means, they can point at the most miserable creature in existence living under thousands of layers of denial and say how happy they are. And then when these creatures die from complications or 41%ing after realizing the damage that they did to themselves, troon cult will blame the twansphobic medical system and people.

Clown world.

 

[AMHOLIO]

A serious question about how you would feel and what to do if your own child trooned out was proposed in Deep Thought.

How would you react to your son declaring themself to be a woman? Have any of the Kiwis encountered this?

Karen's friend's son trooned out, detailed in the thread. Posting it here too so anyone who doesn't look at deep thought or anything in thunderdome can see it.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

A serious question about how you would feel and what to do if your own child trooned out was proposed in Deep Thought.

Karen's friend's son trooned out, detailed in the thread. Posting it here too so anyone who doesn't look at deep thought or anything in thunderdome can see it.

Thank you. I've just been looking for this thread after it was mentioned and I couldn't find it.

Just reading through now to get up to speed.

 

[Paper Machete]

People who know what to do in such situations aren't typically the ones who are sending their children away to boarding schools. You ideally want to be "overseeing" things so to speak up until they're adults themselves and still then providing counsel. That is the natural way and that that has been interrupted is why so many kids transitioning (lol) into adulthood flounder. You need to be there to have conversations with them, to teach them not just what values to have, but why. They can test those values themselves on their own of course, but if things have gone right, they should hold. Bad eggs not withstanding.

The conversation would probably start something with something like, "who go to you?", though.

I think a lot of parents are still just so ignorant to the amount of bullshit children are introduced to through constant tech/internet use, pop culture being rotten through, and schools being infested with "activists" and other shit heads that have had, ahem, improper rearing. What do you do when they come home a troon? That's a difficult answer to give concisely because it's a whole domino effect of things that have been allowed when they shouldn't have. Just my two cents.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

Posting this here because I have no clue where else to go.

My little brother, my heart and soul, told me today he’s trooning out. I’ve known he was faggy for years and he never told me, mainly because he’s a retard and can’t hide anything to save his life, but I just knew something was off this time.

I have failed. I am angry. Angrier than I have ever been in my life. Every last one of these discord using, brainwashing, faggot zoomers will feel no fucking mercy from me. I swear on every last strand of DNA through my fucking body I will make every and any tranny faggot feel my goddamn anger and wrath so help me fucking god.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

I’m very sorry you’re going through this but I don’t see how YOU personally, have failed. Even if you were responsible for bringing him up from a young age, friend groups tend to become more important than family as sources of influence as children grow.

Only advice I have is to try keeping the lines of communication open while being honest with him.

And look after yourself.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

These fucking pedophile faggots raped my brothers mind with their faggot propaganda

Kill every last groomer on planet earth. Bleed them out.

 

[Night Terrorist]

An old friend I hadn't heard from in a while messaged me out of the blue a while ago. Last I heard of him, before our little friend group drifted apart for non-tranny reasons, was that he'd been dumped by his girlfriend who he absolutely adored. At that time, he was very masculine! He liked cars, beer, he had a strange affinity for pirates. We used to play Dota together a fair amount. He had these big mutton chops he was immensely proud of. He was big and burly with a beer gut. But his girlfriend leaving him emotionally devastated him, and I knew this, but I was dealing with my own life problems and I really didn't reach out to him as often as I should've. So I feel guilty, like I could've stopped it if I tried harder.

I immediately called him by his name and asked what he was up to nowadays (I'm pretty bad at keeping up with people). Nope, that's not his name. I don't remember what his new name is (mercifully I don't think it was his ex's name) and the first thing he said to me after correcting me was making me play 20 questions with one of his fetishes. When I didn't get it, he somewhat irritably admitted it was getting wedgies. So that was a fun conversation. I'm not sure if he fell in with a bad crowd or if he's skinwalking as his ex, but either way he's now LARPing as an uwu soft anime girl despite being this absolute musclegut beast of a man. It's incredibly depressing.

Also I think one of my exes is gonna poon out. To that I say lol, lmao, xD.

 

[FedPostalService]

An old friend I hadn't heard from in a while messaged me out of the blue a while ago. Last I heard of him, before our little friend group drifted apart for non-tranny reasons, was that he'd been dumped by his girlfriend who he absolutely adored. At that time, he was very masculine! He liked cars, beer, he had a strange affinity for pirates. We used to play Dota together a fair amount. He had these big mutton chops he was immensely proud of. He was big and burly with a beer gut. But his girlfriend leaving him emotionally devastated him, and I knew this, but I was dealing with my own life problems and I really didn't reach out to him as often as I should've. So I feel guilty, like I could've stopped it if I tried harder.

I immediately called him by his name and asked what he was up to nowadays (I'm pretty bad at keeping up with people). Nope, that's not his name. I don't remember what his new name is (mercifully I don't think it was his ex's name) and the first thing he said to me after correcting me was making me play 20 questions with one of his fetishes. When I didn't get it, he somewhat irritably admitted it was getting wedgies. So that was a fun conversation. I'm not sure if he fell in with a bad crowd or if he's skinwalking as his ex, but either way he's now LARPing as an uwu soft anime girl despite being this absolute musclegut beast of a man. It's incredibly depressing.

Also I think one of my exes is gonna poon out. To that I say lol, lmao, xD.

So is going to be a “lesbian” or is this a weird cope for him coming out as gay?

I know it’s a meme but men would have so many fewer weird problems if they just went the gym and lifted some weights,

 

[Night Terrorist]

So is going to be a “lesbian” or is this a weird cope for him coming out as gay?

Definitely a dyke. He worships the ground girls walk on. He's one of those weirdos who put women on a pedestal.
I've got my eye on my current squeeze too. She's always been a bit funny about her gender and dislikes the feminine aspects of her body. I'm not aggressive with it, but I do send her funny anti-tranny memes and she always gets a chuckle out of them. I emphasise her beauty and femininity when I can. She still reflexively refers to herself as female and doesn't complain if I do the same. I think it'll be okay.

 

[nemesis 780]

An old friend I hadn't heard from in a while messaged me out of the blue a while ago. Last I heard of him, before our little friend group drifted apart for non-tranny reasons, was that he'd been dumped by his girlfriend who he absolutely adored. At that time, he was very masculine! He liked cars, beer, he had a strange affinity for pirates. We used to play Dota together a fair amount. He had these big mutton chops he was immensely proud of. He was big and burly with a beer gut. But his girlfriend leaving him emotionally devastated him, and I knew this, but I was dealing with my own life problems and I really didn't reach out to him as often as I should've. So I feel guilty, like I could've stopped it if I tried harder.

I immediately called him by his name and asked what he was up to nowadays (I'm pretty bad at keeping up with people). Nope, that's not his name. I don't remember what his new name is (mercifully I don't think it was his ex's name) and the first thing he said to me after correcting me was making me play 20 questions with one of his fetishes. When I didn't get it, he somewhat irritably admitted it was getting wedgies. So that was a fun conversation. I'm not sure if he fell in with a bad crowd or if he's skinwalking as his ex, but either way he's now LARPing as an uwu soft anime girl despite being this absolute musclegut beast of a man. It's incredibly depressing.

Also I think one of my exes is gonna poon out. To that I say lol, lmao, xD.

give her a couple of years and then she'll succeed in transition

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

the first thing he said to me after correcting me was making me play 20 questions with one of his fetishes. When I didn't get it, he somewhat irritably admitted it was getting wedgies.

What the actual fuck.

Maybe we really do need to bring bullying back.

 

[Phil's Oddly Shaped Head]

An old friend I hadn't heard from in a while messaged me out of the blue a while ago. Last I heard of him, before our little friend group drifted apart for non-tranny reasons, was that he'd been dumped by his girlfriend who he absolutely adored. At that time, he was very masculine! He liked cars, beer, he had a strange affinity for pirates. We used to play Dota together a fair amount. He had these big mutton chops he was immensely proud of. He was big and burly with a beer gut. But his girlfriend leaving him emotionally devastated him, and I knew this, but I was dealing with my own life problems and I really didn't reach out to him as often as I should've. So I feel guilty, like I could've stopped it if I tried harder.

I immediately called him by his name and asked what he was up to nowadays (I'm pretty bad at keeping up with people). Nope, that's not his name. I don't remember what his new name is (mercifully I don't think it was his ex's name) and the first thing he said to me after correcting me was making me play 20 questions with one of his fetishes. When I didn't get it, he somewhat irritably admitted it was getting wedgies. So that was a fun conversation. I'm not sure if he fell in with a bad crowd or if he's skinwalking as his ex, but either way he's now LARPing as an uwu soft anime girl despite being this absolute musclegut beast of a man. It's incredibly depressing.

Also I think one of my exes is gonna poon out. To that I say lol, lmao, xD.

Big burly Hawaiian shirt nerd trying to hide a boner under his big belly while your other desperate little twink friend relates yet another horrific story of getting wedgied and dunked in a toilet by the popular kids