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who is the REAL lolcow?

  • Wizards of the Coast

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  • The Cosplayer

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  • Rudy

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Robotron said:
Honestly wondering how long it's gonna be until all this banning stuff comes back to bite Wizards of the coast in the ass.
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Very true.

Those who say that there isn't going to be a full-on Autism Holy War-level incident in MTG are correct, but not for why they might think. Magic is a very focused hobby, and because of this, WotC has a huge amount of control over official events, to the level where they can literally force people out of local tournaments via giving them DCI bans. Them doing shit like this over stupid shit in the past has always been a point of contention, but with the recent wave we've seen, they aren't even trying to hide it how openly fucking corrupt they are being about it.

Good luck trying to maintain the business of the actual hobbyists when you're treating them with giggling fucking contempt.

See, the MTG spergs know that there's only one way they can ever stop this shit in the industry, and that's by fist-fucking WotC in the wallet. Thankfully, WotC has cheerfully obliged them with the perfect time and chance: Sales have been down for years, and we're now at the point where DCI Judges and WotC employees are unironically calling for their critics to face additional bannings and targetted harassment campaigns for shit that has nothing to do with the hobby - and pissing off their fans going into the Christmas season.

This is a time, lest nobody be picking up on this, when WotC sells about 80% of their sales for the fucking year.

There's already a lot of evidence that players of MTGO are increasingly cashing in their cards and fucking off, since WOTC has made absolutely clear that if it thinks you're guilty, you can have your collection confiscated. WotC is going to lose money this year, more so, probably, than they have the previous few, and they're only going to have the stupid ideologically-driven chucklefucks in their staff to blame.
 
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Skyclaw said:
Woah woah woah, WotC can take a players collection if they want to?

How the fuck is that even legal?
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It might be a weird way of phrasing it, but they can close a player's Magic Online account which makes all the cards and tickets they own there go poof. It's comparable because, unless things changed, WotC charges about as much for digital cards as they do for physical ones and the game has no F2P aspects (though you can go infinite via tournaments).
 
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Skyclaw said:
Woah woah woah, WotC can take a players collection if they want to?

How the fuck is that even legal?
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Something to do with Digital sales with magic online. Even though the terms of service would never stand up in court the amounts the collection are worth are much less than the legal costs perusing it.
 
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Skyclaw said:
Woah woah woah, WotC can take a players collection if they want to?

How the fuck is that even legal?
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In Magic: The Gathering Online, yes.

MTGO's digital cards have real-world cash value and can be bought, sold, or traded the same as real-world goods. From a purely methodological standpoint, the argument can be made that as the service-owner, they have the right to ban anyone they want from their platform for any reason, potentially in pursuance of their EULA.

Unfortunately, this hits sort of a snag when one realizes that at this point, WotC is issuing bans for shit that has nothing to do with MTG and its community, and has included shit like private facebook and twitter postings and fucking memes. You don't even get a chance to appeal. Just one ruling and bam, you lose everything tied to your MTGO account. There's an old meme that Codes of Conduct implemented by Social Justice types are always the first step towards purging the nonbelievers, and incidents like this one really nicely get across why people think that.

So small wonder why a lot of them chose to cash out and fuck off in response to this. Again, feel how you want about how fucking spergy individuals within MTG's consumerbase are - you'll be right - but at this point there's fucking DCI Judges (read: tournament officials who work as go-betweens for WotC) calling for sustained, off-site offensives against wrongthinkers, with Unsleeved simply being the most obvious example. If they did this to one noisome sperg using evidence that multiple critics of his, including said aforementioned fucking people associated with WotC, were infinitely more guilty of, then they can do this to fucking anyone, and all evidence is that they're planning to ban additional people who've broken no rules, but they just don't like.
 
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Intelligent Calcium said:
It might be a weird way of phrasing it, but they can close a player's Magic Online account which makes all the cards and tickets they own there go poof. It's comparable because, unless things changed, WotC charges about as much for digital cards as they do for physical ones and the game has no F2P aspects (though you can go infinite via tournaments).
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If you buy directly from the only e store. They do have trades and even separate sites established to get the exact singles you need. Tickets are around .95-.98. WotC also established "Play Points" which effectivey slow down someone from going infinite. It's funny money that can't be traded, bought, or sold and is issued as prize support.
 
Haramburger said:
Jeremy chimed in on this amusing nugget:
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"Trans Woman"

WHAT A SHOCKER SOMEONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE TRANS WHO STIRS SHIT, WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?
 
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Jaimas said:
In Magic: The Gathering Online, yes.

MTGO's digital cards have real-world cash value and can be bought, sold, or traded the same as real-world goods. From a purely methodological standpoint, the argument can be made that as the service-owner, they have the right to ban anyone they want from their platform for any reason, potentially in pursuance of their EULA.

Unfortunately, this hits sort of a snag when one realizes that at this point, WotC is issuing bans for shit that has nothing to do with MTG and its community, and has included shit like private facebook and twitter postings and fucking memes. You don't even get a chance to appeal. Just one ruling and bam, you lose everything tied to your MTGO account. There's an old meme that Codes of Conduct implemented by Social Justice types are always the first step towards purging the nonbelievers, and incidents like this one really nicely get across why people think that.

So small wonder why a lot of them chose to cash out and fuck off in response to this. Again, feel how you want about how fucking spergy individuals within MTG's consumerbase are - you'll be right - but at this point there's fucking DCI Judges (read: tournament officials who work as go-betweens for WotC) calling for sustained, off-site offensives against wrongthinkers, with Unsleeved simply being the most obvious example. If they did this to one noisome sperg using evidence that multiple critics of his, including said aforementioned fucking people associated with WotC, were infinitely more guilty of, then they can do this to fucking anyone, and all evidence is that they're planning to ban additional people who've broken no rules, but they just don't like.
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Intelligent Calcium said:
It might be a weird way of phrasing it, but they can close a player's Magic Online account which makes all the cards and tickets they own there go poof. It's comparable because, unless things changed, WotC charges about as much for digital cards as they do for physical ones and the game has no F2P aspects (though you can go infinite via tournaments).
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Inquisitor_BadAss said:
Something to do with Digital sales with magic online. Even though the terms of service would never stand up in court the amounts the collection are worth are much less than the legal costs perusing it.
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Ah i see they can take the Online cards..

I was thinking they would barge into your home and take your physical cards.
 
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For some more ideas of scale on how all this shit in MTG has been long in coming, here is a relatively recent example of a controversy.

This card art caused a huge public outcry because it shows a impending violence against a woman. It got pulled from circulation is my understanding.
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Even as someone who only knows very little about magic. I know that this is fucking vanilla by MTG standards.

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MTG is just another victim of the SJW crisis fad that must have our fictional/fantasy games be more "realistic" and to treat women, or people who think they are a woman in anyway, more special-er than men others.

Anyway, some extremists on the opposite side are messaging WotC stating they are boycotting MTG because of WotC's blatant favoritism towards SJW-like behavior:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re..._aware_people_are_calling_lgss_and_asking_if/
 
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can someone explain to me why people buy cards instead of just downloading the art and printing out their own copies

I've never played but I've seen the torrents around
 
Boones Farm Strawberry said:
can someone explain to me why people buy cards instead of just downloading the art and printing out their own copies

I've never played but I've seen the torrents around
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Proxies are a thing, but I don't know if you can legally compete with those.
 
SuperSheep said:
Proxies are a thing, but I don't know if you can legally compete with those.
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well I mean if you're just playing casually with buddies which I assume the vast majority of the player base

like most people I know play cards from time to time but I dont know anyone who's competed in an organized tournament or anything
 
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Boones Farm Strawberry said:
can someone explain to me why people buy cards instead of just downloading the art and printing out their own copies

I've never played but I've seen the torrents around
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Basically you can't use copies in any official event. People do use them all the time in deckbuilding tests or farting about with friends, though.

Interestingly, two of the most common programs used to play magic online, Apprentice and Cockatrice, were 100% free and both are still in use to varying degrees. WotC had both shut down in official capacities (neither is being supported actively anymore) to get MTGO off the ground, so they basically own any capacity for playing the game officially.

It really was just a matter of time before some shithead or another abused it.
 
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