Several of the main team members at Retro Studios also have that on their bio, which makes me hesitant.
Honestly, that picture from Nintendo Power seems to be the only one that so many of the fans over there seem to be willing to accept. Never mind how that is from a magazine issue that’s over three decades old at this point.
Because it like the only middle ground between "Marvel wispy girl that can throw grown man (Black Widow)" and "Just a roided out women that looks like a man (classic tranny in a wig)". Some that is still a women with femnaine features but has the appropriate mount of muscle for some one that lifts/moves a ton.
The environments, enemies and graphics just felt generic. The general gameplay loop felt more like a generic action platformer with some stealth shit thrown in than you know, the genre that it gave it's name to.
I guess that's fair, but the longer I stay alive the more things feel generic. Metroid's had a lot of time to influence other games, too.
This is also fair. The game was very good at nudging the player in the right direction; I realized it was doing that after I got the speed boost, destroyed those very conspicuous speed blocks encountered earlier, and found myself dropped into an area I couldn't escape except through the teleporter. They could definitely do better in the next game. They shouldn't be so afraid to let the player get lost.
I don't know. Two of the Super Metroid screenshots involve boss fights, which I feel unfairly favours it here. The first screenshot of Dread has a pretty cool look, I think, given the E.M.M.I. environment. There's nearly thirty years between these screenshots.
I thought about the boss fights after I looked at the pictures but honestly I could have picked screenshots from nearly anywhere in Super Metroid and it would look unique. You've got that green underground jungle, that desert area and that blocky red area in brinstar. Norfair's got the fire caves, that weird looking bubble shit, ridley's underground temple area and so on. Every area in super metroid looks distinct from one another and there's not really many other games that look like super metroid.
I wasn't the biggest fan of the metroid 2 remake but even it managed to make things look more unique.
Didn't Retro want to implement bounties in Prime 2 and got told that it was a mistranslation and she was really a mercenary?
Nope, dumber than that!
That's actually correct.
The Japanese devs did not understand what a bounty hunter is. They actually believed Samus being a bounty hunter meant she was a mother figure with a heart of gold.
That is one of the biggest reasons citing the Japanese devs about their intentions regarding Metroid is hilariously stupid.
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Yeah, and the upgrade that was from the first two games is at least as big as the difference between Super and Dread.
Maybe Super Metroid doing it first gave it a big advantage that later games can't have. It's practically impossible to have an aquatic area without it being compared to Maridia now, as an example.
I didn't, but I guess I can see that.
I wanted to say that they could've differentiate the areas better, like at the Chozo statues, but I think they did that. Maybe doing something crazy with the environments like in Super Mario Wonder could work, making it look like an acid trip at times.
I never played the remake, but yeah, I don't have any disagreements there. The same team made both, however, so I wonder what went wrong, if anything.
AM2R is a better remake.
The first two games had some pretty intense hardware limitations to deal with compared to even the snes. The two GBA games are decent and unique looking. Hell my biggest comparison for Dread isn't even the other metroid games, it's contemporary metroidvania games. Look at shit like Hollow Knight, the Blasphemous games, Axiom Verge, Afterimage(even though that one's kinda janky and Chinese looking). Those games all look pretty fucking great and unique. For a series that's almost always had its own look Dread looks like complete garbage next to those.
Prime managed to do an underwater area that was fairly distinct from Maridia.
When you look at the older 2d games. They're a lot more colourful. Dread's environment colours were very muted and drab. Even Fusion with it's space station setting horror vibes was quite a colourful game.
I think they played it too safe with the art direction. I don't know what the reasoning for it was but it's almost like back in the ps2 days where gaming became very serious and everything needed to be grey and brown and serious because colours were bad and silly. Maybe it's because development on Dread started back then and that drab generic serious mindset carried through. The best part of metroid games for me is that feeling of exploring strange alien looking places. Dread just didn't really feel all that alien.
I never actually played the 3ds one. My buddy had it but it looked kinda lame and I was super salty about the bullshit nintendo pulled on am2r because of their shitty remake.
From playing dread I always got the feeling
I personally treat Hollow Knight as the sequel to Super Metroid I always wanted but never got. It doesn't even bother me that Dread is kinda meh because Hollow Knight exists. The areas in Hollow Knight at least stand out a little bit from eachother. It's usually immediately obvious which area you're in when you're playing Hollow Knight though it can be a bit samey at times as well. I find the colours are still a little more vibrant than Dread too. Especially areas like the Hive, Queen's Garden and the Crystal Mines and the sickly orange in the Infected Crossroads. It did take me a bit to actually like the graphics in Hollow Knight though. At first it reminded me of some 2000's flash game from newgrounds or something and kind of put me off.
I've played through Hollow Knight 3 times now and all three times I've played through the game in a totally different way and collected everything in a different order. I completely missed the mantis Lords fight on my first playthrough and didn't end up beating them until after I'd already beaten the Hollow Knight for the first time. Deepnest was one of the last areas I actually explored that time. Whereas last time I went and got the tram pass pretty early. I was trying to see how far I could get before going to the soul sanctum and getting the dive thing.
To me at least… dread tries to pretend like it’s not linear by having go through secret passage and entering other areas before your properly prepared… the problem being they FORCE it and make it the only solution to the problem rather than have another route or cheesing the physics to get to place a earlier than you should be it’s the Only way to go. It would be different if it was possible to skip having to encounter Emmis and being able to beat the game without it, but you have to go through each emmi thing. And they made whole scene about one skip you could do (Morph ball bombs in Kraids fight if I remember, or possibly super missiles) but it’s like the developer saying “okay you get just this one”, it’s like when a developer removes a speed running glitch in a game that obviously doesn’t break the game just makes it go faster, it’s such a buzzkill
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Super Metroid is linear because all the sequence breaks were unintentional. But Zero Mission is linear because all the sequence breaks were intentional? What's your idea of a non-linear game, then?
Well Hollow Knight does it fairly well. It never feels like you're intentionally led anywhere even though a bunch of the sequence breaks are intentional or at least they were left in rather than removed.
I wouldn't argue that sequence breaks make the games better or not. It can be fun breaking a game but it doesn't really determine the quality of the game. I was just pointing out that all the metroid games are fairly linear but some feel more linear than others for whatever reason. It's really down to a subjective feeling. Mockballing under the gates in Brinstar, grabbing the super missiles early and skipping spore spawn just feels more fun than most of the skips in Zero Mission because it feels like it's something you're not supposed to do. Kind of like how sneaking into abandoned buildings is more fun than guided tours of abandoned buildings. Whether or not it was actually intended for Samus to be able to keep her speed while morphing at exactly the right time it feels like you've done something you shouldn't.
At that point, you might as well be arguing, "I think these things are fun and these other things are not fun by my own arbitrary measure, therefore this other game that has the things I don't personally find fun is objectively bad."
I don't think I ever said anything like that in my posts but sure.
Yes. But you can't tell me having more ways to play through something isn't better.
Setting that part aside, I mean, I can go and pick back up Prime 1 at any point and enjoy it without the sequence breaks. I did for PrimeHack and I did for the MP1 remaster. You do you, I guess.
It's actually shocking how much effort autists put into that. More love than Nintendo had showed the series between 2008-2020.
I believe that was for Prime 3, they wanted a multiplayer component for the game called "Bounty Mode" I think. It would involve planet hopping to seek after targets or special objectives for upgrades (kindov like what many game have now). The mode was scrapped in the end, but I'm pretty sure Prime 3's trophy system was kindov like a leftover of that design process. You could get extras, concept art, and even bobbleheads for Samus' ship. Retro truly understood what an imposing badass Samus was, putting her into Conan the Barbarian poses and having enemies Worship Her like a Goddess in dioramas.
