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Well, the ATF finally got off their lazy ass and approved my Form 4. Went and picked up my Vox S this morning. I'm now a proud suppressor owner. Ordered a KeyMo hub for it and hoping to order a muzzle device tomorrow.
 
I only use gen 2 and 3 PMAGs and have never had a problem getting a full 30 rounds to seat on a closed bolt, but I always give the mag a good smack on the ass to ensure it's fully seated anyway. Under stress, you might fuck up seating a tac reload, so giving the mag a smack and maybe a tug is always good.

I have a few of the Hexmags my brother bought, and those things feel flimsy as hell. They functioned fine the few times I used them, but they're definitely not made for durability. The difference between them and PMAGs is night and day. My brother bought a 10 pack of them for a very low price a while back to try out, and when we started handling them we figured out pretty quick why they were so inexpensive.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
Has anyone found 20 round mags that actually can be loaded to 20 and easily inserted on a closed bolt?
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Colt/Okay/NHMTG, Magpul, D&H, and weirdly enough old "tactical PTFE black followers" Bushmaster mags should seat on a closed bolt with all 20 rounds without issue. the key is not the magazine body or follower but the spring itself being a little too heavy than what should work properly. swap the spring (or invert it) and this should fix the problem unless the spring is too long, then you either have to trim it or get a different spring. Armalite AR-15 waffle mags and early Colt "AR-15" magazines were really hit or miss depending if they had the shiny or matte follower (dark green or gray being better than either). the later Colt rampant pony AR-15 magazines were fine as were both Sendra and Adventure Line, but those were really rare for 20 rounders and more 30 round ones.

Brownell's are made by Okay and D&H. although Okay switched to medical device manufacturing and i guess sold the tooling. you can buy the last mags from Okay via Botach or DEGuns.

the 20 round spring should have 10 coils and be oriented so the "angle" of the spring base is sloped opposite the floorplate (so when disassembled, the floorplate is angled rearward, the spring's bottom coil is angled forward). this is true of the 30 round magazine spring, but the angle isn't as steep.
 
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Does anyone have good suggestion for steel/aluminum case made in the US that's cheaper than brass? Wrote before a big vympl fan but those are gone from the SMO/war. If nobody sells it maybe I gotta convince the guys in Vietnam to sell me the old machinery lmao.

Figured I should stock up (more) since we'll be going full election retardation again soon.
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
Does anyone have good suggestion for steel/aluminum case made in the US that's cheaper than brass? Wrote before a big vympl fan but those are gone from the SMO/war. If nobody sells it maybe I gotta convince the guys in Vietnam to sell me the old machinery lmao.

Figured I should stock up (more) since we'll be going full election retardation again soon.
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If you shoot a lot of steel over an extended period it can damage your firearm. It may be cheaper but in my personal opinion its not worth it, get brass
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
Does anyone have good suggestion for steel/aluminum case made in the US that's cheaper than brass? Wrote before a big vympl fan but those are gone from the SMO/war. If nobody sells it maybe I gotta convince the guys in Vietnam to sell me the old machinery lmao.

Figured I should stock up (more) since we'll be going full election retardation again soon.
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762x39? Bro just go on ammoseek and find the cheapest option thats not telammo and load up.
 
EggImpregnator said:
20 round pmags
Arredondo +3 base pads on glock 17 mags.
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On the subject why did it take Magpul so long to come out Glock mags? Was I just not paying attention that month or something? We had the KCI Koreans (not terrible imho) before we had Magpul for Glock didn't we? US mechanical patent is still like what, 8 years? Magpul makes the most mags for the most popular rifle in the world and then they drag heels for making some 17/22 compatables? Do I have my timeline wrong here?
 
Smokingpoop said:
If you shoot a lot of steel over an extended period it can damage your firearm. It may be cheaper but in my personal opinion its not worth it, get brass
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I've read that it's mostly because the case doesn't expand and seal as well as brass, so steel runs dirtier in general. That, and the corrosive stuff is pretty self explanatory for why it's bad, but are there any other concerns? More direct force on the bolt compared to *brass? Harder on extractors?
 
Troon_Patrol said:
On the subject why did it take Magpul so long to come out Glock mags? Was I just not paying attention that month or something? We had the KCI Koreans (not terrible imho) before we had Magpul for Glock didn't we? US mechanical patent is still like what, 8 years? Magpul makes the most mags for the most popular rifle in the world and then they drag heels for making some 17/22 compatables? Do I have my timeline wrong here?
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Glock mags are already pretty cheap. Magpul Glock mags are OK, but not as good as OEM.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
Glock mags are already pretty cheap. Magpul Glock mags are OK, but not as good as OEM.
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Agreed. I've seen people say Magpul's Glock mags are trash, but I've got a bunch of them and use them at the range, and they've never given me any problems. I carry with OEM mags, though. Magpul's Glock mags do feel oddly cheap. Very strange considering how nice their other mags are.
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
Does anyone have good suggestion for steel/aluminum case made in the US that's cheaper than brass?
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for what cartridge? generally the price of labor increases the ammunition cost in the US almost regardless of material. aluminum cased ammo was intended to be very inexpensive compared to steel or brass, but it may as well not be. just buy steel case for firearms intended to use steel case from friendly countries where the cost of labor is cheap enough to make importing the ammunition worthwhile.
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
7.62x51.
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none that you can get. Igman is primarily selling their ammo local to Serbia for the war effort against russia, Tulammo and Barnaul aren't imported to the US anymore and some companies that produce it outside of the RUF (PPU, . Wolf sources from a bunch of places so maybe that can be an option. the very cheap steel cased RUAG you will never get ahold of either, but you see the zinc plated steel case pop up sometimes. then there's reasonably cheap brass from CBC (Brazil/Magtech), or PMC (Korea) as well. polymer cased ammo is still fairly expensive. Tela is good steel case 7.62x51mm from Azerbaijian but that's a bit spotty since they aren't as western friendly as Armenia and they have a current border dispute between each other and are reigning in supplies for that. ZQI, GGG, et c are all going to ukraine for the war effort and what is exported isn't particularly cheap either, at least not on the level of "blasting" ammo.
Lord of the Large Pants said:
Is using lapping compound to smooth the fit between slide and frame ever a good idea?
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yes and no. are you a racegun enthusiast or need extremely high precision fit for a string of fire before packing up after getting your bullseye points?
Samhain said:
Magpul's Glock mags
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they're good range mags, but the proliferation of OEM mags for cheap in the market makes them rather pointless. they also have a tendency to not perform well (in my experience) in some glock-magazine carbines. they also aren't metal-reinforced, but then again, modern polymer technology makes that somewhat of a non-issue these days. it isn't the 80's any more where the OEM all-polymer glock mags cracked apart.
 
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Samhain said:
Agreed. I've seen people say Magpul's Glock mags are trash, but I've got a bunch of them and use them at the range, and they've never given me any problems. I carry with OEM mags, though. Magpul's Glock mags do feel oddly cheap. Very strange considering how nice their other mags are.
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I have a bunch and they're fine in my experience. The only thing I've ever seen with them is they can gum up if you're running a shitload of dirty steel cased ammo at a multi-day class or something, but they clean up fine.
 
here's a more interesting question: Magpul offers aluminum P320 magazines.


i bought 5 to see how they are at the range and shoot house. pray for me, this is a brave new world. soon the all-metal glock will come out and be cast into the sea, wounding the Beast as he rises, the blood of the dying old world healing him during the End of Days.
 
Club Sandwich said:
here's a more interesting question: Magpul offers aluminum P320 magazines.


i bought 5 to see how they are at the range and shoot house. pray for me, this is a brave new world. soon the all-metal glock will come out and be cast into the sea, wounding the Beast as he rises, the blood of the dying old world healing him during the End of Days.
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Description says “stainless steel alloy”

What’s the advantage vs regular 320 mags?
 
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