Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Club Sandwich]

what is the difference between the Springfield Saint Victor and Saint Edge

slightly different mix of OEM parts geared to be better "out of the box" for some customers who might otherwise replace stock parts with aftermarket. the Edge is meant to be a lighter, entry-level competition weapon (lightweight profile barrel, enhanced trigger, et c) while the Victor is more of a patrol carbine with a few fancy options (flat faced trigger, free float handguard, et c).

i would guess a good market would be people that aren't ready to commit their rifle to a specific purpose and want to try something out without having a borderline useless rifle if they decide they don't like the sport or whatever. imagine trying to use a gamer gun as a patrol carbine or a stock patrol carbine in a ricer comp. at least with the Victor and Edge, you can pick either one and feel it out and if you don't like it, the rifle is still generic enough to be fairly adaptable to a wide array of purposes. even though the Edge is meant to compete, it's also a decent backpack gun or target shooter, while the Victor can probably be one or two part swaps away from an okay 3-gun rifle.

 

[White Devil]

I was researching place of manufacture and almost all are manufactured in China or Taiwan. I generally view anything in Taiwan to have better QA than something made in China.

That has been one of the stuff I research online, where was a tool made.

Chinese stuff can have good QA. Holosun is a fine example as much as the nationalist in me hates to admit it. It's really all about the specifications the parent company submits to the factory.

 

[Particle Bored]

Whats so great about flat triggers?

 

[White Devil]

Whats so great about flat triggers?

It's all about tactile response / feel. I have flat triggers on a few rifles and handguns and they're pretty great imo.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Which brands are considered usually the best lowers?

 

[White Devil]

Which brands are considered usually the best lowers?

Aero is considered the best budget lower. I've had good luck with Anderson before but they're very hit or miss. The brand name lowers in this climate are going to go for hundreds of dollars. My GGP was like $290.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Which brands are considered usually the best lowers?

unless you are looking for something with specific features, the vast majority of AR-15 lowers are made by perhaps a half dozen forges for a dozen or so OEM machine shops for others to either finish machine or rebrand. consider determining if you want a particular feature (ambi bolt release, left-handed controls, modified or specialized machine-work, unusual materials, et c) and then from the short list determine who makes them and if you can examine the product for yourself.

if you want a couple companies that you can buy without really thinking about it, i suggest LMT, Seekins Precision, Mega Arms, Aero Precision, Rock River Arms, Stag Arms (i prefer Stag vs RRA, personally), and you should be able to find Windham Weaponry and Colt complete lower assemblies as well.

i want to stress the above is simply a list of ones i stock and have used for years (decades even) that are still around and ready as a stripped lower receiver. many companies also make partially assembled or complete lower assemblies (like Colt or BCM) for sale, specialized lowers for specific purposes (Quarter Circle 10, KE Arms), and then you have rebranded lowers which are perfectly fine (Spike's Tactical, Del-Ton, Palmetto State Armory, et c) but have differences in finish or markings. ultimately if you just want "a lower" to build yourself then there are literally hundreds to choose from.

 

[Dean Pentel]

unless you are looking for something with specific features, the vast majority of AR-15 lowers are made by perhaps a half dozen forges for a dozen or so OEM machine shops for others to either finish machine or rebrand. consider determining if you want a particular feature (ambi bolt release, left-handed controls, modified or specialized machine-work, unusual materials, et c) and then from the short list determine who makes them and if you can examine the product for yourself.

if you want a couple companies that you can buy without really thinking about it, i suggest LMT, Seekins Precision, Mega Arms, Aero Precision, Rock River Arms, Stag Arms (i prefer Stag vs RRA, personally), and you should be able to find Windham Weaponry and Colt complete lower assemblies as well.

i want to stress the above is simply a list of ones i stock and have used for years (decades even) that are still around and ready as a stripped lower receiver. many companies also make partially assembled or complete lower assemblies (like Colt or BCM) for sale, specialized lowers for specific purposes (Quarter Circle 10, KE Arms), and then you have rebranded lowers which are perfectly fine (Spike's Tactical, Del-Ton, Palmetto State Armory, et c) but have differences in finish or markings. ultimately if you just want "a lower" to build yourself then there are literally hundreds to choose from.

BCM >>> Colt, all day, every day. Their Mk 2 is solid...if you can find one.

LMT is also excellent, but be aware that level of quality is not cheap.

Radian is also slick if you want a legit ambi lower. Fucking goddamn expensive and hard to find, though.

 

[White Devil]

unless you are looking for something with specific features, the vast majority of AR-15 lowers are made by perhaps a half dozen forges for a dozen or so OEM machine shops for others to either finish machine or rebrand. consider determining if you want a particular feature (ambi bolt release, left-handed controls, modified or specialized machine-work, unusual materials, et c) and then from the short list determine who makes them and if you can examine the product for yourself.

if you want a couple companies that you can buy without really thinking about it, i suggest LMT, Seekins Precision, Mega Arms, Aero Precision, Rock River Arms, Stag Arms (i prefer Stag vs RRA, personally), and you should be able to find Windham Weaponry and Colt complete lower assemblies as well.

i want to stress the above is simply a list of ones i stock and have used for years (decades even) that are still around and ready as a stripped lower receiver. many companies also make partially assembled or complete lower assemblies (like Colt or BCM) for sale, specialized lowers for specific purposes (Quarter Circle 10, KE Arms), and then you have rebranded lowers which are perfectly fine (Spike's Tactical, Del-Ton, Palmetto State Armory, et c) but have differences in finish or markings. ultimately if you just want "a lower" to build yourself then there are literally hundreds to choose from.

I wish I knew you had LMTs six months ago.

 

[HackerX]

Neat, someone dropped more on a 17 than me. How do you like the elcan? I see used ones for sale somewhat often and it makes me wonder.

I love it TBH. IDK if it's quite worth the price, but working on getting to an outdoor range soon enough to get a better feel.

How does a SCAR compared to a Springfield Armory M1A or their Saint Victor that fires the same cartridge. I believe they all fire the 308 Winchester iirc.

Haven't fired NEARLY as much as I want to. Actually kind of forced myself to start going to the range again just last weekend, and plan on taking it out within a few weeks. Will give you a recent update then, haha.

 

[AGPinochet]

Linked below is an archived version of a very recent ABC new article entitled "Senators push Justice Department to crackdown on illegal gun modifications"

Senators push Justice Department to crack down on illegal gun modific…

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The Article details how how US Senators, Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Senator Cory Booker (D-N.J.) are pushing the Justice Department to take action on the rising trend of Illegally manufactured, imported and possessed machinegun conversion devices.
I have this to say on the article. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH FUCK YOU! AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED! AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA. You will never, EVER get this genie back in the bottle. Hah!

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

How does a SCAR compared to a Springfield Armory M1A or their Saint Victor that fires the same cartridge. I believe they all fire the 308 Winchester iirc.

My 17 shoots better than either of the 2 M1As I had experience with. And for what it cost it should. Recoil impulse is a little violent compared to an M1A. It's entirely controllabe, but I feel it at the end of the day. I rented a giggle switch 17 from a range in the middle of nowhere and I was ammo poor and sore the next day, but it was fun.

 

[MrJokerRager]

BCM >>> Colt, all day, every day. Their Mk 2 is solid...if you can find one.

LMT is also excellent, but be aware that level of quality is not cheap.

Radian is also slick if you want a legit ambi lower. Fucking goddamn expensive and hard to find, though.

I wanted to get a single sided BCM safety but apparently they all sold out, so settled for the Colt version. So far its been good but I want the BCM version to match the ambi charging handle I bought from them.

 

[Spooky Bones]

(Pic not mine)

Does anyone else strongly prefer the the A2 style handguards? I feel like the way I can grasp it even makes me shoot better. Granted I lose out on the ability to put bells and whistles on but all I really want is a flashlight for coyotes or home intruders and I have a little section of picatinny that clamps on to the barrell if I need that. Don't like the "gangster grips" and foregrips of any kind, I feel like the taper of the A2 hg does the job just as well. Won't lie I like the retro aesthetics too. I put a red dot on though but the carry handles are fun too and not bad at all as sights if you spring for a decent one which I did.

 

[AGPinochet]

I have never before seen this photo so I cannot comment on just how recent it is but I know for a fact that it is recent BECAUSE I have never seen it before, without PLing I would know about this photo if it was taken a comparatively long time ago. But this photo is of 6 (Potentially Seized?) FGC-9 MK.II's in Myanmar, with several accompanying (Presumably V2) Menendez Mags. When taking into consideration the three featured in the second image (which was posted on 9/16/21) I would venture a guess that there may be anywhere from 10-100 FGC-9 MK.II's in Myanmar at this time. Note that the guns in the more recent image have longer barrels and all the barrels seem to be made of similar if not the same material. I have nothing indicating the origins of the barrels, whether they are made through ECM in a 5 gallon bucket like you're supposed to DIY them (The FGC-9 MK.I and MK.II are Largely 3D Printed, Largely DIY 9mm PCC's designed by the Late Jstark1809 (RIP) and Ivan The Troll) or if the barrels are Chinese made or if they are made in country, hell they could even be smoothbore if for whatever reason they have decided against rifling the barrels to expedite production, however one must keep in mind that if they obviously have 3D Printers and can thus print the necessary ECM fixtures to rifle barrels cheaply and in a DIY manner.
Archive of a twitter post featuring the second image in case this posts fucks up

Jake Hanrahan on Twitter: "There are claims that these 3D-printed gun…

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EDIT: These are confirmed to have been captured

https://twitter.com/NaviGoBoom/status/1455946253439746053?s=20

https://twitter.com/NaviGoBoom/status/1455946982619598848?s=20

The script reads something like: "From Terrorist Groups in Yangon Documentary photo of captured weapons/ammunition"

 

[Jewthulhu]

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Does anyone else strongly prefer the the A2 style handguards? I feel like the way I can grasp it even makes me shoot better. Granted I lose out on the ability to put bells and whistles on but all I really want is a flashlight for coyotes or home intruders and I have a little section of picatinny that clamps on to the barrell if I need that. Don't like the "gangster grips" and foregrips of any kind, I feel like the taper of the A2 hg does the job just as well. Won't lie I like the retro aesthetics too.

Just built a full A2 replica actually. Haven't got to shoot it yet (hopefully going to hit the range with my brother within the next week) but holding the gun feels nice and natural to me.

It might be because Battlefield 2 was my first FPS but I'm obsessed with the aesthetics of the Gulf War equipment, even if some of the design decisions for the A2 were behind the times (optics were becoming standard by then and the polymer used in the buttstock was apparently questionable).

 

[MrJokerRager]

Just built a full A2 replica actually. Haven't got to shoot it yet (hopefully going to hit the range with my brother within the next week) but holding the gun feels nice and natural to me.

It might be because Battlefield 2 was my first FPS but I'm obsessed with the aesthetics of the Gulf War equipment, even if some of the design decisions for the A2 were behind the times (optics were becoming standard by then and the polymer used in the buttstock was apparently questionable).
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Brownells was having a sale on Colt stuff last month.

Only thing I bought was a single sided safety though they still selling like the M15A4 stock and buffer tube and other stuff related to Colts lol.

I am debating if to buy the safety detent and spring as well to complete the Colt Safety Selector experience.

They sold out on the Carry Handle though so unable to complete the look.

 

[Spooky Bones]

Just built a full A2 replica actually. Haven't got to shoot it yet (hopefully going to hit the range with my brother within the next week) but holding the gun feels nice and natural to me.

It might be because Battlefield 2 was my first FPS but I'm obsessed with the aesthetics of the Gulf War equipment, even if some of the design decisions for the A2 were behind the times (optics were becoming standard by then and the polymer used in the buttstock was apparently questionable).
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That's a beauty. I see you have a real A2 type lower not just a carry handle that goes on a rail. Love the look!



This is the last one I built, nothing specially really, a beater rifle basically and kind of a mongrel with different stuff from different eras but she's a good shooter and I like her. You can see the flashlight here. If you want to get one of these clamps to put some pic rail on the barrel be careful a lot of them are bad quality and/or are just for shotguns (I have one on my mossberg) but claim to fit rifles too. This is the one I'm using here, it's the slightly higher end of cheap Chinese shit but works just fine for me. I had to go through ordering a couple different ones before finding anything that was any good.

 

[MrJokerRager]

That's a beauty. I see you have a real A2 type lower not just a carry handle that goes on a rail. Love the look!

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This is the last one I built, nothing specially really, a beater rifle basically and kind of a mongrel with different stuff from different eras but she's a good shooter and I like her. You can see the flashlight here. If you want to get one of these clamps be careful a lot of them are bad quality and/or are just for shotguns (I have one on my mossberg) but claim to fit rifles too. This is the one I'm using here, cheap Chinese shit but works just fine for me.

So how did folks attach flashlights or those dual laser light combos to this type of handguard or I am confusing them with the picatinny rail with those rail covers added on.

 

[Spooky Bones]

So how did folks attach flashlights or those dual laser light combos to this type of handguard or I am confusing them with the picatinny rail with those rail covers added on.

Something like this is what I was talking about, it clamps down on the barrel and I put it right next to the bayonet lug for some extra stability. It's held up fine for a couple hundred rounds so far at least. Theoretically its probably not the best thing for accuracy but I'm not doing that teir of shooting with this rifle anyway