Metro Devs throw hissy fit over planned boycott of Epic Store - Threatens to block future PC ports.

[AnOminous]

You can also just run directly from the directory with many titles.

GoG offers DRM-free everything as a selling point, with no Chinese trickery.

 

[SiccDicc]

GoG offers DRM-free everything as a selling point, with no Chinese trickery.

Just Polish elbow grease.

 

[Wake me up]

Just Polish elbow grease.

Stop it, you're making me horny

 

[Shitassdeaddude]

Well, if they drop out of PCs entirely then that means no more wads of sweet sweet exclusivity yuan.

 

[Secret Asshole]

you literally got proven wrong and you are calling someone else a corporate dicksucker
go suck on valve's cock some more

Nigger, Epic's store and program is inferior to every single launcher on the market except for Bethesda's because Bethesda can't even build a mod of their own game without it collapsing from under them. So great, you've got a store that's better than Bethesda's. So instead of being dead last on the list of launcher quality, its second to last. Another ringing fucking endorsement. Its not just that Steam is better. EVERY OTHER launcher and store is better (excepting Bethesda).

And pre-orders of the Division 2 are 6x higher than the Division were on Ubi's store. People would rather use fucking. Uplay. than touch Epic. This platform is REALLY selling me guys, I don't know about you. Second to last in the list of launchers, people using Uplay more than Epic, I mean, who WOULDN'T want to use that service?

Oh, anyone who is not fucking re.tarded.

Uh oh, did the shills get punished by their government for failing to convince everyone of the greatness of the epic store?

Actually they did too good of a job and are now in the Muslim re-education camps, teaching them the glorious ways of Epic before releasing them into the wild to farm Fortnite accounts for the Chinese government so they can launder money.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

They should be more pissed off at their publishers for losing them money.
"But Epic only takes 12% instead of the 30% Steam takes, they'll make MORE" the autists will say.
Well, Epic decided to price the game at $50 in the US in an effort to try and get people to use their launcher. It would have been $60 on Steam. $50 is a loss of 16.6% from $60.

16.6 + 12 = 28.6%

That's right, they'll be getting a whole 1.6% more profit on the Epic store!
Now consider how much money they're not gonna be making from the lost sales because there are a LOT of people are completely unwilling to give the Epic launcher the time of day. That's gonna hurt the bottom line a bit.

And then, when it finally does come to Steam, there are going to be people who have completely forgotten about it. Not to mention that after a year most games get a price reduction. And if it hits Steam at full price after being reduced in price on the Epic store there are going to be a LOT of people who'll get pissed and not buy it anyway.
(Granted they miiiight be able to recover some of this loss considering they're gouging the fuck out of their Eurotrash customers, the game being priced at €59.99, which is the equivalent of $67.83 in USD)

Yeah, if 4A wants to get pissed at someone, they ought to get pissed at Deep Silver. Frankly If I were them I'd be looking for a way out of my relationship with that publisher ASAP.

 

[Secret Asshole]

They should be more pissed off at their publishers for losing them money.
"But Epic only takes 12% instead of the 30% Steam takes, they'll make MORE" the autists will say.
Well, Epic decided to price the game at $50 in the US in an effort to try and get people to use their launcher. It would have been $60 on Steam. $50 is a loss of 16.6% from $60.

16.6 + 12 = 28.6%

That's right, they'll be getting a whole 1.6% more profit on the Epic store!
Now consider how much money they're not gonna be making from the lost sales because there are a LOT of people are completely unwilling to give the Epic launcher the time of day. That's gonna hurt the bottom line a bit.

And then, when it finally does come to Steam, there are going to be people who have completely forgotten about it. Not to mention that after a year most games get a price reduction. And if it hits Steam at full price after being reduced in price on the Epic store there are going to be a LOT of people who'll get pissed and not buy it anyway.
(Granted they miiiight be able to recover some of this loss considering they're gouging the fuck out of their Eurotrash customers, the game being priced at €59.99, which is the equivalent of $67.83 in USD)

Yeah, if 4A wants to get pissed at someone, they ought to get pissed at Deep Silver. Frankly If I were them I'd be looking for a way out of my relationship with that publisher ASAP.

It was actually Koch Media that made that decision. The reason why they had the stickers on the back was obvious they were in negotiations for awhile. The rumor going around is that Epic is paying the Metro Exodus publisher the projected sales lost on Steam in the year-long interim. So even if they aren't on Steam, they're still getting what they would have gotten (projected) and the less cut from Epic. The reasoning for this is obvious, there's little to no risk for Koch media, they get their money either way. They don't shit-talk Epic and it makes Epic look good for other publishers. Win-Win for everyone. Not for consumers though, there's 0 reason to go over to that trash.

So the publisher isn't really losing out. Its obvious that the route Epic wants to go is to brute force people to come to its platform by having other publishers blacklist other platforms. Its not really giving a fuck about the consumer or attracting them with a decent product. Its basically trying to drag you by the hair over to it. Which is obvious to anyone with a functioning nervous system. Which is why people are avoiding it like herpes.

It wants to be publisher-friendly and force consumers over. Its not winning you over with a better or more competitive product. Its trying to court greedy fucks to force you over. This is why it faces so much resistance from PC gamers.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

It was actually Koch Media that made that decision. The reason why they had the stickers on the back was obvious they were in negotiations for awhile. The rumor going around is that Epic is paying the Metro Exodus publisher the projected sales lost on Steam in the year-long interim. So even if they aren't on Steam, they're still getting what they would have gotten (projected) and the less cut from Epic. The reasoning for this is obvious, there's little to no risk for Koch media, they get their money either way. They don't shit-talk Epic and it makes Epic look good for other publishers. Win-Win for everyone. Not for consumers though, there's 0 reason to go over to that trash.

So the publisher isn't really losing out. Its obvious that the route Epic wants to go is to brute force people to come to its platform by having other publishers blacklist other platforms. Its not really giving a fuck about the consumer or attracting them with a decent product. Its basically trying to drag you by the hair over to it. Which is obvious to anyone with a functioning nervous system. Which is why people are avoiding it like herpes.

It wants to be publisher-friendly and force consumers over. Its not winning you over with a better or more competitive product. Its trying to court greedy fucks to force you over. This is why it faces so much resistance from PC gamers.

If it isn't just a rumor, that could end up biting Epic in the ass if things don't go the way they want.
Imagine if Epic sells 10 million copies, but Steam ends up selling sell twice as many copies. Every dime of that 12% cut they got from the sales would be going to pay for that and then some.

 

[Slap47]

I think this will be especially devastating because of the mediocrity of the game.

Jim Stirling's review was pretty on point. Reviewers love the game because its like the AAA garbage they're accustomed to but the series has lost the atmospheric feel that made it distinct.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I think that's going to hurt a lot too. A lot of the charm for Metro was the claustrophobic nature of it. I feel like they should have stuck to the open world underground idea, which would have been more unique than going topside. So you lose a lot of the charm with long range gunfights and shit. Metro was all about that close range. Shame it lost that charm

If it isn't just a rumor, that could end up biting Epic in the ass if things don't go the way they want.
Imagine if Epic sells 10 million copies, but Steam ends up selling sell twice as many copies. Every dime of that 12% cut they got from the sales would be going to pay for that and then some.

Yeah, Epic has been doing this a lot by paying out for exclusives at a loss, trying to build all of this up through sheer force. Its using its Fortnite warchest to do this primarily. Shame Fortnite is facing a lot of competition now. Actually its not. Fortnite and Epic are fucking cancer.

 

[The tired cat]

I think that's going to hurt a lot too. A lot of the charm for Metro was the claustrophobic nature of it. I feel like they should have stuck to the open world underground idea, which would have been more unique than going topside. So you lose a lot of the charm with long range gunfights and shit. Metro was all about that close range. Shame it lost that charm.

Yeah, no it wasn't. Even in the books the claustrophobic nature was losing it's charm more and more; there's only so much you can use that concept before people get sick of it.

 

[Slap47]

Going outside was scary as hell in the original Metro but that is obviously not the case here.

People seem to be spraying pretty liberally in the gameplay footage so it looks like they even abandoned the munitions as money concept or at least made it irrelevant.

 

[The tired cat]

Going outside was scary as hell in the original Metro but that is obviously not the case here.

People seem to be spraying pretty liberally in the gameplay footage so it looks like they even abandoned the munitions as money concept or at least made it irrelevant.

You do realize there were two types of munitions in the Metro series. Military grade ammo that was used as currency, which was only done in the Russian Metro, and ammo they created themselves which really sucked. So, from what I saw it seems they weren't using military ammo for combat.

 

[Secret Asshole]

So another 'lovely' feature of the Epic game launcher is showing ads that pop up for games when you aren't playing it, interrupting other games:

https://twitter.com/Bro_Team_Pill/status/1098676766531510272?s=19

Fuck anyone defending this piece of trash.

 

[Wake me up]

he Epic game launcher is showing ads

Imagine the shitstorm if Steam randomly started showing pop-up ads while you're not playing. What the fuck are they thinking at Epic to even include this so early on instead of waiting a couple years for it instead?!

Say whatever you want about Lord Gaben but at least Valve has standards.

 

[Cod of War]

Imagine the shitstorm if Steam randomly started showing pop-up ads while you're not playing.

These ads pop-up while you're playing.

Edit: I love how people in that thread are saying "Oh you can turn it off in the settings." It shouldn't be enabled automatically and ads shouldn't be appearing in the middle of a game.

 

[Secret Asshole]

These ads pop-up while you're playing.

Edit: I love how people in that thread are saying "Oh you can turn it off in the settings." It shouldn't be enabled automatically and ads shouldn't be appearing in the middle of a game.

Dumbest fucking excuse. It should not exist at all. There's a thing called a 'storefront' for that. Fuck, it shouldn't even pop-up while I'm not playing. Steam doesn't do that to me, no other launcher does. I don't want to see your fucking ads on my computer.

People have this hate-boner for Steam because 'muh DRM', when Epic has the same DRM situation along with Chinese influence and worse features, and is incredibly bloated already without any features.

EDIT:
>Buy Metro Exodus on Epic
> Watch Emotional Cut-scene, getting totally invested
> Suddenly Pop-Up Ads You didn't know about: FREE GAME AVAILABLE NOW, WACKY RACES 3 EXCLUSIVE TO EPIC

 

[byuu]

ople have this hate-boner for Steam because 'muh DRM', when Epic has the same DRM situation along with Chinese influence and worse features, and is incredibly bloated already without any features.

Because Steam made this shit acceptable.
Epic is just following the trend. (Poorly) trying to copy the market leader isn't really something that deserves hate.

 

[Secret Asshole]

You're exceptional if you think Steam could get away with having no DRM and having the variety it has to the platform. Its a necessary evil. A lot of publishers will not put their games up for sale without DRM and the launcher situation would be even worse, still with DRM that might be far worse than what Valve is. Steam made DRM easy instead of developing 50 different flavors and even still some publishers pile on their own DRM on top of Steam's.

DRM on Valve is also opt-in, its not automatic. Publishers and devs can put no DRM on their game there and have it downloaded. A service without DRM offering a library as vast as Steam is a pipe dream. It is simply not going to happen. GoG manages because a lot of the titles they have licenses for, a lot of indies go there too.

You have a DRM free alternative in GoG. The reason it doesn't have more is because publishers and developers want DRM. Steam didn't 'make this shit acceptable', it was always there. So I'm tired of this 'muh DRM' argument. Its fucking autistic. Many in the gaming industry still believe piracy is a huge problem which is why the PC as a platform was ignored for so long. If Steam didn't do it, publishers would do it anyway. That's why it took a huge amount of time for Japanese games to come to PC, because of the impression of piracy and it wasn't worth it. Steam changed that. Steam wasn't just a centralized platform, it streamlined DRM. If it didn't, Steam wouldn't exist today.

If you're really that against DRM, just use GoG. You can wish all you want, but publishers and devs still want DRM on a vast majority of their games and that is not going to change.

I'm fucking tired of this stupid DRM argument. Use GoG and don't bitch, or pirate. DRM is not going away because of publishers and developers and you aren't going to get the selection of games you have without it.

 

[byuu]

You're exceptional if you think Steam could get away with having no DRM and having the variety it has to the platform. Its a necessary evil. A lot of publishers will not put their games up for sale without DRM and the launcher situation would be even worse, still with DRM that might be far worse than what Valve is. Steam made DRM easy instead of developing 50 different flavors and even still some publishers pile on their own DRM on top of Steam's.

lol don't give me the old "the evil publishers are forcing poor innocent Valve" nonsense.
Valve uses their shitty online-activation DRM for their own games - clearly they weren't forced into it there.
They do literally nothing to promote DRM-free games but instead push DRM since Steam's very beginning. Praise Gabe for giving us easy uniform DRM that just so happens to make you completely dependent on Steam.

Many in the gaming industry still believe piracy is a huge problem which is why the PC as a platform was ignored for so long

The industry also thinks used game saless are a huge problem. The industry consists of nothing but entitled babies.

If you're really that against DRM, just use GoG. You can wish all you want, but publishers and devs still want DRM on a vast majority of their games and that is not going to change.

If you're really that against Epic, just use Steam.