Mortal Kombat Thread - GET OVER HERE!!!

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Aha!

So it wasn't a case of the Mandela effect that she looked black in MK4. That's nice to know.

I thought there'd be more comments about the truly ambiguous ones like Jade and maybe Raiden.

Spoiler: Raiden is fine as well

With Raiden it's like, I wouldn't be fazed if they made him white, but he's a Chinese rice farmer? Is it that surprising they made him Chinese? I mean he's keeping the damn hat. Why would a Japanese god that possessed the body of Billy Bob from Tennessee or Gunther from Bavaria be wearing a Chinese rice farmer hat?

But Tanya? Nah.

What is not nice is her face or her body proportions when you consider the concept art that made her look really amazing.

It just feels so weird that they're going this hard for "realism" in appearance for a game like Mortal Kombat. It makes this:

seem very hypocritical.

The issue, at least for me, is that they actually have a lot of IPs, including ones people would love to see again but they just refuse to do fuck all with.

Sorry I should've said creative teams instead of Studios. I imagine NR, Namco and Capcom have multiple IPs they can milk to eternity. The specific teams responsible for the big 3 fighting games though seem like they're just trying to justify their existence at this point. Making part 7 of anything is not a good sign, and unless you're legitimately changing the world, you really shouldn't spend 30+ years on the same project.

I was admittingly one of those autists who are about fighting games stories but I appreciate the ones that are just retarded silly fun. Mortal Kombat was certainly very corny and not taking itself too seriously but all that changed with X and went balls to the walls in 11.

They are keeping it full throttle in 12 but I wish the series would have fun with itself again aside from random quips between the characters.

I don't mind the game having a story by itself. I myself enjoy reading the wikis of old games I like, just to see the incredible amount of detail some autists managed to glean from a few paragraphs of text at the end of 90s games.
I just think going full on cinematic was dumb. Obviously you want an improvement from "a few paragraphs on a single card after beating arcade mode", but releasing a mini-series with occasional fights in-between scenes is just a waste of time and money. I think Tekken 5 struck a good balance. A couple cards with narration before the fight, do the fight, watch a cutscene after arcade is done. Simple, and leaves more time to work on the actual product: The Fighters.

I also think the story has gotten very dumb, even for Mortal Kombat standards, so it's not even time well-spent.

 

[Dynamite Ninja]

ASHRAH LOST HER HAT.

To me at least, I always saw Ashrah in Deception (costume-wise) as just Raiden with tits and a different power. So I’m kinda okay with them ditching the hat.

 

[Spit bucket]

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*
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I can't wait to fight Jax with him. A breathtaking experience just to think about honestly.

 

[Kheapathic]

I'd be lying if I said Reptile going between forms when doing attacks wasn't cool; the same with how they animated Havik doing his body shit as attacks and growing shit back. I'd also be lying if I said I didn't like how they've been doing story mode since MK9; that and the stages look great.

I'm still holding out, because I don't like the idea of Kameo only characters; or how they're pushing 7 DLC characters before launch (Shang Tsung is separate from that +6 one).

Ed Boon just needs to cash in every favor he has with Warner Brothers and make the super-violent Injustice game he really wants to make, or get the green light for whatever martial arts movie he wants to make. He needs to do that and stop putting multiple guest characters into Mortal Kombat.

That aside, what even is the story for this game other than "mismatched Avengers" and "Lin Kuei bad because Bi Han"?

Where is Shang Tsung in this? Who is the goddamn villain? What is the point to anything?

I know, there's still a bunch of weeks until release but everything feels.. Disjointed somehow.

Pure speculation follows

In the Announcement Trailer, you have Liu Kang narrating while showing different things. Then a portal appears and Shang Tsung steps out, right as the narration makes a point that even when the universe is remade, "one constant remains... there is always something worth fighting for." We then get shots of Shang Tsung murdering several of the known characters; the two male ninjas, the two female ninjas, and stealing who looks like Kung Lao's soul.

Since Time Travel/Manipulation is shit hard to do properly, I'm willing to bet Boon is taking a page out of the Bioshock book of multiple realities / constants and variables. Shang Tsung being a malevolent chaotic force is a constant, and as thus, even if Outworld is at peace (as it looks like so far), Shang Tsung is going to be the villain. And while I'm open to being called wrong and a retard; Shang Tsung's been more of a constant holding the series together more than Liu Kang has, him and plotting/scheming for his own goals, to include apparently making Kronika's Crown, because the guardian of time apparently needed the help of a "sorcerer." So Shang Tsung is gonna be revealed to be something more than just a sorcerer, as you need to be some sort of force of will to be able to resist the universe being remade. Maybe they'll go into an off-shoot of some old religions origin of the universe story, I can't say. But at best, it's gonna be Liu Kang vs Shang Tsung, again, and Shang Tsung is going to be a soul-stealing, plotting, scheming, bastard, again. There are other constants too apparently; rival ninja clans, Mileena having tainted blood, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a clear delineation between Bi-Han's Lin Kuei and the not-so-evil Lin Kuei.

And Ed should finally apologize to John and make a new series.

 

[blablabla]

Human Scorpion may be one of the dumbest things this ip has ever shat out

 

[TVB]

It's so idiotic that it's desperate

 

[ShitLurker]

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*
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Striker, doing what we wish we all could do.

I'm not as down on modern fighting games as you lot, but MK12 I'm oh hum on. Leaving aside that I find the gore tacky, the ugly stick was swung HARD on this one, leaving aside how they are pushing dlc without even knowing the full roster.

I am fine with kameos though, seems like a clever way to add a shit ton of characters without demanding full movesets and to give nods to older iterations of characters. Now the part where I'm convinced everyone will just use the same 3 is where it will get more depressing.

Hoping for an open beta I can latch on to and see how it feels.

 

[The Fair Lady]

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*
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I love that Stryker is both in and well received. He was super fun in 9 and his X-ray was one of my favorites, so I'm happy they revisited it.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

To me at least, I always saw Ashrah in Deception (costume-wise) as just Raiden with tits and a different power. So I’m kinda okay with them ditching the hat.

I must respectfully disagree. My problem stems from the fact that she looks kinda similar to Mileena and Li Mei. Same vaguely Asian face, same dark hair color, same slicked back hair and/or ponytail.

Yeah, Mileena got the mask, Li Mei got the age and makeup and Ashrah got the uh....facial stuff.

So sure, maybe not a hat but I wish they'd give some head ornament that would make her look less like a palette swap.

I suppose it could be seen as an homage to Mortal Kombat of old with the rainbow ninjas looking pretty identical or something?

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*
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I do wish we could play as him. I am an unironic Stryker fan so I'm glad to see him here at least beyond being one of Quan Chi's zombie sex slaves.

And Ed should finally apologize to John and make a new series.

I quite like your speculation really. Sounds solid but I just worry that they are gonna fuck it in the ass somehow.

And yes, Boon should apologize to Tobias. Make a new series? I'd like to see that but I doubt he can. Although...

The Last Mortal Kombatative Instruments of Thrones! Coming 2027 on PS6 if you're lucky!

Human Scorpion may be one of the dumbest things this ip has ever shat out

It's a funky situation we sit in with him.

I will admit, I quite like the evolution of his character and the friendship he had with Sub-Zero. So it felt a little cheap when he got metaphorically fucked by D'Vorah so old Scorpion would come back.

I'm still adjusting to the fact that Sub-Zero (Kuai Liang) is now Scorpion. And Hanzo is a kameo. I don't...quite get the timeline thing here...or what Liu Kang (really the NR writers) were thinking.

I love that Stryker is both in and well received. He was super fun in 9 and his X-ray was one of my favorites, so I'm happy they revisited it.

Same!

He was one of my mains in MK9 so I'm happy that he's getting attention.

Younger me remember being so fucking mad at Sinel because she went Rambo on everyone and then he got shafted when Hanzo killed Quan Chi.

 

[TVB]

The biggest thing that kinda surprises me still is people reaction to Stryker being in. I know he's just a cameo but even when he appeared on the screen at these events he got the most cheer and applause. Even lot's of people on Youtube like that he's in. Didn't think people in this day in age could separate real life from fiction.

*POLICE BRUTALITY COMING UP*
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Looks like Stryker couldn't breathe. younowutimean?

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Huh. Well I'll be. I also kinda saw Ashrah as female Raiden in the same way that Frost was female Subzero. That's my fault though as I didn't care about story at all at the time and just went off of how they looked. Now she looks pretty ugly though, even for a demon.


Stryker was one of my favorites from MK3 and he was awesome in MK9. I can't imagine there are so few people who like him that he deserves to be shafted like this.
Something just feels wrong seeing people discuss cameos by actual characters when fucking Omniman has entire costumes, movesets, entrances and witty quips dedicated to him.

It's like having a big family dinner and setting a place at the table for a stranger while cousin Eddie is only allowed to serve the food and go eat his slop in the kitchen with the rest of the help.


Also gotta second the kiwi who said the gore has gotten tacky. There's too much emphasis on it now. Now there's barely any difference between those random mid-combo x-rays, actual x-rays and fatalities. It's a lot of blood and gore just for it's own sake.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Stryker was one of my favorites from MK3 and he was awesome in MK9. I can't imagine there are so few people who like him that he deserves to be shafted like this.

It's a popular thing to hate him in the normie MK community. Disliking Stryker has become bit of a meme. Common reasons I see are that "he's lame because he got pot belly and a backwards cap (which later got turned into he looks like John Cena) " and "he's just a cop with no super powers in a series with Gods and demons and ninjas. Totes lame"

So I'm personally used to see him hated on. Imagine my elation when I find out that he's liked here.

Something just feels wrong seeing people discuss cameos by actual characters when fucking Omniman has entire costumes, movesets, entrances and witty quips dedicated to him.

It's very cringe. Actual slots that could have been given to actual characters that people wanted back and loved but instead we get Homelander.

Sonya and Kano not being playable when they are legacy characters is a crime against...something. Probably a crime against Tobias.

Also gotta second the kiwi who said the gore has gotten tacky. There's too much emphasis on it now. Now there's barely any difference between those random mid-combo x-rays, actual x-rays and fatalities. It's a lot of blood and gore just for it's own sake.

Don't forget the Fatal Blows. Gore is what MK is all about and the fatality is a special thing but it's been diluted with all the other overly long gore sequences that it's no different than all the other shit that's basically just fatality lite.

So they have to rely on comedy and homages and memes. I still cannot get over the Bohemian Rhapsody reference from one of Rain's fatalities. What the fuck was that?

 

[Nick Obre]

Jesus, I won't give any more detail but I can say that aside from the ones revealed so far, there'll be at least three (3) [1+1+1] {tres, trois, drei, 三, три} more guest characters from movies. Probably on the second kombat pack.

If it's any consolation it's not recent movies.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

It's a popular thing to hate him in the normie MK community. Disliking Stryker has become bit of a meme. Common reasons I see are that "he's lame because he got pot belly and a backwards cap (which later got turned into he looks like John Cena) " and "he's just a cop with no super powers in a series with Gods and demons and ninjas. Totes lame"

So I'm personally used to see him hated on. Imagine my elation when I find out that he's liked here.

Pot belly. I won't lie I also saw him having a potbelly back in MK3, but I later figured it was his outfit making him look that way. We know he's got a bulletproof vest under there and they can be bulky.
Besides they fixed that in MK9 so what are they bitching about exactly?
And it's funny because the whole "normie in a world of monsters" is exactly why I like him. You gotta be a tough motherfucker to have the world invaded by basically Hell and react by deciding to kick demons' asses like any other Tuesday.

This just makes me glad I never engage with any gaming "community". I've always had a core group of friends I play with offline and we like what we like. Stryker is awesome and his baton sweep is one of my favorite unique moves in the franchise.

It's very cringe. Actual slots that could have been given to actual characters that people wanted back and loved but instead we get Homelander.

Sonya and Kano not being playable when they are legacy characters is a crime against...something. Probably a crime against Tobias.

Don't forget the Fatal Blows. Gore is what MK is all about and the fatality is a special thing but it's been diluted with all the other overly long gore sequences that it's no different than all the other shit that's basically just fatality lite.

So they have to rely on comedy and homages and memes. I still cannot get over the Bohemian Rhapsody reference from one of Rain's fatalities. What the fuck was that?

I'm floored by the Sonya and Kano thing. I thought the most popular character they'd shafted was Stryker, but MK royalty? That's sad. Imagine removing Paul Phoenix from Tekken. I'm glad I never played a single minute of anything post MKX.

 

[ShitLurker]

Sonya and Kano not being playable when they are legacy characters is a crime against...something. Probably a crime against Tobias.

Has the full base roster been revealed then? I was going yo say that a character being a Kameo doesn't mean squat on them being reinvented in MK12. Scorpion is now sub zero's gay lover but you have skeletor scorpion as a kameo in there as well. But Kano and Sonnia not being in the base roster nor the first dlc is pretty mean.

 

[Rick The Stick]

At this point the only thing that would make me give a fuck about MK again is if they somehow gargled enough CapCock to get a crossover with Street Fighter. But that would never happen because CC wouldn't want their characters being mutilated, or it'd just be watered down shit like MK×DC was.

 

[Calandrino]

At this point the only thing that would make me give a fuck about MK again is if they somehow gargled enough CapCock to get a crossover with Street Fighter. But that would never happen because CC wouldn't want their characters being mutilated, or it'd just be watered down shit like MK×DC was.

Johnny Cage has a JCVD skin... if they don't have Movie Guile DLC I will probably kill myself, and not even buy the game

 

[Kheapathic]

Johnny Cage has a JCVD skin... if they don't have Movie Guile DLC I will probably kill myself, and not even buy the game

Pretty sure Capcom is very shy of remembering their movie, or the Movie Game they made.

 

[TVB]

Pretty sure Capcom is very shy of remembering their movie, or the Movie Game they made.

While it's unsurprisingly sad that Crapcum forgets about the 94 Van Damne movie, let's at least be proud that they've forgotten about Legend of Chun-Li.