New Gnome Code of Conduct - It's pretty bad tbh

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
Uh, these guys do know that going Woke stopped making you any sort of money in 2014, right? Like, if you're going to screw over a section of your work-force to save some money, maybe go for a portion that doesn't make up 40-60% of your employees?

But seriously, I can semi-understand why they'd decide to do this from a business perspective. The current political and social climate is still in total disarray and it's easy to get duped into believing a loud minority will give you your money if all you do is take a quick peak at the trending tag on Twitter to gauge how the general public will respond to you doing something.

To bad they didn't realize the people who spend 95% of their time complaining on Twitter don't have jobs, and therefore don't have any money, and therefore can't buy their product.
 
If anyone's wondering why GIMP is taking so long to release any significant updates, let me introduce GTK3. It's GTK2 but worse and now everything is a webbrowser.

They started trying to adopt it circa the early 2010s and it took so fucking long they had to shit out an intermediary update a few years back to stop people saying the project was dead.
 
If anyone's wondering why GIMP is taking so long to release any significant updates, let me introduce GTK3. It's GTK2 but worse and now everything is a webbrowser.

They started trying to adopt it circa the early 2010s and it took so fucking long they had to shit out an intermediary update a few years back to stop people saying the project was dead.

I really need to stop using GIMP

But my autism rejects all change in my environment. It's quite the conundrum.
 
Lol literally who uses GNOME 3? Just use Cinnamon or mate like a regular person.

I used to use gnome a lot, mainly because KDE4 was a piece of shit and KDE5/Plasma is bloated and the rest of the DMs looked awful. To be honest Cinnamon feels a bit rough still, I'm going to use Budgie instead it feels much better and quite fast.

One day we might have our wobberly windows back.
 
How long will it take until this shit starts ejaculating all over the Linux ecosystem? I love Linux, but this shit is becoming increasingly common.

It basically has. A large part of the ecosystem and Linux itself is only maintained by large corporations, and these CoCs pretty much exclude any entity that isn't a massive faceless corporation from contributing.
On one hand, it's nice Linux is actually maturing and becoming a decent product. But it's basically removed it from hacker's hands. Fortunately there's a huge rise in more independent operating systems like Haiku, Redox, SerenityOS etc.
 
Sad thing about the alternative operating systems is how poor the hardware support is. These faceless corporations are giving Linux a big boost there. Even the bigger ones like the *BSDs are pretty behind even with AMD64 related hardware and if they support the hardware, they often don't do it in the most optimal way, which leads to performance losses, odd bugs, or raised power consumption. Hardware has pretty much the same problem as modern software though, it became cruft-y and overtly complicated.
 
As much as I love racist jokes and slurs I'm fine with them censoring it on their platform since its mainly for discussing tech shit assuming it's evenly applied, but why push this anti-white animosity? Powerlevel: Their inherent racism and bullshit blanket opinion on white people really fucking ticks me off. My honkey ass came to the US as an immigrant and I still had to go through a ton of shit despite being white. Where the fuck is my priviledge you jizz smoking Linux fucks?
 
It basically has. A large part of the ecosystem and Linux itself is only maintained by large corporations, and these CoCs pretty much exclude any entity that isn't a massive faceless corporation from contributing.
On one hand, it's nice Linux is actually maturing and becoming a decent product. But it's basically removed it from hacker's hands. Fortunately there's a huge rise in more independent operating systems like Haiku, Redox, SerenityOS etc.
Probably a naive question, but since Linux is open source, can't people just agree on developing their own versions of Linux and branching off from the corporations?
 
Probably a naive question, but since Linux is open source, can't people just agree on developing their own versions of Linux and branching off from the corporations?

I mean people sort of do, like XenMod. There's nothing really wrong with Linux as it is on a technical level, actually it's doing better than ever, there isn't a real need to fork it besides minor optimizations like XenMod or if you're in an Adeptus Mechanicus-esque software cult in the case of Linux-libre.

I do find it strange that there's less forks of Linux than there are FreeBSD. OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD hard forked FreeBSD and made it their own unique kernel. I think it's more of a matter of a BSD being a whole OS (minus display server) so when you fork it, you control the ecosystem. Linux doesn't control it's ecosystem, it's ecosystem is a massive, fractured, hard-coded unmanageable mess, and I imagine breaking anything significant in the kernel will break a lot of the ecosystem. You can't even use Systemd without glibc. Not even for a good reason, like Systemd just uses some specific part of it for hardware temperature or some shit, not even anything fancy to patch out. But it's an example of how Linux's ecosystem is a stack of cards and one change breaks everything.

This is a complaint many people have and it's actually one of the driving forces behind SerenityOS (not a big reason it exists, but Kling often says how much he appreciates the level of control has has from the kernel to the desktop and how he can make them all work in perfect synchronization with each other, like letting the kernel steal memory from something it isn't using)
 
No I will continue using GNOME because it came installed by default and I am too lazy to do any of that. I will continue to use it until there is a good reason for me not to. Linux gatekeeping and elitism is so fucking annoying.

Nobody said you had to. I was replying to those that were frustrated by this development, they would consider that "good reason" to not use it.

Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian, and has multiple versions that do not use GNOME that are just as effortless to install.

If you have joined a forum to laugh at lolcows I don't really think it's elitist gatekeeping to suggest joining other forums that have helpful communities regarding the operating system you use.
 
systemd is a hilarious rube goldberg machine under the surface and probably the best recent example of everything-and-the-kitchen-sink feature creep I could name. It's also designed the way you can't easily just take a part from it on purpose, and you can claim to the contrary all you like. RedHat wants it this way. RedHat basically wants to consolidate the Linux landscape into a Windows clone with the same opportunities to make money through contracts like the original Windows has, only that RedHat is arguably going at it with a more woke slant, which I honestly think is more a way to control developers than a real ideology. Making money is the universal goal.

The problem with most alternative operating systems is that they want to be an alternative for Norm Normieson to make his spreadsheets in the office on. This will never happen and it is a waste of time to plan it that way, same with far reaching hardware support which also is not going to happen. I don't really understand why there's no interest in explicity targeting some older but still available ARM-SoC that's well supported by linux and has available datasheets and not much else in the beginning, there are a few that are extremely well documented and have code added to the mainline kernel by the SoC makers themselves. That way you'd get at least some results beyond "runs in a VM". All these hobby operating systems dream of big market shares and want to be a viable choice for the average users who doesn't know computers and not even Linux manages to be that.
 
I really don't understand the systemd hate other than "how dare you make my OS usable" or being a meme made up by trannies who are overly obsessed with the ancient unix concept that other people blindly follow.
UNIX is dead, long dead, Linux and systemd are dominating because they aren't Unix, it's a unique OS with it's own API layer and systemd takes full advantage of it to offer a robust service management experience. And developers are more than happy to make use of systemd because it actually makes life easier for everyone who isn't some autist arch user watching lain in his terminal.
 
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