Mortal Kombat Thread - GET OVER HERE!!!

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I just want to see the full game film on Youtube which is usually pretty entertaining, in the stupid shit way. The tease there is now looks alright, more low tech than what was in previous iteration

 

[DenseDeerFather]

This is off the top of my head but didn't he have a fatality in MK 9 where he puts his hands through your torso, pries it open and then does the Shining face peek thing through the hole with "here's Johnny"? Is the one in 11 just like that?

I hate to be all Reddit-like and pull an "ACKSHULLY" but he did not have a fatality like that in 9.

I do have to "ACKSHULLY" myself here because he did actually have it in 10.

I suppose this was the beginning of the pop culture infestation of MK considering X also got filled up the ass with movie characters.

Having refreshed my meory, his fatalities are actually far better in 11 and he did not have such a cringe one like in X.

 

[Psyduck]

Feels like we've seen all there is to Fatalities by now. There's only so many times i can see explosions/bisections/eyeball piercing/decapitations and the like before it all starts to blend in together

 

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mk2 fatalities are gruesomer. now is just a fucking charicature

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Feels like we've seen all there is to Fatalities by now. There's only so many times i can see explosions/bisections/eyeball piercing/decapitations and the like before it all starts to blend in together

mk2 fatalities are gruesomer. now is just a fucking charicature

It's been talked about before in this thread but on top of that, they also added a bunch of other gore moves like Fatal Blows and Xrays and whatever else and it all bleeds together to the point where fatalities are eh.

Unless they rely on caricatures or weird references.

Also I've probably said this before, I actually hate the Xray moves in 12. They are so long and dragging.

Iirc people were mixed on their inclusion in 9 but those were magical compared to what we have now. Short and sweet. Straight to the point without interrupting the gameplay.

What the fuck happened?

Was it worth it, devs who appearantly got Ptsd from working on 11? Was it?

 

[kadoink]

Huh...Someone on the character design team has a thing for women wearing high heels and skin tight catsuits or something. Makes me miss the old Halloween store costumes they used to wear in the original games cause as silly as those were it felt less homogenized. The character designs in this game go from bland to sterile really quick.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Huh...Someone on the character design team has a thing for women wearing high heels and skin tight catsuits or something. Makes me miss the old Halloween store costumes they used to wear in the original games cause as silly as those were it felt less homogenized. The character designs in this game go from bland to sterile really quick.

Latex burqas.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

I hate to be all Reddit-like and pull an "ACKSHULLY" but he did not have a fatality like that in 9.

I do have to "ACKSHULLY" myself here because he did actually have it in 10.

I suppose this was the beginning of the pop culture infestation of MK considering X also got filled up the ass with movie characters.

Having refreshed my meory, his fatalities are actually far better in 11 and he did not have such a cringe one like in X.

Aaaah thanks for the correction. I knew I'd seen it in one of the games I'd played before and was surprised that they would just repeat it in the newer ones.

Also I saw some posts earlier talking about horned Shao Khan and didn't know what you guys were talking about. I swear I saw this:

and just assumed it was Motaro and scrolled past without giving it a second thought.
Just watched the trailer for the first time and oh my god he looks like shit. The voice though, I think is not horrible, but is a bit too monstrous. I admit it's a nitpick but older Shao Khan sounded human, but had a bass to his voice that was otherworldly. This one sounds like a beast or an alien (think Vulkanus from Ben 10), but just close enough to the old one where it's only a slight annoyance for me.

Wtf is up with all the Asian women having the same face? It feels like they spent all the money on story and useless gore and left nothing for the character designs, but Tanya's design implies they put a lot of effort into making this look so bad.
Hell even Liu Kang looks kinda gay. Only one that looks decent is Johnny Cage, and that's because you can't fuck up "guy in button down shirt+pants+sunglasses".

Also I might be wrong here, but from what I'm seeing it looks like they're trying to blend the cut scenes into the fight scenes more smoothly, which if I'm right cheapens the gore even more. The example I'm using is the KenShi vs Johnny Cage part. It's really difficult to tell where the cutscenes end and the fights start, which normally would be amazing progress, but for a game like MK (or at least this MK), it'll be jarring to watch Cage get sliced into (hyper realistic anatomically correct) pieces and then smoothly transition to a cutscene where he just has scuff marks on his face.

 

[Rick The Stick]

it'll be jarring to watch Cage get sliced into (hyper realistic anatomically correct) pieces and then smoothly transition to a cutscene where he just has scuff marks on his face.

This has been an issue with story scenes since they introduced in game battle damage in 9. You sit there beating the fuck out of someone so hard they have bits of bone exposed and huge chunks of flesh ripped/hanging off, all while hitting them with xray/fatal blows that shatter their skulls and have blades pierce their hearts: then a split second later they're perfectly fine. Not a scuff on them. Carrying on a wise cracking convo or having a poorly animated fight scene that feels like they haven't improved since the intro to Deadly Alliance/Deception.

These fuckers have been so hyper focused on realistic gore porn and hyper detailed models that they've neglected everything else that they desperately want back pats for. Sure the gore and models are impressive, but they're uncreative and same faced respectively. The battle damage is neat but it breaks all immersion when you enter a cutscene and everyone is fine. The xrays and fatal blows are cool but take away from the fatalities/brutalities. The list could go on and on.

 

[Kheapathic]

Latex burqas.

Gimme General Shao Kahn needing an army of sexy women, so he takes all the female ninjas and tries to clone them or whatever; and as a result, we get Mileena, Kitana, Jade, and Li Mei all with Mileena's MK9 bandage outfit. That was one of the best outfits ever, and we only got it for one game.

That aside, I'm unironically worried about the storyline. Because if Kronika is back, and she knows that Shang Tsung is capable of so much more... we have a Chrono Phantasma. Someone who can exist outside of the time line and retains knowledge and free will. Congratulations Boon, you've written yourself into the corner of "None of this matters," and nothing personal, you do not have the ability to write a happy ending; there are no happy endings in this situation, because everyone or the one important person dies to set everything right. Ragna was able to defeat the Imperator, save Saya, and sacrificed himself so others could have a happy life. Liu Kang already killed Kronika, and she's already back to scheming and starting trouble; the fuck are you gonna do besides have endless wars and battles until the bad guys eventually win and subjugate all the realms/timelines?

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Kronika

This part kinda confuses. Since she died at the end of 11 and her powers got split between Liu Kang and Shang to the Tsung respectively, why is she back? What would she add?

Shang literally built her crown, what the fuck does he need her for?

Why is this convoluted shit in my Mortal Kombat game? If I want to destroy my brain with wacky plots, I'll play Fate or Kingdom hearts

 

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the story doesnt need to be more complicated that monster from hell want to destroy the earth. but they faggy that up with legit retarded takes on social commentary

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

This has been an issue with story scenes since they introduced in game battle damage in 9. You sit there beating the fuck out of someone so hard they have bits of bone exposed and huge chunks of flesh ripped/hanging off, all while hitting them with xray/fatal blows that shatter their skulls and have blades pierce their hearts: then a split second later they're perfectly fine. Not a scuff on them. Carrying on a wise cracking convo or having a poorly animated fight scene that feels like they haven't improved since the intro to Deadly Alliance/Deception.

Yeah I noticed it back then as well, but it was a bit easier to stomach when there was a clear difference in animation from fight to cut scene. With this new style it's gonna look even dumber.

Best case scenario is a hard cut to a dead opponent (lest we forget the name of the game is MORTAL Kombat) or an MK 2 style card with text and then on to the next battle.

I said it in an earlier post but I believe the absolute best balance is the Tekken 5 format with a pre-fight cutscene, full fight with all the damage and shit, and then either a post-fight cut scene with the beaten opponent on the ground or a comic panel with text and narration. You really don't need more than that. If you do there are tie-in comics, movies and shows, which would get more patronage if they didn't turn the game into a movie.

Gimme General Shao Kahn needing an army of sexy women, so he takes all the female ninjas and tries to clone them or whatever; and as a result, we get Mileena, Kitana, Jade, and Li Mei all with Mileena's MK9 bandage outfit. That was one of the best outfits ever, and we only got it for one game.

That aside, I'm unironically worried about the storyline. Because if Kronika is back, and she knows that Shang Tsung is capable of so much more... we have a Chrono Phantasma. Someone who can exist outside of the time line and retains knowledge and free will. Congratulations Boon, you've written yourself into the corner of "None of this matters," and nothing personal, you do not have the ability to write a happy ending; there are no happy endings in this situation, because everyone or the one important person dies to set everything right. Ragna was able to defeat the Imperator, save Saya, and sacrificed himself so others could have a happy life. Liu Kang already killed Kronika, and she's already back to scheming and starting trouble; the fuck are you gonna do besides have endless wars and battles until the bad guys eventually win and subjugate all the realms/timelines?

This is what turning your cool transgressive fighting game into "The Last of Us but with fireballs" leads to: A bunch of nonsensical plotholes that overshadow the core theme of the game-Killing people.

But I'll add my own overthinking to the mix:

Spoiler: Story Shit

To those who actually know the story of MK 11, is there any reason Liu Kang didn't just end the Mortal Kombat shit? Having the power to rewrite time and then doing the equivalent of swapping yourself and Raiden seems really really retarded. That's like if Maximus won the Gladiator games and rather than pushing for freeing gladiators and pushing for reforms, he just became the Emperor and kept the games going or Neo becoming the architect after Revolutions or something dumb like that.
For all the power he seems to have gained, all he's actually gained is the power to choose who fights for earth realm while the same old forces of evil are running around causing chaos.
I get that the answer is "then there would be no game", and to that I say:
1. Then don't fuck up your story with retarded out of left field gods like Kronika and Cetrion (And Geras. Seriously wtf is he and why does even fit in this world?) or reboot your franchise with time travel you fucking idiots!!
2. Surely they understand you don't need to repeat the exact same story to have characters fight each other? Just off the top of my head you could have Sonya become a bloodthirsty military tyrant who wants to take over all realms, or a random Outworld ruler launch an assault on Earth. In both cases the response would be a Greek style "Champion vs Champion" contest and boom you've got Mortal Kombat. Hell it could just be the various characters responding to the threat from wherever they are on earth and it's the same result.
Why does it have to always be Shao Khan or Kronika or Shang Tsung as some universal constant that exists outside of time (And what makes Tsung so special when Khan and Kronika also seem immune to Kang's powers)? Hell if you must have Shao Khan in the game, why not spice it up and make him an antihero who will resist any tyrant that isn't him?

the story doesnt need to be more complicated that monster from hell want to destroy the earth. but they faggy that up with legit retarded takes on social commentary

Makers of modern games are too obsessed with looking good and filling up 100GBs of memory. Back when entire games occupied 3MB, this was all you needed:

 

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unironically better art direction than this shit

 

[The handsome tard]

This is off the top of my head but didn't he have a fatality in MK 9 where he puts his hands through your torso, pries it open and then does the Shining face peek thing through the hole with "here's Johnny"? Is the one in 11 just like that?

It was Shao Kahn's and it was its own bad ass thing with him ripping you vertically while staining himself with blood all over.

Johnny had a similar one in X where he just rips a hole in your chest and says "Here's Johnny!"

The Shao Kahn version is better

 

[Spit bucket]

The only thing I'd genuinely want out of the story mode is that it focuses on the TOURNAMENT. LIKE THE TITLE OF THE GAME!!??? I've been trying to play MK11 and the story is horrendous. The only thing that I've liked from it was Scorpion and Subzero being bros. After that I started to skip the cutscenes cause I couldn't give to fucks about anything that was happening. The last thing I got to was Kitana being named Empress of Outworld. I'm manged to finnish MKX years ago but I cannot stand Mk11. Though it was my first MK game so maybe I had more tolerance for the story. Almost done with 9's story and it's the best of the NRS series. I'd like to play Deception since I hear that's the best story of the 3D era.

 

[ShitlordroltihS]

To the retards who pre-ordered the game.
How was the beta compared to MK9,X,11?

 

[TVB]

To the retards who pre-ordered the game.
How was the beta compared to MK9,X,11?

I didn't preorder it and I never will

 

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Wait until you see what they're doing with Havik. Literal anarcho-communist revolutionary.

who the fuck is havik lmao every single character introduced after 3 is fucking trash

 

[DenseDeerFather]

The only thing I'd genuinely want out of the story mode is that it focuses on the TOURNAMENT. LIKE THE TITLE OF THE GAME!!??? I've been trying to play MK11 and the story is horrendous. The only thing that I've liked from it was Scorpion and Subzero being bros. After that I started to skip the cutscenes cause I couldn't give to fucks about anything that was happening. The last thing I got to was Kitana being named Empress of Outworld. I'm manged to finnish MKX years ago but I cannot stand Mk11. Though it was my first MK game so maybe I had more tolerance for the story. Almost done with 9's story and it's the best of the NRS series. I'd like to play Deception since I hear that's the best story of the 3D era.

Actually a very good point. Like the whole thing of mortal kombat was the goddamn tournament. Sure it doesn't need to be the brain child of Shao to the Kahn, Shang Cary Tsung and eventually Quan Chi before he got his nuts kicked by Sonya every time. In fact I'd like it if they changed it up. There's a lot you can do with it if you actually try.

So what is this avengers / lord of the rings epic civil war fantasy shit doings here then?

I like 9s story mode, I enjoyed its retarded moments too. I liked that even if it had its epic fantasy moments, the tournament was also a huge plot point, being the reason why the elder gods are so useless for example.

X is just teen titans and 11 is...well it had the Sub-zero / Scorpion bromance which I enjoyed.

Which makes me just a notch worried about what 12 is gonna be and exactly why Liu Kang is hoarding random people like a crazy cat lady.