Mega Rad Gun Thread

[God's drunkest driver]

Yeah, I'm aware. Fingers crossed that mine last. So far so good, even the

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Kimber

. I've encountered no feeding issues, but I'm not exactly adventurous with my ammo choices, I buy what's on sale in bulk and don't do much testing nor do I shoot anything weird out of them like wide flat nose lead bullets.

Ok, I just looked at the ballistics....I will be finding a 10mm soon. @God's drunkest driver Thank you for that. Now to see if I can somehow ghetto rig my Glock 33 to shoot that round.....LOL

It's unfortunate, but you can't.

You'll be paying anywhere from $900 to two grand. Have fun.

Is this recent, as in since the discontinuing and boomer fest driving up the prices? I could have sworn I'd seen 10mm Glocks, including the 29, for normal LGS-high/used Glock prices last year.

 

[sodomy lifestyle]

Legal thunk time

Makes me wonder if modern mass production methods could cause a batch of the same firearm to produce similar forensic data. Like worn tools used to form the rifling leading to identical marks on a fired bullet, or a mold imperfection being transferred on multiple cast slides or firing pins, doing the same for casings.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Lol, 10mm M&P carry comp announced today

https://www.smith-wesson.com/company/news

Someone here willed it into existence

 

[quaawaa]

Is this some meta level troll to push gun control? Guy is working really hard to make the round sound super duper other worldly when it gets 3500fps out of an 18 barrel. Not much faster than fucking m193 out of a similar length barrel.

Because anyone who knows anything about barrel length, niche loads isnt creaming their pants over this.

It's a 75 gr bullet, not 55 gr. The larger bullets have better BCs and are more stable, less influenced by wind, and carry more energy at range. 3500 fps is impressive; normal 77 gr ammo gets around 2700 fps out of an 18" barrel.

 

[BikeLock]

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Lol, 10mm M&P carry comp announced today

https://www.smith-wesson.com/company/news

Someone here willed it into existence

That's quite the noise maker...

hmmm

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

About to do some cleaning and make a kydex holster for her thanks the kydex sheets my buddy gave me for Christmas.
Stand is courtesy of another buddy and his 3D printer.

I like repairing and building watches, so the same buddy told me how wicked it would be to replace the paint on guns with lume. I've got pro-grade watch lume kits, so I did just that. Ended up doing it to every ironsight gun in the house. Bright white under daylight, but if you hit it with a bright light or UV for a couple seconds, it glows the whole night. Open carry out in the sun would guarantee you can use the irons till dawn. Buddies and I got to try it out on my birthday this year shooting civvy tracers in pitch black night and the irons were stupid legible. We ended up doing the same with BGW9 blue lume to his Jericho. Sure you've got fancy tritium tubes, but those have a half life. Half life of these are whenever the lume gets dug out, and takes five minutes to mix and glop some new dots in.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

It's certainly a solution. It used to be fairly easy to source good tritium tubes and DIY night sights by drilling standard sights and gluing in tubes. They're somewhat harder to source now and I've heard the quality is NFG.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Can’t wait for all their clueless wives and children to liquidate their gun safes. Maybe that way I’ll get an HK P7 that won’t cost a car down payment.

Heck yeah! That's how I got my unfired 29-2 a few years back.

The .41 magnum which is so often called the equal to the 10mm absolutely smokes the 10mm.

Who's saying this? Sure some of the better 10mm loads can come close to the light .41 stuff but the good stuff is far more powerful (you know, the whole concept behind a magnum revolver) than anything 10mm can hope to do.

Get a Glock 20. I would suggest the 29 but they're unobtanium, and the 40 is a longslide.

I suggest looking for a used M&P. Go for the 4" model. Easy to find, comes optics ready (get a Calculated Kinetics Dog Tag plate), and out of the box the trigger is far better than the Glock. I've found that while the magazines can hold 15 rounds, it's much easier to seat them on a closed slide with 14. Still plenty of capacity assuming you can do your part.

We ended up doing the same with BGW9 blue lume to his Jericho.

That's a darn nice Jericho. I'll never bother to own one since I have plenty of CZs but Cowboy Bebop put love for those in my heart decades ago.

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Lol, 10mm M&P carry comp announced today

https://www.smith-wesson.com/company/news

Someone here willed it into existence

I wish they'd do a steel framed 4.6" model with no safety. A striker-fired full size 10mm pistol with a steel frame would be badass but I doubt there's much of a market for that.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

That's a darn nice Jericho. I'll never bother to own one since I have plenty of CZs but Cowboy Bebop put love for those in my heart decades ago.

Appreciate it. She's my first big boy gun I ever bought myself. Spent years tracking one down. She's got patina, as the watch people say. She's my baby, but I don't baby her.
She's a workin' gal. I'm too poor for safe queens.

Keep an eye out. You can still snag em for $400 or less on chance. Sometimes crates come in, but if I recall the last crate of true "one piece slide" Jerichos had come in like last year. So unless someone finds another, it'll be all boogers from here on out.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Is this recent, as in since the discontinuing and boomer fest driving up the prices? I could have sworn I'd seen 10mm Glocks, including the 29, for normal LGS-high/used Glock prices last year.

I did a quick glance and they're out of stock for the usual big dealers, so yeah it's probably being bought up as part of the speculative market.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Legal thunk time

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Cwbx6b5I0E
Makes me wonder if modern mass production methods could cause a batch of the same firearm to produce similar forensic data. Like worn tools used to form the rifling leading to identical marks on a fired bullet, or a mold imperfection being transferred on multiple cast slides or firing pins, doing the same for casings.

matching bullets to barrels and other CSI shit is all fake and gay. all barrels produced by that machine will be matches.

Who's saying this? Sure some of the better 10mm loads can come close to the light .41 stuff but the good stuff is far more powerful (you know, the whole concept behind a magnum revolver) than anything 10mm can hope to do.

that's just been one of the things that 10mm evangelists say. 10mm = .41 mag. it gets repeated as fact despite being false.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Legal thunk time

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2Cwbx6b5I0E
Makes me wonder if modern mass production methods could cause a batch of the same firearm to produce similar forensic data. Like worn tools used to form the rifling leading to identical marks on a fired bullet, or a mold imperfection being transferred on multiple cast slides or firing pins, doing the same for casings.

Without power leveling too much the answer is absolutely yes.

 

[The Dude]

The hotter 10mm Stuff based on the original load pressures is in the low 700s for muzzle energy in ft./lbs. Some of the really hot stuff is getting in the high 700s to low 800s for boutique bear loads. Most 10mm is loaded to similar pressures as the FBI Light Load developed by Federal for the FBI duty ammo contract they got in the 90s, which is in the low 500s for muzzle energy and was the load the .40 S&W was based on.

Elmer Keith developed two loads when he created the .41 Magnum: a 230gr semi-wadcutters at about 1200fps and 1000 ft./lbs. for handgun hunting, and a 180gr load at about 950fps and roughly 520 ft./lbs. for law enforcement use. I could have the exact specs wrong, but he developed a hotter, heavier load for hunting and a lighter load for law enforcement which is close to the modern. 40 S&W. However, there are much hotter loads available in .41 Mag these days. I've got a box of Barnes Vort-Tx 180gr solid copper hollow points at 1520fps and a box of Underwood 230gr Keith style semi-wadcutter gas check hard cast lead bullets at 1450fps. The Underwoods in particular are quite a handful and are only a tad slower than the lighter solid copper Barnes bullets. I forget the exact muzzle energy of each, but they're both well above 900 ft./lbs.

 

[Dean Pentel]

I've got a box of Barnes Vort-Tx 180gr solid copper hollow points at 1520fps and a box of Underwood 230gr Keith style semi-wadcutter gas check hard cast lead bullets at 1450fps.

Fucking hell, mate, that sounds like my loads for .44 magnum. That SWC is going to wreck any living thing it hits.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I've got a box of Barnes Vort-Tx 180gr solid copper hollow points at 1520fps and a box of Underwood 230gr Keith style semi-wadcutter gas check hard cast lead bullets at 1450fps. The Underwoods in particular are quite a handful and are only a tad slower than the lighter solid copper Barnes bullets. I forget the exact muzzle energy of each, but they're both well above 900 ft./lbs.

That's a lot of power. I really never see .41 magnum conversions though. The most wildcat handgun chambering I have is my .460 Rowland conversion, and with the ~5.9" barrel and Buffalo Bore 230gr JHP I got mid 1400fps out of the two I put past a chronograph which is closing on 1,100ft-lbf. At over $3/round shipped and at the expense of the longevity of one of my favorite guns though, I don't exactly put that barrel in and use it much. It would suck to have to use it in its woodsman role because it's extremely loud with the brake.

 

[ellroy]

Without power leveling too much the answer is absolutely yes.

Please power level. This is relevant to the thread.

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

10mm is a smidge more powerful than 357 magnum as originally designed, but the floor for commercial ammunition is much lower for 10mm, and the ceiling for commercial 357 magnum ammunition is much higher. If you get a quality 10mm loading, it's basically a warm 357 magnum, which is absolutely a very nice amount of power, but a hot 357 magnum will absolutely exceed what 10mm can do. It's certainly no 44 magnum, but I also think that amount of recoil is too much for the average shooter, while the 10mm is much easier to manage. Typically though, revolvers have more magnum if that's your thing. I personally think you hit diminishing returns on handgun power after a certain point between weight, recoil, and report, and you will probably miss when under duress so the tripled magazine capacity is a big plus.

I suppose it's all preference. Revolvers are still really popular for good reasons, but I would only ever go to a semi automatic handgun for anything serious. Revolvers are just toys to me.

 

[AGPinochet]

7th Special Forces Group Rifle


Improvised SMG from the first Chechen war


Sean Strickland, #3 ranked UFC Middleweight is a proponent of the Lima Six Belt Fed. Their is now a chance that the Joe Rogan Experience will one day serve as impromptu advertising for Lima Six Belt Feds

Lebanese child with FAMAS


Full Conceal Glock that was offered for sale on the Iraqi black market


Issue #16 of the GunCAD Digest

https://archive.ph/L1NBC

A Few thoughts I had
1. Due to $0 Tax Stamps, the Revolver Seal mechanism makes a little more economic sense to produce

I present to you, Revolver Seal

2. Also due to $0 Tax Stamps, it also makes a little more sense to offer Pistols designed to have quick detect shoulder stocks that may or may not also double as holsters. Would not be practical but would be cool. Something Keltec or B&T would do.

 

[The Dude]

Fucking hell, mate, that sounds like my loads for .44 magnum. That SWC is going to wreck any living thing it hits.

That's kinda why it never really caught on in either civilian circles, or with law enforcement. Law enforcement was pretty happy with their .38 Specials and .357 Magnums if they wanted something hotter than .38 Spcl. Civilians felt that if they needed something more than .357 Mag, then .44 Mag was already available and established. I personally love .41 Mag. It offers very similar energy to .44 Magnum but with flatter trajectory and typically a little faster velocity, and I like the history behind them. It really does fit nicely between .357 and .44. My .41 Magnum is a vintage first generation Smith and Wesson Model 57, which was the the original .41 Magnum and an N Frame just like the Model 27 and Model 29. There was also a Model 58 which basically looked like a giant Model 10 with the notch rear sight and a half moon blade for the front sight, a matte blue finish, and it was intended as the law enforcement model. There were a few agencies who did issue the .41 Magnum, typically for motorcycle cops and Highway Patrol where they may need to shoot through cars, but it was never to the degree of the .38s and .357s.

 

[74164978231]

It's a 75 gr bullet, not 55 gr. The larger bullets have better BCs and are more stable, less influenced by wind, and carry more energy at range. 3500 fps is impressive; normal 77 gr ammo gets around 2700 fps out of an 18" barrel.

Yes all those times Delta boys get into 400m engagements with their sub 16 inch rifles, going to come in real handy and show its value then.

This is just SOCOM pissing away money because no one can tell them not to be retarded.