NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[Bungus Scrungus]

They don't own 3D Realms. They own the Duke Nukem IP.

Well, they may as well own them, in that case. It's like EA owning Mario. Still, I doubt Gearbox being anywhere near the company did them any favors.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

That Disney/Sony/Spider-Man thread is already over 50 pages lol

Our good friend Imran Khan is out of job.

Imran Khan on Twitter

“My position at Game Informer was eliminated today. Thank you to all the readers, the fans who have sent me nice messages over the years, my colleagues, and everyone in the industry who made me feel welcome. You all made this the best experience of my life.”

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As a reminder, he's a VIP member of Resetera, a gameinformer "journalist" and a proud SJW. Worst of all, he's mostly responsible for painting THQ Nordic as pedophiles apologists because they hosted an AMA on 8chan.

THQ Nordic Holds AMA On Image Board With Reputation For Child Pornography

The company has apologized and insisted they did not investigate it beforehand.

www.gameinformer.com

The Industry Refuses To Hold Itself Accountable And THQ Nordic Proves It

THQ Nordic showed this week that we all move on and forget faster and faster.

www.gameinformer.com

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"I intend to keep following up". Out of job four months later.

I saw a joke on The Bore about how THQNordic had him taken out for getting too close to the truth. I have decided to also facetiously support this theory.

They had him silenced.

 

[Jaimas]

SgtMarkIV of Brutal Doom fame called out ResetEra by name on the Ion Fury steam forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/562860/discussions/0/2763442118825066622/ (https://archive.vn/Ffrrz)

Holy shit, and MarkIV is someone whose opine carries weight. If he cares enough to chime in, you damn well better know that pretty much every single oldfag who follows his content is going to listen. He even flat-out shit-talks some asshole who tries to dismiss him as "that dude that got banned from ZDoom's Forums":

Then you would love seeing that thread with your own eyes, and seeing the forum mod Wildweasel telling the person in question to "go find a place where people would care about it, such as Twitter" before locking the thread.

Anyway, people like you are also part of the problem.

Jesus, they could not have fucked this up harder.

 

[BrunoMattei]

SgtMarkIV of Brutal Doom fame called out ResetEra by name on the Ion Fury steam forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/562860/discussions/0/2763442118825066622/ (https://archive.vn/Ffrrz)

When SgtMarkIV of all people is calling you out then you know you fucked up bad.

 

[Ledian]

Ion Fury release day: Known for being a good game that harkens back to the old days of FPSs like Doom and built on the classic Build engine with tight gameplay.
Ion Fury now: Known for censorship and bucking to a bunch of people on Twitter and RE who don't plan to ever buy or play the game. People don't care about the game itself anymore, only what the companies that made and published it did.

PR/Marketers and Boomer executives, making shitty decisions every single time.

 

[Neet Tokusatsu]

Ion Fury release day: Known for being a good game that harkens back to the old days of FPSs like Doom and built on the classic Build engine with tight gameplay.
Ion Fury now: Known for censorship and bucking to a bunch of people on Twitter and RE who don't plan to ever buy or play the game. People don't care about the game itself anymore, only what the companies that made and published it did.

PR/Marketers and Boomer executives, making shitty decisions every single time.

Not to mention that this whole fiasco most likely has tarnished the developer's name from now on, i mean, even if Voidpoint try distance themselves from 3DRealms (the one who supposedly made them to censor Ion Fury) and try to make a new game, i doubt anyone will care

 

[BrunoMattei]

Not to mention that this whole fiasco most likely has tarnished the developer's name from now on, i mean, even if Voidpoint try distance themselves from 3DRealms (the one who supposedly made them to censor Ion Fury) and try to make a new game, i doubt anyone will care

Only option they have is to throw 3DRealms under the bus. Which might burn some bridges.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I imagine fans actually interested in the type of game Ion Fury is and anything similar the developers do are going to be more forgiving than the people who never intended on buying the game but stoked their own outrage for a weekend.

There's still gobs of people who bought the game, enjoyed it and don't give a shit about any of this. Even a lot of people giving negative reviews say they like the game they just don't like how this went down. A lot of those people are still going to want to see the next game even if they might hold off on purchasing immediately and especially preordering.

The type of developer that tells you to just go ahead and pirate their game is not really the type of developer to hold their fanbase in contempt. I wouldn't look too deeply into the actions of 3D Realms and Steam Forum Mods (who do not necessarily have to work for the company of the game) or even some minor texture edits as being greater than the overall picture of their work.

They might even be able to self-publish their next title anyway.

 

[kaien]

Well, they may as well own them, in that case. It's like EA owning Mario. Still, I doubt Gearbox being anywhere near the company did them any favors.

Nah, the result of the Duke Nukem deal was that 3D Realms doesn't actually have anything to do with Duke anymore. They're officially the co-developer of Duke Nukem Forever because one of the conditions of the deal with Gearbox was that DNF had to be released, or anyway something with the name "Duke Nukem Forever" on it, but aside from some petty legal wrangling that followed that was the end of it.

3D Realms is now owned by some Danish investment company.

 

[someweebname]

3drealms has been worthless for so many years they didn't even know what to do with an actual honest to goodness chance at redemption. Anyone wanna take bets on how long stunning and brave keep the lights on?

 

[Herbert West Reanimator]

You don't actually go and just say "pirate our game" if you're just some corporate dickrider.

The type of developer that tells you to just go ahead and pirate their game is not really the type of developer to hold their fanbase in contempt.

This is how I am confident that Voidpoint is the good guy here. The only developers I've ever seen say "just pirate it! we want you to play it!" have been developers that truly believe in what they're doing, that aren't in it for money but for the love of the game. They didn't want politics in any of this. This is 3DRealms kicking Voidpoint's knees in from behind, and unfortunately, if 3DRealms is to hurt for what it's doing, Voidpoint has to hurt too. The only way to the middleman is through his lackeys.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

HG101 has been shit for a while. Nearly every recent article of theirs I read has some form of handwringing or fart huffing involving the usual topics.

HG101 was much better when John Sketz wrote for them. Then he went to Japan, was scammed by Agnes Kaku, and stopped writing nearly at all.

As for REEEEEEERA, how much influence do they actually have? Does anyone who gets CANCELED actually care?

 

[CIA Nigger]

Ion Fury release day: Known for being a good game that harkens back to the old days of FPSs like Doom and built on the classic Build engine with tight gameplay.
Ion Fury now: Known for censorship and bucking to a bunch of people on Twitter and RE who don't plan to ever buy or play the game. People don't care about the game itself anymore, only what the companies that made and published it did.

PR/Marketers and Boomer executives, making shitty decisions every single time.

Ion Fury (along with the XBLA indie Exodus of 2011-13, high profile cancellations like Prey 2 or Star Wars 1313 due to publisher meddling, games being deplatformed because publishers dropped them, and more) is going to be known as an example of why the publisher model for gaming is cancerous. The new 3d realms owners had been trying to reinvent the brand as a trendy indie publisher. While 3d Realms as of late had been known for licensing out their other IP (mainly Shadow Warrior and ROTT) to third parties to make remakes/sequels, Ion Fury was looking like it was going to be a massive smash hit and for a few days it was.

Ion Fury had everything needed to be a success. It had the authentic original 90s fps engine (but modified), it had the big boomer shooter guys on YouTube making rave reviews, and it's Steam reviews were "overwhelmingly positive". Not initially caving to ResetEra was also good PR as more people knew about the game.

Now Ion Fury will be seen (among gamers online) as one of the biggest gaming PR disasters this decade, and this decade has had quite a few of them. One decision intended to appease the mob instead of trying to ride the storm out caused the game to go from a top selling game that gamers loved to a reviewbombed poorly selling disaster.

In the last 24 hours alone, Ion Fury has fallen out of the topseller list on Steam to be somewhere around Page 8 at this time (even CoD is outselling it), had the forums go on lockdown, was reviewbombed and refunded to oblivion (possible because owners were doing this), has had some truly sad damage control attempts like "It's not censorship we're editing one texture", and has had one of the most famous Doom modders criticize the censorship. To top it all off, someone using the Voidpoint Twitter account even encouraged pirating the game. Regardless of if it's a last ditch effort to save face or the account owner blinking twice to tell people 3d Realms is pulling the strings, it shows that people inside that developer are pissed off at the whole situation.

The cherry on top? Resetera and the woke troon mob won't buy Ion Fury still. Donating $10k to a mob approved charity, sending their devs through sensitivity training, and censoring the game still isn't enough. Nope, it's just a "step in the right direction" as other troons call for them to be fired and blacklisted from the gaming industry.

 

[Particle Bored]

Can a publisher even force an un-owned dev to implement sensitivity training after a contract has already been signed?

 

[Jaimas]

I noticed something very interesting just now.

Esentially every game that refused to kowtow to the outrage mob of ResetERA has gone on to be successful. A Hat In Time (Jontron), Bloodstained (Miriam being "too sexy), MGSV (Quiet), Deliverance (WHY ARE THERE NO BLACK PEOPLE IN MEDIEVAL HUNGARY), Star Control (GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE) and many, many more. Even back in the day, games that ignored these insipid fucks succeeded: Hatred comes readily to mind.

Conversely almost every game that has bowed to them specifically has suffered for it economically.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Can a publisher even force an un-owned dev to implement sensitivity training after a contract has already been signed?

There's probably a "we can do anything we feel is necessary to mitigate civil lawsuits" clause. While I don't see them being sued over anything, I could see that as some kind of justification for forcing diversity training on someone.

 

[Humble Shitpost Merchant]

Ion Fury is now down to Mixed, and the controversy has now completely overshadowed the game.

The most ResetERA could manage was a percentage point and some salty forum posts. It's a good study in Before and After, and exactly who is safer to pander to.

 

[Herbert West Reanimator]

If a blowout example of who has the power in the industry is what we end up getting out of this, I'm more than willing to sacrifice every last scrap of hope for an old-school FPS revival. Kill it dead right here, right now, if that's what it takes to nail this particular notice to the industry's collective door.

 

[School of Fish]

There really isn't anything incorrect or 'bigoted' about the Ion Fury game developers saying that forcing someone to be trans against their will is wrong and there is a real life tragic example that shows why ResetEra are complete morons.

Do you know the tragic tale of David Reimer? See David Reimer was part of a horrible experiment conducted by a sick fuck named 'John Money' and when David Reimer was born he had a deformed penis after a failed circumcision procedure in which later on his penis was then cut off and he was then reassigned as a female after John Money would recommended the sex reassignment surgery to his parents and this would be the start of one of the most horrible psychology experiments ever.

So after this, John Money used both David Reimer and his identical twin brother, Brian Reimer, to prove that gender roles and gender identity are just a bunch of social constructs (Does this sound familiar?) an so David Reimer was raised as a girl and his twin brother, Brian Reimer, was simply raised as a normal boy like any other.

However, this experiment would soon end in total failure in which as David Reimer would later realize that he is a boy and would transition back to being male in his teens. In his later life, he would speak out against this type of horrible medical and psychology practices because these types of things really screwed up his life. Sadly, it was really just too late for David Reimer because the damage was already done and he would later on slip into depression, he would commit suicide with a gun, and he would be dead at the age 38 after that.

So basically ResetEra unironcally wants more of John Money's theories (which ruined lives) to be forced on everyone else and so ResetEra pretty much supports the total insanity of those sick fucks like John Money and they don't even care what this will do to people in real life because they really only just want to force their bullshit politics on everyone else and not care who suffers.

Now one thing is for sure, ResetEra should not be taken seriously by anyone ever because the only things that they do is try to ruin lives just like how the people like John Money ruined the life of David Reimer in the process. Screw ResetEra and I hope this poor excuse of a video game fourm goes up in flames someday.

David Reimer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BrunoMattei]

They might even be able to self-publish their next title anyway.

Do you even need a publisher for Steam? I was under the impression that anyone can just put a game on there.