Mega Rad Gun Thread

[HumptiDouji]

I finally got myself a lever gat. Rossi 92 in 45lc

Based and lever-pilled. I've heard that Rossi rifles are a bit gritty feeling, but that you can easily DIY improve them.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

I am not sure if it will, we had trouble running Fiochi out of it but that was most likely the magazine being filthy causing the follower not to fully feed the round, or the gun itself not being as clean as it should have been despite me telling him to clean and oil it before we shot.
We also ran a box of Herters and those didn't give us trouble once despite me expecting them to be the worse of the two.
Thanks for the input at least never used magtech myself but the cost isn't bad

If the Herters is less then 3 years old it’s just Winchester white box with a different head stamp. Winchester has the contract to make all of the herters brand ammo.

Paul has a new video out and it’s a good one. It goes into why HP fail. He hits all the common reason and the only thing I would comment on is that a lot of older designs, especially that are pre 1990s were designed with water as the expansion medium. This was due to to a lack of research into the subject. The main impetus for change was Miami Dade. By the late 90s almost everyone had moved to FBI gelatin as a medium for testing. Ironically the rise of clear gel and YouTube has caused issues for manufacturers. No matter what Clear Ballistics claims there have been Studies done that have proved that clear gel does not behave the same as true gel. This has led to hilarious results such as 147gr HST failing the FBI protocols when clear gel is used.

Most major manufactures (Winchester, Federal, Hornady, Speer, Remington…) are testing all new ammo in 10% FBI spec gel. The ones that worry me are the third party guys buying HP bullets and loading them.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I am not sure if it will, we had trouble running Fiochi out of it but that was most likely the magazine being filthy causing the follower not to fully feed the round, or the gun itself not being as clean as it should have been despite me telling him to clean and oil it before we shot.
We also ran a box of Herters and those didn't give us trouble once despite me expecting them to be the worse of the two.
Thanks for the input at least never used magtech myself but the cost isn't bad

Don't overlook Sellier & Bellot; YMMV, but whenever I had an older euro handgun that was especially picky, S&B was usually one of the few that would cycle.

Edit: I've heard anecdotes about S&B's vintage/uncommon calibers being made from original tooling & specifications; rather than worn-out original dies (or copies made from such), which had already passed through several hands & production runs. And where S&B did make their own, they copied sets of original unused dies, or something to that effect.

But my strongest suggestion is to stay away from remanned ammo like the plague; unless it's being fired through something that isn't important, by a hand that's not your own.

Yeah. The RDS only adds a bit of bulk at or around the beltline in any IWB holster, while the butt is the part that prints.

I've run into a slight issue with my shoulder rig where the RMR kinda digs into my armpit or ribs, depending on the holster itself (i.e. molded to shroud the RMR). Otherwise, I have to cant the holster at a weird angle, drop it a little lower (closer to my waist); or shift it further front/back, instead of directly under my arm.

It's not a big deal for toting to the range, but for everyday carry it's kinda awkward; especially when the RMR sometimes snagged on my jacket (or button-up shirt) when drawing the pistol.

 

[74164978231]

Sorry to ask a potentially stupid question but I am overthinking it and it's causing me grief, should I get a 1000 round case of Magtech 115 grain for $300? or go with the Winchester at the same weight for $400? Not so much for my pistol but my brother in his infinite wisdom decided to get a Walther P-38 and that thing is picky with feeding it's ammo

If its picky and its the only thing you have that shoots 9mm I wouldnt buy 1000 rounds without first making sure it likes the ammo.

Also my jimmies are still rustled you cant fold AK stocks while you have a rail adapter attached.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I've one to share. I present to you a weapon that has been in my family since at least the 1930's, a 1920 Colt Police Target .22 Double Action.

Now, there's the steely eyed among you who are going to notice that there is something funky going on with this weapon.

Keep that man. A 22LR will still defend your ass, and not just that, it's family history. Cherish it, keep it clean. It's beautiful despite its use, and the weld job ain't bad

Speaking of I'm saving up for a welder, so a gun is out of the picture for a while

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

If its picky and its the only thing you have that shoots 9mm I wouldnt buy 1000 rounds without first making sure it likes the ammo.

Also my jimmies are still rustled you cant fold AK stocks while you have a rail adapter attached.

Tell me about it, I am still annoyed I gotta be the one to buy ammo for him or else he might buy +P Hollowpoints and blow that thing to pieces.
Thank you to you and @Pocket Dragoon, @Smoke Manmuscle and @Mikoyan for the inputs though

 

[AGPinochet]

Ivan has put at least 90 rounds through this design, which he is designating Plastikov V4, notice the non traditional safety. (site won't let me thumbnail it)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrGuid8aAAY37Hd?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Some of you may remember that at SHOT this year FN showed off their IWS Rifle chambered in their proprietary .264 LICC with a unique all stainless steel construction. Well based off of the requirements laid out by the IWTSD the .264 LICC might be a "Fury" style cartridge as the requirements require a cartridge that can produce 2650fps from an 11.5in barrel. This is supported by IWTSD also requesting 14.5 and 18in barrels.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Tell me about it

just buy a box of a couple different brands and see how it goes. S&B works fairly well in most firearms i've used them with, along with PPU if you have an older 9mm from before 1950 or so.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

I have 5.56 guns and refuse to get any .300 BLK ever. There is too much concern on dangerous combinations happening.

This why I hate .300 BLK and wonder why it was ever approved.

For suppressed shooting I use .350 legend. Close to the same mag capacity and 50-100gr heavier bullet.

Uuuunfortunately the .350 legend isn't available for the guns in question, but that's a very sobering set of images there, holy shit.

Realistically I'd not be keeping the .300 blk build anywhere near my 5.56s, and it's a no-stock pistol kept stable entirely with sling tension, so I think my autism can keep track of that well enough compared to the other guns given it's very different look and feel.

To add to this advice, marking your mags (either with paint or even something as simple as a colored rubber band), is also a not-terrible idea, especially since mags are still pretty cheap.

Yeah, about the whole "getting more magazines" thing, Bruen has not yet come home to roost where I'm at so repurposing existing legally owned magazines is of high priority. I'd definitely run some colored electrical tape around the magazines loaded with .300blk though, the above more than convinces me of that.

 

[Club Sandwich]

very sobering set of images there

knew i kept this for a reason:

.300 blk in a "lower tier" 5.56 AR-15 where the magazines were mixed up unintentionally

 

[HarblMcDavid]

knew i kept this for a reason:

.300 blk in a "lower tier" 5.56 AR-15 where the magazines were mixed up unintentionally
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Any idea if that kaboom created a rearward traveling firing pin projectile? That's a pretty serious expansion.

 

[Club Sandwich]

rearward traveling firing pin projectile

it was mostly downward, destroying the magazine, blowing out the side of the receiver into a few large chunks.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Any idea if that kaboom created a rearward traveling firing pin projectile? That's a pretty serious expansion.

I don't see that being much of a concern, it's gotta make it out the carrier and then the receiver, if it had enough force to do that, then the entire thing would grenade and it'd make no difference.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

A suppressed AKMS in Ukraine, after firing 4000rds in 8 days:

 

[DocAwe]

A suppressed AKMS in Ukraine, after firing 4000rds in 8 days:
RDT_20230314_155828.mp4

That's what happens when you don't properly clean a gun after using corrosive ammo.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

That's what happens when you don't properly clean a gun after using corrosive ammo.

Not only, having the can blows all that extra shit back into the receiver.

And yet I thought Russia used non-corrosive ammo, at least for 7.62x39 and 5.45. Are they shooting 50's production ammo, and/or corrosive/old ammunition sent by their "allies"?

That would be hilarious, if the Chinese sent them tons of ammo that'll turn Russian AKs into rotted-out wrecks within a week, without Ivan stripping their AKs and boiling them in vats after every firefight (as was ideally done with their Mosins & machineguns in WW2).

 

[DocAwe]

Not only, having the can blows all that extra shit back into the receiver.

And yet I thought Russia used non-corrosive ammo, at least for 7.62x39 and 5.45. Are they shooting 50's production ammo, and/or corrosive/old ammunition sent by their "allies"?

That would be hilarious, if the Chinese sent them tons of ammo that'll turn Russian AKs into rotted-out wrecks within a week, without Ivan stripping their AKs and boiling them in vats after every firefight (as was ideally done with their Mosins & machineguns in WW2).

I think the military still uses the corrosive primers because they are supposed to be more reliable in the absolutely abusive cold they could be subjected to.
From memory they only bothered making non corrosive ammo because of the US exports market demanding it.
I could be mis-remembering that tho.
But yeah, hot water kills the salts pretty easy.
Hekk, I bet you could piss on them then a quick rinse from your canteen and get the job done.
I don't want to think about what the inside of that can looks like.

 

[Town Drunk]

I have 5.56 guns and refuse to get any .300 BLK ever. There is too much concern on dangerous combinations happening.



This why I hate .300 BLK and wonder why it was ever approved.

For suppressed shooting I use .350 legend. Close to the same mag capacity and 50-100gr heavier bullet.

Waiting on my tax stamp like a good sheep, but according to my research my 300 BLK pistol with a suppressor, using subsonic ammo, will give me 44 mag energy, with the only sound being the cycling. With 30 rounds in the mag, this will be my SHTF gun. The only downside is I had to buy special mags, as the heavier rounds didn't load properly in P mags.

 

[HumptiDouji]

A suppressed AKMS in Ukraine, after firing 4000rds in 8 days:
RDT_20230314_155828.mp4

That's corrosive to you. You could scrub that bitch clean of rust and the action should be good enough to go again, but I'm wondering how the bore is looking, it should be chromed, but how much bullshit can you throw at a chromed bore?

Not only, having the can blows all that extra shit back into the receiver.

Yeah, that's probably how so much rust ended up back in the receiver.

And yet I thought Russia used non-corrosive ammo, at least for 7.62x39 and 5.45. Are they shooting 50's production ammo, and/or corrosive/old ammunition sent by their "allies"?

If someone is rocking an old AKMS, I would not be surprised if they were also shooting ammo from old stockpiles.

But yeah, hot water kills the salts pretty easy.
Hekk, I bet you could piss on them then a quick rinse from your canteen and get the job done.

I recall an anon on /k/ many years ago, who said he pissed down the bore of his 91/30 after shooting corrosive surplus through it, and that it apparently worked.

Waiting on my tax stamp like a good sheep, but according to my research my 300 BLK pistol with a suppressor, using subsonic ammo, will give me 44 mag energy, with the only sound being the cycling.

I would like to see that research, what I've heard from others is that they get somewhere around .45 Auto or a heavy projectile, non-Magnum load of .45 Colt

 

[Mikoyan]

Waiting on my tax stamp like a good sheep, but according to my research my 300 BLK pistol with a suppressor, using subsonic ammo, will give me 44 mag energy, with the only sound being the cycling. With 30 rounds in the mag, this will be my SHTF gun. The only downside is I had to buy special mags, as the heavier rounds didn't load properly in P mags.

I say this as a person who is iffy on having an 'shtf gun' and also kind of likes 300 Blackout:

Yes, what I look for in a 'SHTF gun' is moderately uncommon buck a round(+) chamberings.