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Man, I got my Saiga 7.62 NIB for $400... And then spent around $200 or so on parts to convert it to pistol grip.
Probably my best unintentional gun purchase ever. I feel like a guy who bought a full auto MAC-10 in 1981 for $400 (well, they haven't gone up THAT much...)
You know it feels like bizarro world thinking to the late 2000's when ar and ak prices were polar opposites, back then the only cheap ar's around were the polymer lower DPMS' or was it Bushmaster can't remember and Century was practically giving away wasr's. Nowadays one can get a total package M&P AR with half a dozen mags and maybe a Sig optic and case for 700-ish and the nice decent AK's are hovering around a grand.
 
the 92 has an aluminum alloy frame almost since inception. the Vertec framed pistols (92X, et c) and specific models like the Billenium, Centennial, and 92 FS Fusion are steel framed, and Wilson Combat used to make a steel frame 92G as well. Also, all the "inox" Beretta's are steel framed.
As an owner of a 92FS Inox I can most assuredly tell you that it has the same aluminum 92FS frame as any other 92FS, just with incredibly shitty silver paint on it (Beretta had a run of 92FS Inox pisols in the mid '00s that had a really shitty finish, mine is one of them, you can scratch off the frame paint with your fingernail...) I'll probably re-finish it one of these days after I have Tool Tech replace the tritium vial in the drilled out front sight post. (I had it long enough to actually dim).
 
Not at all. An AR platform rifle (unless it's something silly like a Nemo Arms OMEN) is easier to deploy effectively against an opponent and they hold a lot more ammo. Shotguns are still damn deadly in the hands of a skilled operator so don't automatically discount them even if you have both weapon platforms available. Because I've seen firsthand what shotguns can do to people I confidently say they're not obsolete.

Doing this with earpro and either a shotgun or a short-barreled rifle still teaches the lesson. No need to get early onset tinnitus.

I'm not trying to be pedantic but this is not automatically true. Shot placement matters most of all with any firearm. I've worked plenty of trauma surgeries where patients had limbs almost amputated, bowels actually coming out of a huge hole in their bellies, heads basically fucking destroyed thanks to shotguns that we had no massive problems keeping alive.

People that came to the ER with upper torso rifle or shotgun wounds almost never make it to the O.R. and if they do, they don't last long.
I've heard some old doctors say the same thing to young doctors who are flabbergasted by the rise in gunshot wound victims coming into the ER, thinking that there is a rise in gun violence or in effectiveness of new rounds. They basically said that the reason they see so many people come in now is because in the old days, people would get shot with something or with so many rounds that guaranteed they never even made it to the ER.

Being in Florida, I recommend Miami Tiger Stripe.
We all know the most based choice is old school Belgian jigsaw. Look like a Far Cry enemy NPC.
As an aside, I got a pair of OG issue. I was hesitant about the actual application for camo with the bright reds and yellows. But in an old dandelion field surrounded with red dirt and old brick farmhouses, I am blown away by how effective they are.
 
You know it feels like bizarro world thinking to the late 2000's when ar and ak prices were polar opposites, back then the only cheap ar's around were the polymer lower DPMS' or was it Bushmaster can't remember and Century was practically giving away wasr's. Nowadays one can get a total package M&P AR with half a dozen mags and maybe a Sig optic and case for 700-ish and the nice decent AK's are hovering around a grand.
I bought a Rock River Arms midlength fixed stock carbine for like $1200 at the time and it was "a good deal" lmao. Sold the upper many moons ago and now the lower sits under an Aero enhanced M4 upper with integrated pic rail.
 
As an aside, I got a pair of OG issue. I was hesitant about the actual application for camo with the bright reds and yellows. But in an old dandelion field surrounded with red dirt and old brick farmhouses, I am blown away by how effective they are.
I've got a Swiss Alpenflage poncho that looks very goofy at all times except in the fall when it blends in perfectly.

Speaking of camo, why isn't ATACS iX more popular? Seems to be rather effective, like a more subdued tiger stripe.
 
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Are there special permits I can qualify for to get 5.56 in AP?

Like if a bunch of ANTIFA supersoldiers fed the highest quality of soy and niggerdick decide to strap on IV and storm the gates of my Fortified Swamp, I want to gun them down.
My nigga, if you're that concerned, just get a rifle in .308/ 7.62x51 NATO. With an 18" barrel it should fly through plates well enough at social contact range, who gives a fuck if you can't get through past 50 yards in one shot, you're not shooting plate wearing assailants over 50 yards away unless you're the Military, or shooting at the Military, and if you're shooting at the Military, busting through Level IV plate is the least of your concerns.
 
One benefit of shotguns over rifles is that in high stress situations, such as a home invasion, when the adrenaline dumps and your fine motor skills and aim go to shit, it won't be quite as detrimental with a shotgun than it would with a pistol or rifle.
One question. I've heard this a lot, and I don't know if it's an urban myth or not. Whenever I found myself in high stress situations, I would not lose my motor skills and become a tweaking Parkinson patient. I was super calm, and in fact ultra focused. After the thing happened, I could feel the adrenaline hit very clearly and my heart pumping much, much faster, but nothing like a hands shaking panic attack. I don't think I have ice-cold water running through my veins, it's just focus.

I think that if you are going to be owning a gun, you can't have your aim go to shit, especially in life or death situations. Perhaps if that happens to a person, he/she should train, so the adrenaline doesn't cripple your skills.
 
Speaking of surplus, I rescued a sporterized Polish M44 Mosin in exchange for two tanks of gasoline and a bottle of vodka. No bayonet lug, mangled wood, but good bore. Got a lot of 7.62x54R to go through so I need a shooter Mosin instead of running it through my nice pre-WW2 91/30 Mosin.

May be a good base for a cursed Mosin build. Put it in an aftermarket stock or a new M44/M38 stock. Maybe add an optic, got a spare side rail and Molot optics mount laying around. It has no historical value and it's already been modified, so may as well go to town on it.
I have a Remington Mosin Nagant that some moron sportorized, drilled and taped for a scope then shot corrosive ammo without cleaning it. I also bought a Chang Chai Shek banner mauser (one of 20,000 made at the mauser factory for the chinese army) that someone sporterized and scoped. It was a shame to see such a beautiful guns destroyed.

I did sporterized my cheap type 53s (they were trashed up beaters when I got them) I got from Omega Weapon Systems for $35 each. During the 2020 riots they made really nice loaner guns to unarmed neighbors and family members who all of the sudden decided that they needed a gun.
 
One question. I've heard this a lot, and I don't know if it's an urban myth or not. Whenever I found myself in high stress situations, I would not lose my motor skills and become a tweaking Parkinson patient. I was super calm, and in fact ultra focused. After the thing happened, I could feel the adrenaline hit very clearly and my heart pumping much, much faster, but nothing like a hands shaking panic attack. I don't think I have ice-cold water running through my veins, it's just focus.

I think that if you are going to be owning a gun, you can't have your aim go to shit, especially in life or death situations. Perhaps if that happens to a person, he/she should train, so the adrenaline doesn't cripple your skills.
It depends on the person. Some people can deal with high stress situations well without any training or with minimal training, but some people still can't do anything even after repeated training. Everyone is wired differently.

I have a Remington Mosin Nagant that some moron sportorized, drilled and taped for a scope then shot corrosive ammo without cleaning it. I also bought a Chang Chai Shek banner mauser (one of 20,000 made at the mauser factory for the chinese army) that someone sporterized and scoped. It was a shame to see such a beautiful guns destroyed.

I did sporterized my cheap type 53s (they were trashed up beaters when I got them) I got from Omega Weapon Systems for $35 each. During the 2020 riots they made really nice loaner guns to unarmed neighbors and family members who all of the sudden decided that they needed a gun.
Too bad about the Rem Mosin, those are nice and have some history to them.
 
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What's a good website to buy real surplus and/also antique surplus?
Gunbroker will always be the king of online gun sales. You just need to be careful with who the seller is and make sure they have some kind of seller history to ensure you don’t get scammed if you aren’t buying from legit gun store accounts.
 
I've got a Swiss Alpenflage poncho that looks very goofy at all times except in the fall when it blends in perfectly.

Speaking of camo, why isn't ATACS iX more popular? Seems to be rather effective, like a more subdued tiger stripe.
Fantastic question. Most likely because everyone and their grandma's military has switched to some form of digicam. And it would cost a lot to make the switch, digi works well enough. It's a shame, I really miss the whacky individual Military camo. Every military has some weird form of nanocam now, in ranges of green, beige, brown, and black.
This being said, I still think old school solid color OD is my favorite "camo". Solid colors can be really effective, especially in dense foliage. Since the shadows and patterns that occur on it come from the natural surroundings, you never have to worry about the shadows or movement conflicting with the established pattern on the garment. That, and they natural take on their own natural patterns as you get mud, blood, fading, coffee stains, etc....
Don't remember which channel it is, but he tests out camo patterns by setting the camera up and going and hiding somewhere, then waiting for like 2 minutes and finally moving. It's like grown up Where's Waldo. It may not be fair, since he lives around woods, but I was surprised how easy it was to spot the fancy new digi multicams because of the shadow differences vs just solid color shit like OD.
edit: found him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBq7snxWFY
 
Fantastic question. Most likely because everyone and their grandma's military has switched to some form of digicam. And it would cost a lot to make the switch, digi works well enough. It's a shame, I really miss the whacky individual Military camo. Every military has some weird form of nanocam now, in ranges of green, beige, brown, and black.
This being said, I still think old school solid color OD is my favorite "camo". Solid colors can be really effective, especially in dense foliage. Since the shadows and patterns that occur on it come from the natural surroundings, you never have to worry about the shadows or movement conflicting with the established pattern on the garment. That, and they natural take on their own natural patterns as you get mud, blood, fading, coffee stains, etc....
Yeah, digicam is kind of boring and ends up looking similar. M05 looks like CADPAT looks like EMR, they all blend in too much from a distance.

I do like OD and ranger green, it's neutral enough that from a distance you can blend in with hikers, foragers, etc.

Don't remember which channel it is, but he tests out camo patterns by setting the camera up and going and hiding somewhere, then waiting for like 2 minutes and finally moving. It's like grown up Where's Waldo. It may not be fair, since he lives around woods, but I was surprised how easy it was to spot the fancy new digi multicams because of the shadow differences vs just solid color shit like OD.

edit: found him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBq7snxWFY
Yeah, that's the guy, he's got some interesting patterns to test. ATACS iX blends in really well in a dry environment.
 
Fantastic question. Most likely because everyone and their grandma's military has switched to some form of digicam. And it would cost a lot to make the switch, digi works well enough. It's a shame, I really miss the whacky individual Military camo. Every military has some weird form of nanocam now, in ranges of green, beige, brown, and black.
This being said, I still think old school solid color OD is my favorite "camo". Solid colors can be really effective, especially in dense foliage. Since the shadows and patterns that occur on it come from the natural surroundings, you never have to worry about the shadows or movement conflicting with the established pattern on the garment. That, and they natural take on their own natural patterns as you get mud, blood, fading, coffee stains, etc....
Don't remember which channel it is, but he tests out camo patterns by setting the camera up and going and hiding somewhere, then waiting for like 2 minutes and finally moving. It's like grown up Where's Waldo. It may not be fair, since he lives around woods, but I was surprised how easy it was to spot the fancy new digi multicams because of the shadow differences vs just solid color shit like OD.
edit: found him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBq7snxWFY
I still use old UCP patern stuff. It's well made and right now incredibly cheap (full rucksack for $50, or a combat vest, waist bag, 6 mag pouches, assault pack, canteen for $42 http://ebay.com/itm/355205304600?_t...=264184&meid=df9cffabb3934335a6a72d78ce71865b )

Just dye it green with RIT dye https://youtu.be/qM2VCwQQqSk?si=ysgmDnto8U68XqsR
 
I don't subscribe to the ideas of, "dw about it they won't do that", because if I talk about my guns and they know it can't defeat L4 and they're going to cause problems, they'll get that. Don't forget a lot of these troons are gun spergs or even ex-military. Greta Gustava (TLL) who, because of the forum, is basically disgraced and excommunicado from the cult of trans for the unforgiveable crime of gay sacrilege, is ex-US military and has posted videos of himself shooting to try and scare me.
Since you are apparently going to return to the dead gay nigger country full of retarded dead gay niggers, how do you feel about Wyoming?
Seems like a good choice for your personal safety, given that it's one of the least retarded, gay, or niggerized places.
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Strong on gun rights and self-defense, cheaper real estate than Florida, and factoring in the population density, it's the obvious choice for the lowest amount of deranged troons.
Also Huwhite with a capital H.
 
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Does anybody have any thoughts on the Sig MCX in 5.56? I'm no expert, but it does seem to have some design improvements over the AR-15. Is there any chance of displacement in the civilian market in the coming years. with the MCX 5.56 becoming the go-to semi-modular assault rifle?
It would be nice, but I don't see it. The economy is absolute garbage, inflation is through the roof and basic bitch reliable ar15s (well reliable enough for someone who won't shoot 2k rounds through it and only bought it as shtf security) are $400 or less
 
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Goddammit, I just got blueballed on pistol on GB, bout to go down to the nearest fun shop and pick up a HK45CT instead.
I got a hankerin' for yeeting raccoons around the property Splinter Cell style, and I'm tired of not being able to do that because my other .45's do not have a threaded barrel, and I can justify the HK45C because I already have a HK45 and a handfull of mags.

Anyone know of a reputable smith to do an optics cut on one? I want a lower 1/3 co-witness and you can't really do that with the rear sight style mounts.
 
In Escape from Tarkov lots of players adopt "leg meta" and just blast legs with fast PCC or subs, it still kills kitted players to this day lol
Worked on Ned Kelly. That bulky plate stopped .38 S&W pretty good, but he didn't armor his legs, and that's how the cops got him.
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When will the retarded niggers at Ruger make their Mini 14 accept Pmags.
Was gonna say that they probably wouldn't, because half of the Mini-14's appeal is aesthetics, and having an extension to the magwell hanging out would look ugly, but I'm actually not sure one would be necessary. Not sure if an H&K style setup with both a lever and button could work, to engage with either magazine, but maybe.
Having an AR-15 magazine with its straight-curve-straight profile on a Mini-14 would look weird and awkward though, only 20rd mags would look at all appropriate.
Beyond that, I guess consider a FightLite build.
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This brings to mind the old Ramline Combo Mags, which were advertised as working interchangeably in AR15s, AR180s, and Mini-14s, but in reality barely worked with any of them.
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As an owner of a 92FS Inox I can most assuredly tell you that it has the same aluminum 92FS frame as any other 92FS, just with incredibly shitty silver paint on it (Beretta had a run of 92FS Inox pisols in the mid '00s that had a really shitty finish, mine is one of them, you can scratch off the frame paint with your fingernail...) I'll probably re-finish it one of these days after I have Tool Tech replace the tritium vial in the drilled out front sight post. (I had it long enough to actually dim).
very intersting - i have a 1991 Beretta 92FS that has a stainless steel frame. i knew the US made ones were alloy and rather thinly plated, but didn't know that the later italian inox models were also alloy now. my bad, guess we can take the inox off the list of steel beretta framed pistols. come to think of it i wonder if the PT92 still retains a steel frame in their modern incarnations? i know the PT99 is aluminum alloy.

reputable smith to do an optics cut on one
Ashbury Precision is pretty high up there, even on weird pistols.
 
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One question. I've heard this a lot, and I don't know if it's an urban myth or not. Whenever I found myself in high stress situations, I would not lose my motor skills and become a tweaking Parkinson patient. I was super calm, and in fact ultra focused. After the thing happened, I could feel the adrenaline hit very clearly and my heart pumping much, much faster, but nothing like a hands shaking panic attack. I don't think I have ice-cold water running through my veins, it's just focus.

I think that if you are going to be owning a gun, you can't have your aim go to shit, especially in life or death situations. Perhaps if that happens to a person, he/she should train, so the adrenaline doesn't cripple your skills.

It really depends on the person, and adrenaline can effect the same person different ways in different situations. I also tend to get really calm and focused in high stress situations, but there have been times that the adrenaline has hit me and it gave me tremors. Practice and repetition can help a lot, but it can still effect fine accuracy.
 
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