Magic The Gathering Cosplay/Deplatforming Fallout - Magic has certainly gathered. Grab your popcorn.

[CrunkLord420]

Troon-looking individual defending Jeremy.

 

[Haramburger]

well I mean if you're just playing casually with buddies which I assume the vast majority of the player base

like most people I know play cards from time to time but I dont know anyone who's competed in an organized tournament or anything

The gameplay, trading & real money market elements are closely intertwined. If making passable proxy cards yourself, you would probably print them on normal paper at home, cut them to closely match a physical card, tape it to a valueless common card, and put the thing in a card sleeve, one card at a time, until you've got a whole deck. It's a lot of work, and most people would rather just own the actual card because the card stores trading in singles are so prolific.

Even if I did make a whole proxy deck, there's a shame element to not owning the actual card in at least one copy; generally if you use a Power Nine card like a Mox Jet, everyone is usually happy to let you use a proxy in your deck if you show you own the card, so that it's value isn't lost in bad shuffling or mishandling in actual play(its worth $1400), but people are generally less flexible for cheaper cards. Nobody wants to appear as a potential cheat or scumbag in trading, and owning proxies for anything less than Power Nine is usually a bad sign that you might be trying to profit off of counterfeits.

The chinese have been buying older plates for printing cards and have learned to fake the original card stock and style pretty well. You can buy good professional proxies onlilne, but then you're still spending money to play a game, just slightly less. It comes down to a personal, card-by-card evaluation of "is it worth proxying this, or should I just get the real thing and enjoy the ability to trade with it later if I want?"

Ultimately there's nothing wrong with faking cards for casual play(99% of players do not play or compete in pro events where you would ever get busted for fakes) but the playerbase & it's culture has card integrity sort of baked in from the beginning.

 

[Your Uncle]

The chinese have been buying older plates for printing cards and have learned to fake the original card stock and style pretty well. You can buy good professional proxies onlilne, but then you're still spending money to play a game, just slightly less.

Leave it to the chinese to come up with a high quality black market counterfeit nerd cards business model.

 

[Alex's Waifu]

[stuff about proxies and players...]

What many people in the community state, "It's a trading card game." Implying the game would mean nothing if it had no monitary value.

Many would disagree about the "kids game" statements, since most are older than 20. Also, it's really complicated compared to things like Pokemon.

 

[omori]

Who tf cosplays MtG?

 

[Jaimas]

You know who WotC appointed as their representative this year at PAX?

Chris "Rape Apologist" Kluwe.

You know, the guy we have a fucking thread on, and appeared in the fucking CON Log Leaks a bunch white knighting Zoe Quinn and friends.

I swear to god, the longer you look at something infested by Social Justice, the more likely it is the old tumors start to surface.

 

[Test Business]

WotC didn't have a presence at PAX Aus this year. They did run some stuff in the diversity lounge though. :/

 

[Haramburger]

WotC didn't have a presence at PAX Aus this year. They did run some stuff in the diversity lounge though. :/

are you speaking as an attendee? What do they normally do, offer boxes and figures for sale, run tournament events there, or just give away collectible pins?

 

[Test Business]

are you speaking as an attendee? What do they normally do, offer boxes and figures for sale, run tournament events there, or just give away collectible pins?

In previous years MtG has had a huge presence at the show, here is a shot of their booth from 2016:

Spoiler: MtG Booth 2016

This was at the entrance to the tabletop area. They ran demo games here for people who had never played before, tablets demoing the digital version, a photo booth and I forget what else. There was a checklist and if you did all the stuff (like play a demo session) you got some freebie shit. Y'know, average con promotional stuff. They didn't sell product but had partnered with booths of nearby vendors. It really dominated the area.

This year they didn't have an official presence at all. This year looking at the schedule the only Magic The Gathering stuff was in the diversity lounge:

http://aus.paxsite.com/schedule?search=magic+the+gathering#

This didn't bother me as my MtG days are well behind me but a few friends who had never played were keen to try this year but instead ended up playing the Dragonball card game. Wizards loss I guess.

 

[captkrisma]

Looks to me like they mainly ran open play in the diversity lounge. Have fun racking up a whopping 1 plainswalker point (those are used to earn byes in Grand Prixs. You need a lot in order to get just one, and you earn more based on how many people you play against and what the event is).

 

[Jaimas]

Looks to me like they mainly ran open play in the diversity lounge. Have fun racking up a whopping 1 plainswalker point (those are used to earn byes in Grand Prixs. You need a lot in order to get just one, and you earn more based on how many people you play against and what the event is).

So the diversity lounge is basically worthless?

Wow, it's just like real life.

 

[Test Business]

At PAX Aus (and I assume the others) they do a little scavenger hunt with QR codes scattered around the con. Scanning into the convention app reveals a picture as you go and if you complete it there is usually a giveaway of some branded piece of crap. Pretty inane exercise but a good way to get the lay of everything as you find them all scattered around on the first day. They always put one near the diversity lounge but never have the balls to put one in there. Every year though looking through the door it is filled with all of the people you'd expect to be in one. Not a normal hair colour in sight.

 

[DragoonSierra]

I wonder if I should sell my old cards. Ive got a copy of Earthcraft which I see is going to a good chunk of cash. I even still have my first edition base set of Pokemon cards.

I know this is only a tangent to the Jeremy/Unsleeved Media salt, but I figure this is the best place for it:
Travis Woo, former ChannelFireball contributor turned MTG YouTuber since his firing over discussing Holocaust denial with his stream chat, put out a couple of videos in response to this bit of drama.
The first, in which he compares the drama to the French Revolution:

The second, where he more directly tries to call for WotC to make a statement on dogpiling and harassment:

Recently, though, a tranny that writes for StarCityGames posted an archive of screenshots of a private shitposting group that Travis created on Facebook where the users drafted women in the Magic community based on their bangability:
https://twitter.com/Em_TeeGee/status/935620592161771520

There's one image I can't post because of the embed limit but I think you guys get the point.

Bottom middle and bottom left.

It's an attempt to get an in-roads into the hobby, fandom and customer-base be damned. These are people who, fucking 100% of the time, are not fans, do not care about the game in question, its lore, or authorial intent. They care about getting one more platform to virtue signal from. If they can get WOTC to capitulate to their demands (already happening), they will try to get more, and then still more. It will not end until the infestation is successfully fought off by the customer-base, or the infestation does to MTG what similar shitheads did to Marvel comics.

Nothing is sacred.
Even 40K is facing attempts by these shitheads.

They've already successfully taken over the main MTG subreddit, by the way; people are being permabanned for wrongthink already.

Can I point you to some Lizardman x Amazon porn to make you feel better?

 

[Racist Trash]

He's been mentioned before in this thread but if you want someone who generates MTG salt and is entertaining check out Rudy at Alpha investments, the moderators at the MTG reddit ban people for just mentioning his name and people there are autistic enough to think his videos are 100% serious. Right now he is burning down WoTC by releasing their shipping numbers to fuck with them because of how incompetent they are.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Thank god Yu Gi Oh is filled with Weebs compared to SJWs

 

[Jaimas]

Thank god Yu Gi Oh is filled with Weebs compared to SJWs

Yu-Gi-Oh has its SJWs, but they're really not up to fighting the sheer Weeb-tism of the YGO fanbase.

With Magic increasingly driving fans off, a lot of the expats are winding up there too.

 

[Keystone]

Breitbart just made an article about this 'tism storm.
(http://archive.is/3dopy)

 

[Test Business]

He's been mentioned before in this thread but if you want someone who generates MTG salt and is entertaining check out Rudy at Alpha investments, the moderators at the MTG reddit ban people for just mentioning his name and people there are autistic enough to think his videos are 100% serious. Right now he is burning down WoTC by releasing their shipping numbers to fuck with them because of how incompetent they are.

Rudy is great, I love watching people lose their shit over him in comment sections.

 

[CrunkLord420]

He's been mentioned before in this thread but if you want someone who generates MTG salt and is entertaining check out Rudy at Alpha investments, the moderators at the MTG reddit ban people for just mentioning his name and people there are autistic enough to think his videos are 100% serious. Right now he is burning down WoTC by releasing their shipping numbers to fuck with them because of how incompetent they are.

I love what Rudy's doing with these order numbers, I wish I could find some salt on them. Even /r/mtgfinance doesn't mention him, which is hilarious since they're supposed to be talking about the market, right? He's effectively one of the biggest (public) whales in the market and yet it's wrongthink to mention him.

fftopic: I watch Rudy religiously and I don't even play Magic. I try to relate what he says to cryptocurrency since it's also an unregulated market.

 

[captkrisma]

Breitbart just made an article about this 'tism storm.
(http://archive.is/3dopy)

And someone went through paragraph by paragraph to pick apart the piece on r/MagicTCG.

I'd link it, but it is actual pure :autism:, and I don't want to be responsible for the spread of cancer.

Spoiler: Fine...you poor bastards

https://medium.com/@chasandres/sexi...ing-breitbarts-magicgate-article-5d79a8a206e8