Mega Rad Gun Thread

[The Dude]

@John Badman regarding slings, I prefer two-point slings for carbines, rifles, and full-size shotguns. When the weapon is long and on the heavier side I've found two-point slings keep the weapon closer to your body and more secure, so the weapon doesn't bounce around as much when you're moving, especially if you don't have hands on the weapon at that time to steady it. One-point slings are nice for shorter, lighter weight weapons like SBRs, PCCs, subguns, and SBSs.

My personal favorite sling is the TAB Gear Pinnacle Rifle Sling. It is simply the best sling I've ever used, and I've used a ton of slings. It is over-built like a fucking Iowa class battleship, is nice and wide to disperse the weight better and not dig into your neck and the top of your shoulder, and TAB offers quite a few options to configure it. I own two, a black one and an OD green one, both with Cobra Buckles to configure the sling or to quickly get free if you get snagged on something.

I plan on getting two more so that I have one on each of my defensive long guns. The reason I only have two right now is because they ain't cheap, especially if you get them configured with the Cobra buckles instead of the cheaper side-release buckles. I think they start at $120 and they're like $170 or something with the Cobra buckles, but I'm a big believer in quality over quantity and buy once, cry once. Especially when it comes to something I may have to trust my life or the lives of my family to.

 

[WelperHelper99]

If it's too dogshit then just do what I and some friends do here with a local Argentine brand called Waffen (yes it's a real thing) and pop the projectiles out and reload them yourself consistently (or do Juan's recargas gauchas handloads), with how retardedly expensive ammo is here and how hard it is to get smokeless it's super worth it, but you're American so ymmv.

I've shot blazer in other guns, it's not THAT bad, maybe just a dud every once or a while lol.

One guys experience. I've shot ~1000 rounds of Blazer brass 124 gr 9mm in the last year with no issues I can remember. Seems to be generally well regarded online, only some issues with people shooting the aluminum stuff in PCCs. They're among the cheaper brands that aren't turkshit, rebranded turkshit, or remans, but I think that's due to volume more than poor quality.

This is basically my experience. I'll be shooting it in a pistol, not a PCC, and I expect to burn through it fast breaking the SD40 2.0 in. As long as most of it shoots, and from prior experience I really have no reason to think it won't work, I'm happy. It's cheap range fodder, not save my life shit. That's what I bought this for:


Speer G2 Gold Dot from all the tests I've seen FUCKS. This is the save my life ammo. The Blazer is just practice. I'll eventually pick up other brands, been looking at that syntech shit, but Blazer is just the start of The Horde TM

 

[Samhain]

Any suggestions for an RMR footprint dot?

Trijicon RCR.

i'm narrowing down the choice on MP5 optics to either a holosun 510c or a PA GLX2x

I have experience with both of these optics. The 510C is a fine optic. Decent glass (slight blue tint), big window, donut of death reticle that I really like since I'm primarily an EOTech user, but it's an open emitter, which allows water, snow or other debris to potentially occlude the emitter. The GLX 2X is actually a really great optic. Very clear glass, nice reticle for the low level of magnification, reticle gets very bright, and 2x magnification doesn't hinder both-eyes-open close-up shooting with a little practice. The BDC dots and ranging bars would pretty much be useless on an MP5, but they're easy to ignore and don't illuminate.

I'm going to say get the GLX 2X and give it a try. PA has a 90 day satisfaction guarantee, so you can use it and decide if you like it or not.

 

[Foley]

Why? If they're going to stick to 5.56, there's no reason to drop the M4 when there are a billion of them already in service. Unless they're going to issue a suppressor to literally everyone, the only benefit the MCX offers is ambi controls, and there are plenty of AR lowers they could choose from instead.

Maybe it would make the people in charge look a bit better, if at least something came out of the program



I agree, not necessary to change from the M4. Just stick a URGI upper to most of them and call it a day.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

i'm narrowing down the choice on MP5 optics to either a holosun 510c or a PA GLX2x on a low profile MI rail. i'm leaning towards the prism scope since it seems to be what i'd want from the mini acog while in an actually reasonable price range. this has been a harder call to make. the irons work so well that i don't want to replace them with a range tier red dot, maybe the 510c would work? the 507k on my dad's pistol is nice and clear. besides the sights i know for sure i'm going to put a KES tailhook brace on about a month from now.

also if nobody has mentioned it HKparts has magpul G17 and G19 magazines on clearance for about ten bucks each

2x is unnecessary on a 9mm. Don’t they make a 1x prism?

 

[John Badman]

I think my laziness in getting the 8x instead of 6x created another problem for me. Since it’s a budget SFP my BDC holds don’t scale unless if I’m cranked up to 8. That’s not an issue for hunting unless if I need to get wider field of view, I can remedy this by dialing in from 1 to 8 when I get positive identification on something like a standing deer.

The issue is this isn’t ideal for tracking left or right and holding for wind up to 10 mph.

Another thing I’ve realized is quick target acquisition, if I’m running circuit drills shooting and scooting I’ll need to keep mental note on what magnification I’m on and engrain that muscle memory to flip back to 1.

I’m considering adding a dedicated offset red dot, what I have in mind is a Trijicon SRO. Ideally I want a wider window compared to what I have on my pistol currently. The idea I have is to use the red dot from 0-50/100 yards if the daylight bright is good enough and then use the bdc donut to dial in longer midrange shots where I would actually be using the bdc wind holds.

This is all going on my Christmas or Black Friday sale list, I’m promising myself I won’t spend anymore money unless if it’s ammo or a new stock. I like the A2 grip enough to keep it and I’ll even stay with the GI sling for now, but the m4 usgi stock I have now is an uncomfortable sharp piece of shit. I’ll probably go downtown some time this weekend to the tacticool store and see if they have something comfier.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I put a microscope on my AR

You should have sprung for the ACOG, bro
I warned you, bro

you should have listened bro

 

[Samhain]

I've tried a few sub-$500 LPVOs and they all sucked. Vortex Strike Eagle, Sig Tango-MSR, and a Primary Arms 1-6 that I can't remember the name of. That said, I'm also biased against LPVOs. I just don't like them.

I really like ACOGs with top mounted red dots. I got to try a TA02 (red crosshair) with a top mounted RMR and it was fantastic. I do most of my shooting 100 yards and in, so I use EOTechs with 3x magnifiers, but if I was ever going to set up a gun primarily for 100-400 yards, I'd get a TA02 w/ RCR on top.

I know some people look down on the LED models, but not having to deal with taping and untaping the fiber optic was nice. No sudden reticle blooming because the sun decided to come out.

 

[John Badman]

I just spent $500 on ammo and mags. I’m kinda dizzy. This hobby is too expensive

 

[Bassomatic]

I just spent $500 on ammo and mags. I’m kinda dizzy. This hobby is too expensive

It only gets worse lol. Honestly i still at time play with my cars but fuck me 500+ for some dinky plastic intake or 4k for rims then need tires....that 6k BAR and 50 bucks of 9mm seem cheaper.

Least how I lie to myself.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Are y’all really shooting 5.56 past 300 yards? I know you can shoot further, I’ve used it to about 900 yards, but is that really your use case?

 

[Burekbossman]

Are y’all really shooting 5.56 past 300 yards? I know you can shoot further, I’ve used it to about 900 yards, but is that really your use case?

One-upsmanship on your friends. The round looses effectiveness past 300, but bigger number = better.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

One-upsmanship on your friends. The round looses effectiveness past 300, but bigger number = better.

I don’t think most people who have LPVOs on their gun actually shoot at enough distance to use the holds. They just see the internet trends and think LPVO=600 yard gun

 

[WhoBusTank69]

but is that really your use case?

It's cathartic, like hitting golf balls at the driving range.

 

[Dean Pentel]

I vehemently disagree that the ACOG is antiquated and a waste of money. They have a lot of benefits that other optics don't offer, such as never needing batteries (unless you get the LED model) and their rugged construction. There was a Marine during the GWOT who took a 7.62x39mm round to his ACOG, blasting a sizable hole in the side, and it didn't even lose zero. He was able to stay in the fight and didn't even realize his optic had been shot until they had returned to base and he went to clean his rifle, which is when he saw the hole and realized what had happened. That optic was sent back to Trijicon who sent him a replacement and put the damaged optic in their Hall of Fame. I think they're a great option for anyone who wants a simple, rugged optic for a fighting carbine or PCC and doesn't want a red dot.

I agree with you here. I've used the ACOG in the past and it works just fine if you understand its limitations. This is true for any optic and it turns out what works well for someone may not work well for you.

If they only made a 1x version of the ACOG.

What about one of those Primary Arms prism optics? I've never run one but I hear they're decent.

They've used that shit since the beginning, even in their converted K98k of which they had literal dumpsters full of. I just don't see them going for 6.8, frugality aside, mainly because their opponents are unarmored more often than not and that's supposed to be its selling point.

I've asked people whose opinion I trust on this which military forces are actually fielding the kind of armor this rifle is supposed to defeat en masse. The majority response is, "Nobody. Only the American citizenry has that sort of armor in that quantity." Make of that what you will.

I'd reach for Blazer before turkshit and remans in a heartbeat.

I definitely won't pretend as if I've tried a lot of different companies' remans, but I've shot a lot of remans from Defender Ammo and LAX Ammo. Both are just fine and I was surprised by the consistency I got from Defender. Everything fed in all my pistols and not huge spreads in velocity when I chrono'd them.

That said, I'm also biased against LPVOs. I just don't like them.

I think I can understand this perspective. I've tried a few and I think like many fads in the shooting industry, the market got caught up in the hype and what it produced didn't match what the marketing promised. This is especially true with 1-10X. It has to make too many concessions to be what it claims. I think 1-4X or 1-6X is where users should stay magnification-wise. Even the damn expensive stuff like the Vortex Razor Gen 3, the March F, or the Nightforce ATACR can't escape physics and thus the dogshit performance at 8-10X.

Are y’all really shooting 5.56 past 300 yards? I know you can shoot further, I’ve used it to about 900 yards, but is that really your use case?

I've run 5.56 out to 400 often enough without any issues. I personally think that's about its limit, even with the Mk 262 killing people much further out. Yes, it can do that, but there's far better cartridges available now in the same platform. But that's just my opinion.

 

[The Dude]

Are y’all really shooting 5.56 past 300 yards? I know you can shoot further, I’ve used it to about 900 yards, but is that really your use case?

I'm with you here. Personally, I think 5.56x45mm is a great urban round where your engagement distances are going to be fairly close, but if you feel you're going to be shooting past 150-200 yards or so you'd be better suited going to a larger round like 7.62x51mm. Especially nowadays with modern, high quality rifles that a almost as compact and lightweight as 5.56mm rifles and have the same layout and controls as their smaller caliber counterparts.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

I’m running a 50m zero which is basically POA/POI to about 225 yards. 300 is a “head” hold, and 400 is a “hat” hold. Beyond that wind becomes more of an issue. I’m running a dot with 5x magnifier and I get the true 1x low parallax generous eyebox with the ability for magnification if I need it

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

I just spent $500 on ammo and mags. I’m kinda dizzy. This hobby is too expensive

Nobody ever tells you at the outset that the guns are the cheap part if you actually do any shooting...

Also, re: optics, I really like the combination I put on my most recent AR assembly, which is the PA 5x microprism paired with a Holosun 20mm microdot on PA's offset T1 mount. Lighter than the dot/magnifier combo that I've got on another rifle by a not-insignificant margin and way lighter than a LPVO+mount:

 

[Romulus augustulus]

LVPO's are pretty useful for hunting IMO. I like them for small game like squirrel. Keep it on low power for scanning tree tops for squirrel and moving shots and zoom in for stationary kills.

same would apply for larger game. Low power for closer higher for farther. Many a hunter has winged a shot because his 12x power scope was too much for a 50 yard shot. Hard to aim for the vital organs when all you can see is fur with no reference.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Nobody ever tells you at the outset that the guns are the cheap part if you actually do any shooting...

Also, re: optics, I really like the combination I put on my most recent AR assembly, which is the PA 5x microprism paired with a Holosun 20mm microdot on PA's offset T1 mount. Lighter than the dot/magnifier combo that I've got on another rifle by a not-insignificant margin and way lighter than a LPVO+mount:

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