NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[AnOminous]

SJW men think, when the Feminazis take power and start up the Thousand Year SJW Reich, they'll be house slaves and have cushy lives while all non-woke men will end up field slaves that are worked to death as chattel or sent to the gas chamber.

And who will be the guys with guns who enforce this bullshit anyway?

These troon dreams begin and end with their inability to understand the concept of force and its necessity in establishing and maintaining any kind of social order.

 

[DriveByTrolling]

He’s married with a daughter, he’s going to be that creepy dad who’s trying really hard to not be creepy around his daughter’s friends but fails.

History will not remember these parents kindly.

Imagine being the kid that grows up one day and then discovers how pathetic your dad was on the internet?

Not many lolcows have considered this if they manage to have children. The internet doesn't forget.

Attention Required!

Not approving of fucking animals is kink-shaming, so fucking animals is more acceptable than linking to Colin Moriarty on Resetera

 

[scathefire]

Saying that bestiality/zoophilia is a bad thing is now "kink-shaming". What else will soon get you banned for shaming? Necrophilia? Murder fetishes? Pedophi--

 

[DriveByTrolling]

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So Resetera's white Jussie Smollett, not to be confused with DigitalOp, is on the forum stating Destiny doesn't do enough because he's not at "the rallies" and he's "not organizing".

This is the same RedMercury who cannot even let his own wife know he is posting all this fake shit on Resetera

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/post-4506518

I'm not defending lolcow Destiny, just pointing to the absolute delusion of boredJonathan when he signs into his Resetera account and decides to tell the rest of the world how to live while he does fuck all himself.

 

[Charlie Delicious]

The excessive amount of thought policing on ERA always blows my mind.

All opinions must be personally approved by the moderation team! Enjoy!

 

[DriveByTrolling]

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Do these people even know what a white supremacist is? This is why exceptionalism on this scale can move from being funny to being dangerous. Completely making up what a term means by boiling it down to "a person I don't like". Behaving like book burning authoritarians "Never, ever, link to him". Is that some sort of threat?



Just like they call PDP a Nazi and claim he's responsible for the mosque shooting.

It's like watching a science experiment go totally wrong in front of you. You want to try and do something to fix the problem, but the mess is fascinating to watch play out.

Resetera is like playing a game of The Sims, where you want and actively encourage your Sims to keep fucking up because it's entertaining to watch.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

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Do these people even know what a white supremacist is? This is why exceptionalism on this scale can move from being funny to being dangerous. Completely making up what a term means by boiling it down to "a person I don't like". Behaving like book burning authoritarians "Never, ever, link to him". Is that some sort of threat?



Just like they call PDP a Nazi and claim he's responsible for the mosque shooting.

It's like watching a science experiment go totally wrong in front of you. You want to try and do something to fix the problem, but the mess is fascinating to watch play out.

Resetera is like playing a game of The Sims, where you want and actively encourage your Sims to keep fucking up because it's entertaining to watch.

These idiots think "out of sight out of mind" makes for good policy, instead of driving shitty ideology into the dirt to die it forces it underground where it will fester and emerge a monster.

On one hand the libertarians and conservatives are willing to debate and discuss policy with everybody, and in the other the progressives and liberals refuse to discuss anything and would rather book burn, ban, and declare things settled.

Nothing "radicalizes" me more than being attacked for being a white male libertarian.

 

[DriveByTrolling]

These idiots think "out of sight out of mind" makes for good policy, instead of driving shitty ideology into the dirt to die it forces it underground where it will fester and emerge a monster.

On one hand the libertarians and conservatives are willing to debate and discuss policy with everybody, and in the other the progressives and liberals refuse to discuss anything and would rather book burn, ban, and declare things settled.

Nothing "radicalizes" me more than being attacked for being a white male libertarian.

Colin Moriarty is a vanilla Conservative too, someone who is actually as centrist or non-extreme as they come. Pretty much for all the progressive values Era wants like LGBT and IIRC even abortion, but he isn't censorious, thinks jokes are okay and will speak to people of all backgrounds.

If you don't agree with Colin on something, he'll debate and argue with you, not call for you to be deplatformed and/or say you are literally Hitler.

When that is extreme in the eyes of a loud group growing in size, you have a problem. The Overton window is shifting to such a large degree. It does start to piss people off and cause them to lash out.

 

[Dreamland]

Colin Moriarty is a vanilla Conservative too, someone who is actually as centrist or non-extreme as they come. Pretty much for all the progressive values Era wants like LGBT and IIRC even abortion, but he isn't censorious, thinks jokes are okay and will speak to people of all backgrounds.

So he's literally a nazi, got it.

So Resetera's white Jussie Smollett, not to be confused with DigitalOp, is on the forum stating Destiny doesn't do enough because he's not at "the rallies" and he's "not organizing".

Why do they bother even condescending him after trolling and banning his ass? You'd think that manlet stopped listening and will never return there anymore.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

So he's literally a nazi, got it.

Why do they bother even condescending him after trolling and banning his ass? You'd think that manlet stopped listening and will never return there anymore.

Worth reposting, because fuck that midget asshole and his "but if the CP already exists and the victim consents, why couldn't we use it to mitigate future paedophilia?" opinion.

 

[StarryGreenEyes95]

Not sure if good or bad, but ResetERA lost all of it's threads. Would around the grapevine is people like you guys eavesdropping on their threads. Lol

Nice one. Place wound up being worse than NeoGAF.

 

[moocow]

Not sure if good or bad, but ResetERA lost all of it's threads. Would around the grapevine is people like you guys eavesdropping on their threads. Lol

Nice one. Place wound up being worse than NeoGAF.

Looks fine to me (well, it looks like REEEEsetera, so that's relative).

 

[Judge Dredd]

Collin should comment on random tweets ResetEra links to so they're forced to delete the links.

These idiots think "out of sight out of mind" makes for good policy, instead of driving shitty ideology into the dirt to die it forces it underground where it will fester and emerge a monster.

It's not even "out of sight out of mind", they genuinely seem to believe that if it's not in their Twitter time line it's not happening. After the mass deplatforming of Milo and Info Wars, they genuinely believe that these people are gone and no longer relevant. The recent thread that revealed Agony was a success genuinely seemed to surprise some of them. It's more like "out of sight out of reality".

Colin Moriarty is a vanilla Conservative too, someone who is actually as centrist or non-extreme as they come. Pretty much for all the progressive values Era wants like LGBT and IIRC even abortion, but he isn't censorious, thinks jokes are okay and will speak to people of all backgrounds.

If you don't agree with Colin on something, he'll debate and argue with you, not call for you to be deplatformed and/or say you are literally Hitler.

When that is extreme in the eyes of a loud group growing in size, you have a problem. The Overton window is shifting to such a large degree. It does start to piss people off and cause them to lash out.

Colin is like Jim Sterling in that his opinions are ones of convenience. He was the guy who started the whole "entitled gamer" meme by saying if you didn't like Mass Effect 3s ending you were entitled. An unironic version of the RedLetterMedia "consume product and be excited for next product" corperate shill. When he was fired from IGN for making a "sexist" joke, he suddenly became a pro-consumer gaming pundit on YouTube ranting about game journalism corruption and how free speech is important. I'm sure his sudden firing and his sudden change of heart are completely organic and unrelated.

Also, he's friends with Jim Sterling so I guess Jim will have to go on the "do not link to" list.

 

[DriveByTrolling]

Collin should comment on random tweets ResetEra links to so they're forced to delete the links.


It's not even "out of sight out of mind", they genuinely seem to believe that if it's not in their Twitter time line it's not happening. After the mass deplatforming of Milo and Info Wars, they genuinely believe that these people are gone and no longer relevant. The recent thread that revealed Agony was a success genuinely seemed to surprise some of them. It's more like "out of sight out of reality".


Colin is like Jim Sterling in that his opinions are ones of convenience. He was the guy who started the whole "entitled gamer" meme by saying if you didn't like Mass Effect 3s ending you were entitled. An unironic version of the RedLetterMedia "consume product and be excited for next product" corperate shill. When he was fired from IGN for making a "sexist" joke, he suddenly became a pro-consumer gaming pundit on YouTube ranting about game journalism corruption and how free speech is important. I'm sure his sudden firing and his sudden change of heart are completely organic and unrelated.

Also, he's friends with Jim Sterling so I guess Jim will have to go on the "do not link to" list.

Yeah, it's not that I particularly like Colin or his content, it's just I wanted to point out thinking Colin fucking Moriarty is some extremist is the levels of exceptionalism we've reached.

Everyone can still discuss how much of a shill or lolcow he is, but that's different from Resetera thinking he's a white supremacist.

Attention Required!

 

[Herbert West Reanimator]

When the intro to a game says "this is not a fascist-friendly game", there are two available possibilities.

1. It's true. The designers actually, somehow, deliberately created a game whose mechanics, setting, lore, etc. are intended specifically to piss off people who have specific political views. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

2. It's false. Whoever wrote that included it solely as a virtue signal to get social justice brownie points, and it isn't actually an accurate indicator of content. Like most virtue signals, it'll end up chasing willing players away while luring in no additional support. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

This is what GamerGate meant by "keep politics out of our games". Games should not be propaganda tools or virtue-signaling vectors for political shills. If you're using games for such a purpose, you're doing it wrong, and you should be removed.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

When the intro to a game says "this is not a fascist-friendly game", there are two available possibilities.

1. It's true. The designers actually, somehow, deliberately created a game whose mechanics, setting, lore, etc. are intended specifically to piss off people who have specific political views. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

2. It's false. Whoever wrote that included it solely as a virtue signal to get social justice brownie points, and it isn't actually an accurate indicator of content. Like most virtue signals, it'll end up chasing willing players away while luring in no additional support. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

This is what GamerGate meant by "keep politics out of our games". Games should not be propaganda tools or virtue-signaling vectors for political shills. If you're using games for such a purpose, you're doing it wrong, and you should be removed.

I will say there's nothing inherently wrong with art being used to make a political point. Plenty of great books, movies, music, tv shows, etc. have had a very explicitly political point and there's no reason games should be any different. It's tacking random political shit into otherwise nonpolitical avenues where the issue comes in.

For comparison, if I go to see Rage Against the Machine and they start ranting about Trump, I have no right to get mad. They've made their views clear and I went in knowing that was a possibility. If I go see, say, Barry Manilow and he does the same thing I'm gonna be more annoyed.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Yeah, it's not that I particularly like Colin or his content, it's just I wanted to point out thinking Colin fucking Moriarty is some extremist is the levels of exceptionalism we've reached.

Everyone can still discuss how much of a shill or lolcow he is, but that's different from Resetera thinking he's a white supremacist.

I didn't mean to sperg, just pointing out that Colin might not be 100% sincere in his views. For what it's worth, Colin was on their side until he was fired for wrongthink.

Does he want a list? Because I could give him a list. I'm sure most of the people in this thread could name at least one game ruined by SJWs.

This incomplete list is a good place to start.

 

[Dreamland]

When the intro to a game says "this is not a fascist-friendly game", there are two available possibilities.

1. It's true. The designers actually, somehow, deliberately created a game whose mechanics, setting, lore, etc. are intended specifically to piss off people who have specific political views. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

2. It's false. Whoever wrote that included it solely as a virtue signal to get social justice brownie points, and it isn't actually an accurate indicator of content. Like most virtue signals, it'll end up chasing willing players away while luring in no additional support. Translation: get the fuck out of the game industry, you fucking hacks.

This is what GamerGate meant by "keep politics out of our games". Games should not be propaganda tools or virtue-signaling vectors for political shills. If you're using games for such a purpose, you're doing it wrong, and you should be removed.

Has there been any market research about the effect of targeting products to the socially just? I would like to see if it matters and whether it backfires or not. I mean they can't be just doing it all just out of fear of Schreier and Grayson calling Baba is You, or Rainworld out for having a "lack of a political spine" ('It's not a trump-voter murder sim like i was promised!!').

Edit: Thanks for the info @Judge Dredd !

 

[Herbert West Reanimator]

I will say there's nothing inherently wrong with art being used to make a political point. Plenty of great books, movies, music, tv shows, etc. have had a very explicitly political point and there's no reason games should be any different. It's tacking random political shit into otherwise nonpolitical avenues where the issue comes in.

For comparison, if I go to see Rage Against the Machine and they start ranting about Trump, I have no right to get mad. They've made their views clear and I went in knowing that was a possibility. If I go see, say, Barry Manilow and he does the same thing I'm gonna be more annoyed.

Having a work that makes a political point is fine, but no one would describe e.g. BioShock with the line "this is not an objectivist-friendly game". It's not black-and-white that way. It critiques without bludgeoning. It makes a point instead of forcing you to ingest the point. The difference between art with a message and a message masquerading as art should be pretty obvious: the former can be enjoyed whether you agree with the message or not, whereas the latter's whole reason for being is to get you to agree with it, your engagement be damned.

By way of contrast in the realm of VtM, there's been an image going around featuring a relatively newly turned Kindred who happens to be black and whose campaign for "minority rights" has bridged over into his vampiric existence. That's an interesting story setup. That character could have all manner of internal conflicts as his personal principles conflict with his inner bloodlust. I very much doubt that those opportunities will be used with appropriate evenness, given that the devs of Bloodlines 2 are "taking a stand" on "right and wrong" which evokes the exact opposite of the shades-of-gray treatment this subject begs for; my point, though, is that (if handled correctly) this is how you add politics. Regardless of whether I agree with the creator's presumed belief that "in reality minorities are being actively oppressed", I can enjoy this separate world on its own terms, and the principles employed therein may rub off on my own.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Having a work that makes a political point is fine, but no one would describe e.g. BioShock with the line "this is not an objectivist-friendly game". It's not black-and-white that way. It critiques without bludgeoning. It makes a point instead of forcing you to ingest the point. The difference between art with a message and a message masquerading as art should be pretty obvious: the former can be enjoyed whether you agree with the message or not, whereas the latter's whole reason for being is to get you to agree with it, your engagement be damned.

By way of contrast in the realm of VtM, there's been an image going around featuring a relatively newly turned Kindred who happens to be black and whose campaign for "minority rights" has bridged over into his vampiric existence. That's an interesting story setup. That character could have all manner of internal conflicts as his personal principles conflict with his inner bloodlust. I very much doubt that those opportunities will be used with appropriate evenness, given that the devs of Bloodlines 2 are "taking a stand" on "right and wrong" which evokes the exact opposite of the shades-of-gray treatment this subject begs for; my point, though, is that (if handled correctly) this is how you add politics. Regardless of whether I agree with the creator's presumed belief that "in reality minorities are being actively oppressed", I can enjoy this separate world on its own terms, and the principles employed therein may rub off on my own.

The problem basically boils down to a pseudo-intellectual slogan being treated as gospel. It sounds smart and introspective to say "Art is inherently political" but you start noticing cracks as you define "inherent". They confuse their own perspective as "inherent" to what they're looking at. The usual handwave for that is "but humans are biased/political by nature" or "Those are just politics you agree with" which is pretty closeminded and aburd that they can't imagine concepts beyond themselves.

Yes, games like Bioshock and Metal Gear Solid exist but they aren't "all games". Not everything is an allegory for some political conflict and that's an extremely limited way to look at art.